homersapien 11,270 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 I think so. Trump is toast. It's hard for me to imagine another two years of this administration. I witnessed Nixon's demise. This is something far worse - corruption PLUS gross incompetence. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/shields-and-gerson-on-mattis-resignation-congressional-stalemate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,270 Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/21/trump-republicans-congress-support-1074186 Trump sees dangerous cracks in Hill GOP support A series of recent events is alienating congressional allies Trump would need in an impeachment fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,365 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,058 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,270 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 hour ago, augolf1716 said: Whoops! Wrong forum, Moderator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,058 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, homersapien said: Whoops! Wrong forum, Moderator. Beginning of the end aka Final Countdown......get it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,270 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 19 minutes ago, augolf1716 said: Beginning of the end aka Final Countdown......get it!!! No offense (I enjoy your musical interludes), but my point is that this may really be the beginning of the end. It's a serious proposition that merits a serious response, which I thought was the purpose of this particular sub-forum. Based on recent events, I think that Trump has fnally reached the point of no return regarding confidence. If we have a military - or some other - crisis I don't think Trump has the necessary respect nationally or globally - not to mention competence - to lead us through it. I doubt he makes it to 2020, much less run again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 12 hours ago, augolf1716 said: Beginning of the end aka Final Countdown......get it!!! But that song is about aliens invading....oh ya know what....totally makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 12 hours ago, homersapien said: No offense (I enjoy your musical interludes), but my point is that this may really be the beginning of the end. It's a serious proposition that merits a serious response, which I thought was the purpose of this particular sub-forum. Based on recent events, I think that Trump has fnally reached the point of no return regarding confidence. If we have a military - or some other - crisis I don't think Trump has the necessary respect nationally or globally - not to mention competence - to lead us through it. I doubt he makes it to 2020, much less run again. It's all a question of how hard Senate Republicans are willing to go to the mat for him. Some are very displeased about Matt is, but McConnell is exceptional at seeing the long game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,058 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Brad_ATX said: But that song is about aliens invading....oh ya know what....totally makes sense. Well actually their headed to Venus and may not come back...... close enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,270 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Brad_ATX said: It's all a question of how hard Senate Republicans are willing to go to the mat for him. Some are very displeased about Matt is, but McConnell is exceptional at seeing the long game. McConnell may be underestimating the American people. I see a real risk for the GOP in clinging to Trump. If one gives credence to the pendulum effect in politics, the reaction to him - and the Republicans - will likely usher in a period of Democratic domination in national politics. Considering how the election fell out in 2016, it's hard for me to see how Trump could possibly win re-election. Impeachment or not, the next two years is going to be a train of revelations. And now that Trump has run off pretty much everyone willing to stand up to him, I figure the next two years will be even more chaotic than the last two. If that's what it takes then bring it on. One thing for sure, he's going to leave a mess for the next president to clean up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,292 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 4 hours ago, homersapien said: ...may be underestimating the American people. That hasn't happened in about 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,270 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 hours ago, bigbird said: That hasn't happened in about 2 years Meaning...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,523 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Democrats act like they are insulated from the very same thing Trump is accused of (and I believe guilty of). The systemic corruption that has pulsed through the viens of American politics over the last half century plus is hard to take sometimes. I’m ready for Pence to finish this one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,292 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, homersapien said: Meaning...? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,972 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, autigeremt said: Democrats act like they are insulated from the very same thing Trump is accused of (and I believe guilty of). The systemic corruption that has pulsed through the viens of American politics over the last half century plus is hard to take sometimes. I’m ready for Pence to finish this one out. This is how you take some of the sting out of having to put up with trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,270 Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 2 hours ago, bigbird said: Seriously? Yes, I don't get your point. Please explain. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,270 Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 Just another example of the ongoing disfunction: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/12/23/treasury-secretary-makes-unusual-pre-christmas-call-top-bank-ceos-amid-market-mayhem/?utm_term=.2d88258c1749 Treasury secretary startles Wall Street with unusual pre-Christmas calls to top bank CEOs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,972 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 10 hours ago, augolf1716 said: Well actually their headed to Venus and may not come back...... close enough. Should have been Uranus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,292 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 10 hours ago, homersapien said: Yes, I don't get your point. Please explain. Thanks. If you don't understand it, then nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NolaAuTiger 3,294 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 15 hours ago, homersapien said: Meaning...? ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,270 Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 6 hours ago, bigbird said: If you don't understand it, then nevermind. Well, maybe Nola will explain it, since he thought it was funny (which I don't get either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,270 Posted December 24, 2018 Author Share Posted December 24, 2018 https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/12/whats-behind-steve-mnuchins-press-release/578968/ What Was Steve Mnuchin Thinking? Three Possibilities The Treasury secretary put out an alarming—and confusing—press release on Sunday evening. ..........................Whatever Mnuchin was trying to do, he did not succeed in it, instead stoking market fears and sowing confusion. Perhaps the clearest takeaway is that Mnuchin and Trump’s Treasury lacks the expertise to communicate clearly and forcefully with the markets—no surprise, given how few experienced financial operatives Trump has hired and how many experienced non-political civil servants have fled Treasury during this administration. If they’re communicating this poorly in the absence of a crisis, just imagine how disastrously they might perform in the presence of one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 11 hours ago, bigbird said: If you don't understand it, then nevermind. homie is at the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,058 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 26 minutes ago, Proud Tiger said: homie is at the end No the beginning.............................haven't you heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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