aujeff11 6,243 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, bigbird said: He was doing exactly what his bosses were telling him to do. I don't get why that's so hard to understand. I certainly don't understand why you keep trying to figure out a way to make ADAG look as if he was the incompetent party in this whole mess. You do realize that 24 didn’t post the quote that you quoted right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,063 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, bigbird said: He was doing exactly what his bosses were telling him to do. I don't get why that's so hard to understand. I certainly don't understand why you keep trying to figure out a way to make ADAG look as if he was the incompetent party in this whole mess. Kessler posted the comments above, not me, but I agree with Kessler. Who in the Auburn family got these letters? Charismatic leaders don’t sit back and do exactly with their boss tells them, they step up, and make decisions. Also, when he’s now made three different public statements with his support of Gus, I guess he’s lying, because in reality, he wanted to fire Gus but he wasn’t allowed? Can’t have it both ways, charismatic leader that won’t be micromanaged, that-cuts people off at the knees then cleans up the blood; at the same time a shy lamb that does exactly what he’s told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,063 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, aujeff11 said: You do realize that 24 didn’t post the quote that you quoted right? Correct it wasn’t me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I like everything I’ve seen and heard from and about AG. But when it comes to Malzahn and this much money, he is not writing the check. Whoever has that capital has the power. Greene is a figure head only. But I will say I am so glad Jacobs is gone. Not that I didn’t like him or his leadership. But the constant moaning about him on here was exhausting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auskip07 930 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 The only thing i heard about Greene was that he was fantastic at fundraising. Now if for one minute you think he will bite the hand that feeds and tell those with the money to shove off you have to be joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 ADAG is a versatile fella. “Will cut you at your knees and make you clean up the blood” on Monday. Tuesday: drinking hipster beer with Golf Wednesday: Plays fortnite all night Thursday: “Yes sir. No sir. How many lumps of sugar, sir.” Friday: Wears affliction shirts Saturdays: Banquets and balls appearances all day. Has expensive alcohol and doesnt care if that’s your woman or not. Sundays: he’s not yet immortal so still PJ’s, Netflix, and hangovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,368 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, aujeff11 said: You do realize that 24 didn’t post the quote that you quoted right? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Just now, bigbird said: Yes lol Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,368 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 37 minutes ago, AU-24 said: Charismatic leaders don’t sit back and do exactly with their boss tells them, they step up, and make decisions. That is one if the most ridiculous things I've read here in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SumterAubie 3,031 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 40 minutes ago, AU-24 said: Charismatic leaders don’t sit back and do exactly with their boss tells them, they step up, and make decisions. 19 minutes ago, bigbird said: That is one if the most ridiculous things I've read here in a long time. And get fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aucanucktiger 1,789 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I think Allen is learning that Auburn gets the short end of the media stick in this state if not region. He's seen some real guess work and hatchet job articles about a dozen events surrounding AU football the last month by so called journalists but we've received that since Namath was wearing panty hose. Many but not all on this board have been fairly hysterical since LSU game and in fact media actually printed some of the more goober blather posted here. Allen's right, if it's speculation & rumor it doesn't serve us to repeat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,063 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, SumterAubie said: And get fired. Yes, charismatic leaders get fired all the time, my bad. They also are not truthful in public when they claim to support the head football coach, when behind the scenes their really trying to get him fired, only to be told they can’t. Makes perfect sense to me. Don’t know why I didn’t see it sooner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,063 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 38 minutes ago, bigbird said: That is one if the most ridiculous things I've read here in a long time. True, makes no sense at all. I notice you ignored the part where you posted I wrote something that Keesler wrote. You also ignored the rest of my quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aucater 150 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, aucanucktiger said: by so called journalists I so agree with that description. Sabin changed the narrative when he came to tuscalosers, in 07 he called all the journalist in one at a time and told them how he wanted the mighty tide portrayed in the media and that's a fact Jack. I heard from a good friend of one that told him he hadn't been talked to that way since he was in elementary school. Didn't make any difference he hasn't called him out on anything since them, in other words you either tow the terd line or your access is nil. All of that was to swing the perception and support to the dark side. They subsequently went out and "got" the best player's that he asked for and the rest is history. Not sure how much '"getting" they have to do now but if needed they are the best around, no trails. They have the NFL pipe line going and that's as good a recruiting tool as it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,096 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, fredst said: Post a link or some kind of confirmation or this is just rumor. suck up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToomersStreet 795 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 7 hours ago, WDEDothan1976 said: Allen Greene is doing a great job at Athletic Director. War Eagle!!!!! Allen Greene is to Athletic Directors as Offensive Coordinators are to a Gus Malzahn Offense, micromaneged and not allowed to do their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,368 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, AU-24 said: Don’t know why I didn’t see it sooner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,096 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 51 minutes ago, bigbird said: Yes Liar liar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,368 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Just now, augolf1716 said: Liar liar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,096 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, SumterAubie said: And get fired. yep happen to me a few times in my charismatic career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,096 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, bigbird said: maybe so maybe no.......................but I can get from your wife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredst 9,064 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, bigbird said: There isnt two ways. ADAG had nothing to do with Gus' extension or the guarantee. Again, when the amount of money is at the level it is, the AD has no real say in a decision. He can only make a recommendation, which he did. The president and the BoT are the only ones that can make financial decisions with that amount. Therefore, since he wasn't involved in the choice to extend his contract or the negotiations and since he is not the administrator of financial decisions involving that amount of money, he sat out. That's not being micromanaged. That's having a scope of work and not interfering in other's messes. I think he was very smart to not (publicly at least) insinuate himself into the mess not of his making, even if it involved the highest profile employee in the athletic department. Maybe I’m naive but I think it showed a degree of political savvy of which Jethro wasn’t capable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburnfan91 1,407 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, bigbird said: He was doing exactly what his bosses were telling him to do. I don't get why that's so hard to understand. I certainly don't understand why you keep trying to figure out a way to make ADAG look as if he was the incompetent party in this whole mess. So next year if(more likely when) Gus looks like he'll get fired, AG won't have anything to do with it correct? It's still going to be Leath and Harbert who make the decision next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredst 9,064 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 32 minutes ago, augolf1716 said: suck up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnphan 6,050 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 34 minutes ago, AU-24 said: Yes, charismatic leaders get fired all the time, my bad. They also are not truthful in public when they claim to support the head football coach, when behind the scenes their really trying to get him fired, only to be told they can’t. Makes perfect sense to me. Don’t know why I didn’t see it sooner? The vast majority here have wondered the same thing! 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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