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27 minutes ago, GiveEmElle said:

Trump is a racist and he defended racists. Yeah there were some good white people there. Like Heather Heyer, the girl who was murdered by a white supremacist. Unless your a pigeon or a racist why in the heck is the removal of a confederate statue offensive enough to protest? 

You view White Supremacy and Antifa the same. I don’t. One is a group of Nazi’s the other punches Nazi’s. 

I’m assuming you are referring to a video that I posted that you harp on about everytime we dialogue, one that honestly I don’t recall. But I can show you other videos of police brutality to people of color. I’m not sure how many times I have to say this before you understand but police brutality is real. That doesn’t mean I hate cops or think they are all bad. 

Yes in our system HRC didn’t win. That’s the second time in my voting lifetime that a democrat has won the popular vote yet been denied the presidency. Twice. That sucks. Perceptions of her transgressions are based on lies not truth and it’s sad that America believed the worst about the best and the best about the worst. 

Ugh! Cowboys? Is everyone on that bandwagon? I’m a Panther fan myself. 

Because individuals see history in statues and not just racism. I'm all for tearing down statues as long as we do it equally. So let's start ripping down the Founding Fathers, Buffalo Soldiers, Grant, Sherman, Custer. All oppressors and even some attempted genocide in there.

Antifa attacks individuals and makes threats also. See their Portland actions and their illegal roadblock (racial slurs, violent threats, physical threats, attacking property...same BS as others). Not work safe:

 

I was actually referring to the videos of the Sacramento shooting. The one where the guy was shot with a phone in his backyard that you mentioned. Stephon Clark right? And I told you I've known police brutality was real since the days of ICE T's Cop Killer (92 or 93 was it) protest song by his Thrash band Body Count. Course he realized cops mess with anyone that deviates from the norm. A song which Tipper Gore fought very hard to get banned despite the First Amendment interestingly enough.

For you listening pleasure lyrics included.... very not work safe:

And let's not forget agenda's. Chicago had a big protest and activist got riots going over this shooting of an unarmed black man that did nothing but comply with police:

I'm not sure how we got from America won't a Democrat for President unless its a white male due to racism to Hillary won the vote but the system denied her.

And yes the Cowboys. I grew up in Texas... I lived in Dallas.... only team I have ever rooted for going back to the days of Staubach. No bandwagon here.

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9 hours ago, johnnyAU said:

Of course it was just perceptions that cost HRC the election.

 

9 hours ago, johnnyAU said:

She was also up against racism and sexism.

I was actually referring to this delusional line of thinking. You must have bought her book about the reasons she thinks she lost, and all the excuse therein.  As far as Trump's actions go, we'll find out the truth eventually. I'm sure HRC is squeaky clean, as she is in your feeble mind, and had nothing to do with wiping email servers or funding a fake dossier on her opponent.  ;)

It wasn't perception. HRC is toxic, unethical and as self-absorbed/narcissistic as Trump.  It isn't racism, sexism, misogyny, etc.... It's her. 

I don't care for Warren's politics or Harris' behavior during the circus that was the Kavanaugh/Ford hearings, but I imagine both would fare pretty well in polling and probably better than Booker or Bloomberg. They don't have the Clinton baggage or personality issues. 

Now go and watch some videos of Antifa in action. Robin Hood and his band of merry men they aren't. 

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8 hours ago, Texan4Auburn said:

And yes the Cowboys. I grew up in Texas... I lived in Dallas.... only team I have ever rooted for going back to the days of Staubach.

I can't stand Dallas now, but I certainly pretended to be Staubach back in the day as a kid. In the 70's you were either Steelers or Cowboys...and nobody in our area liked the Steelers. 

 

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11 hours ago, GiveEmElle said:

Again stop pulling partial statements just to get likes from cult Trump. 

Well, I have to do something to offset all of the ICHY slap-faces. 

just a fact that your feeble minded statements are easy prey.

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1 hour ago, SaltyTiger said:

 your feeble minded statements are easy prey.

And that is a great example of how your posts are devoid of argument "brother" Salty.

Ad hominem insults is about all you can manage.  It's sad.

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1 hour ago, homersapien said:

Ad hominem insults is about all you can manage.  It's sad.

Yes, it was uncharacteristic of me to use "feeble minded". I do publicly apologize to Elle. Thank you Homer.  

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On 1/4/2019 at 4:32 PM, GiveEmElle said:

Are you unable to support your claim? Name the mischaracterizations I’ve made. 

😂

Everyone on this forum knows that you mischaracterize Republicans. Homer may have your back though. 

Quit acting "clueless." 

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55 minutes ago, NolaAuTiger said:

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Everyone on this forum knows that you mischaracterize Republicans. Homer may have your back though. 

Quit acting "clueless." 

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On 1/5/2019 at 10:13 PM, homersapien said:

Says the dude who listens to Rush Limbaugh.  :lmao:

Coming from the self proclaimed intelligent guy that post Vox crap day in and day out.  

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21 hours ago, SaltyTiger said:

Coming from the self proclaimed intelligent guy that post Vox crap day in and day out.  

Just trying to help you out Brother Salty.  You said you got all your news from Fox and this forum. 

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On 1/6/2019 at 10:38 PM, Texan4Auburn said:

Because individuals see history in statues and not just racism. I'm all for tearing down statues as long as we do it equally. So let's start ripping down the Founding Fathers, Buffalo Soldiers, Grant, Sherman, Custer. All oppressors and even some attempted genocide in there.

Antifa attacks individuals and makes threats also. See their Portland actions and their illegal roadblock (racial slurs, violent threats, physical threats, attacking property...same BS as others). Not work safe:

 

I was actually referring to the videos of the Sacramento shooting. The one where the guy was shot with a phone in his backyard that you mentioned. Stephon Clark right? And I told you I've known police brutality was real since the days of ICE T's Cop Killer (92 or 93 was it) protest song by his Thrash band Body Count. Course he realized cops mess with anyone that deviates from the norm. A song which Tipper Gore fought very hard to get banned despite the First Amendment interestingly enough.

For you listening pleasure lyrics included.... very not work safe:

And let's not forget agenda's. Chicago had a big protest and activist got riots going over this shooting of an unarmed black man that did nothing but comply with police:

I'm not sure how we got from America won't a Democrat for President unless its a white male due to racism to Hillary won the vote but the system denied her.

And yes the Cowboys. I grew up in Texas... I lived in Dallas.... only team I have ever rooted for going back to the days of Staubach. No bandwagon here.

I really doubt people marching in the streets with tiki torches were concerned about the history of statues. I watched people around me complain about statues being taken down that they never knew existed until someone wanted them removed. In the south there is this sense of pride in the confederacy without historical knowledge. The opppsition to that is rooted in racism. 

Again, I’m aware Antifa exists but the comparison of them to White Supremacists is just weak. The right needed a bogey man so the picked Antifa. You need only to look at right wing posters here to see that it worked. 

Funny story, my brother and I were both teens at home when Cop Killer was released. My brother had the cassette tape and played it for me. Once my mother learned that such an atrocity existed, she confronted us and asked if we had it to which we both said “no.” I was so amused by my brother’s ability to lie with a straight face that my mother interpreted my facial expressions as me lying. I got a good chewing out while my brother calmly watched. 

I just don’t think that in the racial and sexist climate Trump has created that a  female or black male could win. That saddens me. But then again a historically large number of women won senate seats so my logic could be flawed. 

I always liked the Cowboys as a kid. I like the Panthers because of Cam and when it comes to the Super Bowl I pull for the team with the most AU players. 

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On 1/7/2019 at 1:31 PM, NolaAuTiger said:

😂

Everyone on this forum knows that you mischaracterize Republicans. Homer may have your back though. 

Quit acting "clueless." 

If everyone knows it, why can you not provide an example? 

As far as I’m concerned everything I’ve said about the GOP is fact. 

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14 hours ago, GiveEmElle said:

If everyone knows it, why can you not provide an example? 

As far as I’m concerned everything I’ve said about the GOP is fact. 

Elle, even you have to plainly admit that you (and I) buy into the hyperbole more than we need to. 
Hyperbole is just "political speak" for lying.

There is no truth in ever saying ALL or collectifying THEM. The range of political belief in a room of ten people would likely cover almost the entire spectrum of politics. Doing a "puke on them all" statement is just political speech malpractice. 

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15 hours ago, GiveEmElle said:

If everyone knows it, why can you not provide an example? 

As far as I’m concerned everything I’ve said about the GOP is fact. 

Why do I need to provide an example? You have saturated "the record" for all who seek to remedy any skepticism stemming from my claim. Who, besides you (and probably Homer), seriously doubts the truth of my assertion? Further, if I was blatantly in the wrong, the sharks would have already attacked. 

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Republicans - as a party - have earned the right to be subjected to such generalized statements:
 

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A total of 84 percent of Republicans — 64 percent of whom strongly approve and 20 percent who somewhat approve — support Trump's refusal to accept a funding bill that does not include more than $5 billion for enhancing security operations at the U.S.-Mexico border.

Challenging Ellie for "absolutism" on characterizing Republicans is just hypocritical weaseling.  Making generalized statements about "liberals" or Democrats ("Dems") is the bread and butter of the people who are complaining.

Of course not ALL Republicans support him - he has a lot of opposition coming from a relatively few principled Republicans.  That doesn't change the facts of what Elle said, if anything it supports them.

 

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20 hours ago, homersapien said:

Challenging Ellie for "absolutism" on characterizing Republicans is just hypocritical weaseling.  Making generalized statements about "liberals" or Democrats ("Dems") is the bread and butter of the people who are complaining.

The only thing wrong with the statement was not adding you as the prime example. The two of you are completely obsessed with everything Trump have convinced yourselves  that everything you've read in predominantly biased media sources applies to the majority of the opposing party.  That's blind ideology in a nutshell. 

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1 hour ago, johnnyAU said:

The only thing wrong with the statement was not adding you as the prime example. The two of you are completely obsessed with everything Trump have convinced yourselves  that everything you've read in predominantly biased media sources applies to the majority of the opposing party.  That's blind ideology in a nutshell. 

Sometimes I feel as if I've been transported to Germany in 1933.  I have no compunctions about speaking up about Trump.

It doesn't take immersing yourself in "biased" media to recognize Trump for what he is. You are the one who is blind to reality.

As far as the parties.  Like I said,  there some Republicans who see Trump for what he is.  Some of them continue to speak out.  But most of them simply remain silent.  And if one believes the polls, the majority of Republicans support Trump.  That's on them.

Trump has become the Republican Party,  like it or not.

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Funny you should bring up 1930s Germany, as it is tied more closely to socialism and the desire to mandate/controll free speech.  ;)

You don't have to listen to one side of media to see how the media is feasting on anything and everything Trump related. However, when nigh 100% of one's posts are Trump comments, Trump articles, or responding to Trump comments, then one would probably be considered obsessed with Trump.

There are many in the Republican party who see and have seen Trump for who he is, and many were/are Never-Trumpers from the get go. The majority of Republicans support a Republican POTUS and that is what is reflected in the polls. 

He has and never will BECOME the Republican party, but that is the narrative you wish to believe, like it or not.

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52 minutes ago, johnnyAU said:

Funny you should bring up 1930s Germany, as it is tied more closely to socialism and the desire to mandate/controll free speech.  ;)

You don't have to listen to one side of media to see how the media is feasting on anything and everything Trump related. However, when nigh 100% of one's posts are Trump comments, Trump articles, or responding to Trump comments, then one would probably be considered obsessed with Trump.

There are many in the Republican party who see and have seen Trump for who he is, and many were/are Never-Trumpers from the get go. The majority of Republicans support a Republican POTUS and that is what is reflected in the polls. 

He has and never will BECOME the Republican party, but that is the narrative you wish to believe, like it or not.

Actually, 1930's Germany marks the rise of the Nazi party along with the extreme nationalism and cult of personality that it entailed.  Trump reflects that sort of authoritarian cult of personality.  It's a classic case of the emperor with no clothes.

While I would like to believe what you are saying about the Republican party, the polls speak for themselves.  If you are right, there certainly aren't many in the party who are willing to publicly oppose Trump for fear of being "primary-ed" out of office. (See Mark Sanford in South Carolina.)   So it's obvious that Trump supporters are controlling the party if they don't completely own it.

The Republican party will likely survive Trump and will rejuvenate itself at some point, but with the nation's evolving demographics and a growing awareness of excessive capitalism it will be an interesting process to watch. 

And don't tell me what I am "obsessed" about.  This is the political forum. :-\ 

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On 1/9/2019 at 8:11 AM, DKW 86 said:

Elle, even you have to plainly admit that you (and I) buy into the hyperbole more than we need to. 
Hyperbole is just "political speak" for lying.

There is no truth in ever saying ALL or collectifying THEM. The range of political belief in a room of ten people would likely cover almost the entire spectrum of politics. Doing a "puke on them all" statement is just political speech malpractice. 

I flat out disagree with you. I understand what hyperbole is and have made no hyperbolic statements on what the GOP stands for. Now that’s not to say that interpretations of what I  aren’t incorrectly comprehended. 

What it seems that some here misunderstand is that opposition to Trump isn’t merely political. He is uneducated, willfully ignorant, possess no empathy, has no concern for any other human other than himself, and lacks a basic understanding of governmental operations while claiming to know more than anyone else about drones, ISIS, campaign finance, etc. He is unfit for office and while you may read that as hyperbolic, it is soundly based on facts. But people these days don’t accept those either. 

 

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5 minutes ago, GiveEmElle said:

I flat out disagree with you. I understand what hyperbole is and have made no hyperbolic statements on what the GOP stands for. Now that’s not to say that interpretations of what I (say) aren’t incorrectly comprehended. 

What it seems that some here misunderstand is that opposition to Trump isn’t merely political. He is uneducated, willfully ignorant, possess no empathy, has no concern for any other human other than himself, and lacks a basic understanding of governmental operations while claiming to know more than anyone else about drones, ISIS, campaign finance, etc. He is unfit for office and while you may read that as hyperbolic, it is soundly based on facts. But people these days don’t accept those either. 

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All that is correct. He is all of those things and has been all of those things for 30+ years. He is the complete package fail. 

But hyperbole is still hyperbole. The party mantra on All Republicans are racists, etc. is exactly that, hyperbole. Trump is many things, but over the decades, as bad as he has been, has supported black businesses and black political endeavors. He has supported Rainbow, Push, NAN, etc. the blanket shotgun statement that he is a racist is bunk, hyperbole. Get the details right. Populist? Absolutely! Hyperbolic himself? Absolutely! Crazy? YES! But racist? If i had the time, there is ample evidence over 30 years that that is just bull****. That is hyperbole.

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On 1/9/2019 at 10:07 AM, NolaAuTiger said:

Why do I need to provide an example? You have saturated "the record" for all who seek to remedy any skepticism stemming from my claim. Who, besides you (and probably Homer), seriously doubts the truth of my assertion? Further, if I was blatantly in the wrong, the sharks would have already attacked. 

Why do you need to provide an example? Well this is just a smack talk forum so you really don’t but I find it amusing you make such a strong assertion about me yet can provide no example to back up said assertion. What specific instance were you thinking about when you plunked out that claim on your keyboard? Or was it just following the “Mexico will pay for it” strategy that is so popular with the right wing these days?

 

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