AU64 10,122 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 We have a Thursday night game......so who starts? Even on Thursday TB has started most of the time I think....stick with the plan? See that game is on ESPNU tonight....6:30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 TB is used to Friday nights so I expect him to stay there. Pitchers usually get in a rhythm of what day they pitch and it can mess with 'em to switch days. IIRC Butch moved Casey Mize up a day and it was not a good thing. But you never know. I look for Tanner to have a good night on the mound since his last outing was not his best stuff. He will want redemption. I wonder if Jack Owen is ready to start or if he'll be used as a middle reliever. Very nervous about this series....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,565 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Do pitchers get used to starting on a specific day, or get used to starting the first game, second game etc. or does it matter? I'd hope they'd be ready to give their best effort whenever the manager tells them to pick up their glove and get loose. I was having a good discussion with my local MD earlier this week. He's a former baseball pitcher and big Auburn fan. We both think Butch babies his pitchers too much. I suppose "our manager takes care of his pitcher's arms" is a good selling point to recruits. I'd like to see the best pitchers throw more, maybe there wouldn't be so much arm trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Tigerbelle said: TB is used to Friday nights so I expect him to stay there. Pitchers usually get in a rhythm of what day they pitch and it can mess with 'em to switch days. IIRC Butch moved Casey Mize up a day and it was not a good thing. But you never know. I look for Tanner to have a good night on the mound since his last outing was not his best stuff. He will want redemption. I wonder if Jack Owen is ready to start or if he'll be used as a middle reliever. Very nervous about this series....... Yep..... ..this would be a tough game for either Fuller or Owen to take.. but JMO, I doubt any of the others are up to the task....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomstick 1,315 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Starting rotation for the weekend: Thu: Tanner Burns Fri: Richard Fitts Sat: Brooks Fuller Huge opportunity for us this weekend. The offense might have found something at the end of the OM game and the midweek game. Hopefully we can give Tanner some run support tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, Mikey said: Do pitchers get used to starting on a specific day, or get used to starting the first game, second game etc. or does it matter? I'd hope they'd be ready to give their best effort whenever the manager tells them to pick up their glove and get loose. I was having a good discussion with my local MD earlier this week. He's a former baseball pitcher and big Auburn fan. We both think Butch babies his pitchers too much. I suppose "our manager takes care of his pitcher's arms" is a good selling point to recruits. I'd like to see the best pitchers throw more, maybe there wouldn't be so much arm trouble. For a coach known for taking care of his pitchers, seems that we have an unusual amount of pitcher arm problems. Could be a coincidence or just bad luck....but pitching seems to be about the only athletic endeavor where you practice and/or work out less in order to do more later on. ….like a marathon runner only practicing with 10 K workouts.... I do note however that CBT has moved away from the 90-100 pitch count rule lately and giving his pitchers more time on the mound if they are feeling good. Old but interesting piece.....the less the pitchers pitch, the more they seem to have arm problems? https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1622573-do-innings-limits-pitch-counts-actually-prevent-serious-injuries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomstick 1,315 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 31 minutes ago, Mikey said: Do pitchers get used to starting on a specific day, or get used to starting the first game, second game etc. or does it matter? I'd hope they'd be ready to give their best effort whenever the manager tells them to pick up their glove and get loose. I was having a good discussion with my local MD earlier this week. He's a former baseball pitcher and big Auburn fan. We both think Butch babies his pitchers too much. I suppose "our manager takes care of his pitcher's arms" is a good selling point to recruits. I'd like to see the best pitchers throw more, maybe there wouldn't be so much arm trouble. A lot of it has to do with routine. When they throw bullpens, how they recover, etc. so you set your routines up and try not to deviate from them to allow your pitchers to stay in those routines, throw the same bullpens at the same times every week, have the same rest and recovery schedules. I know Butch said that he and Coach Smith asked Tanner if he wanted to move to Thursday last week, and Tanner wanted to stay on Friday. As far as Butch protecting arms, it’s a huge recruiting pitch. Like you, I do sometimes wonder if we’re a little soft on arms, but I’m not sure we have any more arm injuries than anyone else. Our overly cautious approach might just make it more visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomstick 1,315 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 39 minutes ago, AU64 said: For a coach known for taking care of his pitchers, seems that we have an unusual amount of pitcher arm problems. Could be a coincidence or just bad luck....but pitching seems to be about the only athletic endeavor where you practice and/or work out less in order to do more later on. ….like a marathon runner only practicing with 10 K workouts.... I do note however that CBT has moved away from the 90-100 pitch count rule lately and giving his pitchers more time on the mound if they are feeling good. Old but interesting piece.....the less the pitchers pitch, the more they seem to have arm problems? https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1622573-do-innings-limits-pitch-counts-actually-prevent-serious-injuries Under Butch, I can only think of a handful of arm issues since he’s been here. Miss in 2017, Mitchell last year, Daniel this year (which actually started over the summer at the Cape), Owen this year. Am I missing some that I don’t remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 1 minute ago, boomstick said: Under Butch, I can only think of a handful of arm issues since he’s been here. Miss in 2017, Mitchell last year, Daniel this year (which actually started over the summer at the Cape). Am I missing some that I don’t remember? Well Owen it seems, Mize for a while....but he's been here 3 seasons and I have no idea what went on at MSU....maybe nothing? Just seems that starters have had some issues. But I also worry /wonder about what goes on in the summers....and even before the guys got to Auburn. Not blaming CBT but just wondering if the "pampering" of pitchers really helps or makes a difference.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomstick 1,315 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, AU64 said: Well Owen it seems, Mize for a while....but he's been here 3 seasons and I have no idea what went on at MSU....maybe nothing? Just seems that starters have had some issues. But I also worry /wonder about what goes on in the summers....and even before the guys got to Auburn. Not blaming CBT but just wondering if the "pampering" of pitchers really helps or makes a difference.. Yeah, don’t know how I forgot Owen. I think arm injuries are somewhat prevalent with every team. Just following college baseball podcasts and twitter accounts, there have been 3-4 pitching injuries reported this week. And I would think a lot more of those are because of overwork than being pampered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, boomstick said: Yeah, don’t know how I forgot Owen. I think arm injuries are somewhat prevalent with every team. Just following college baseball podcasts and twitter accounts, there have been 3-4 pitching injuries reported this week. And I would think a lot more of those are because of overwork than being pampered. Guess the issue might be "overwork" compared to what they are prepared to do by virtue of their workout routines. And of course, lots of speculation that the modern pitches with emphasis on "action or movement" put more stress on the elbow and shoulder. The old guys threw fastballs with a standard curve and change-up. I"ve read that the splitter and variations are hazardous and maybe others too....the problem is you only learn the dangers after the damage is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 The damage is cumulative. Some of the problems with pitchers start in childhood, with poor mechanics and overuse in little league. It's very similar to how damage from concussions for football players often start while playing in Pop Warner. Butch can only control what happens once those kids are on his team, and from what I know about him, he takes very good care of his players and always has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, Tigerbelle said: he takes very good care of his players and always has. I don't doubt that his intent if such....but there are different views on how to best prepare pitching arms.....and keep them healthy. Hoping he is getting good advice on the subject. There is lots more to it than counting pitches...but you are right, problems can start early but I'm still in the school of thought that pitchers don't get prepared for long careers....or even for long ball games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowebb11 9,313 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, AU64 said: I don't doubt that his intent if such....but there are different views on how to best prepare pitching arms.....and keep them healthy. Hoping he is getting good advice on the subject. There is lots more to it than counting pitches...but you are right, problems can start early but I'm still in the school of thought that pitchers don't get prepared for long careers....or even for long ball games. I’m all for taking care of the arms, but I think we baby them mightily by not allowing them to work through tough patches. It’s celebrated now if a pitcher gives you 3-4 good innings. Then they give up a walk and and a single, and get pulled. It’s not unique to AU, just the way baseball coaches think these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomstick 1,315 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Starting lineup for tonight Ward LFBliss 2BJulien 3BDavis DHScheffler CWoley 1BHowell CFWilliams RFHolland SSBurns RHP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 Glad Burns is getting the start.....would be nice for AU to take game #1 …...the guys just need to give him some backing. ...hitting stats are surprisingly poor for AU this late in the season. Season long slump for several players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 56 minutes ago, AU64 said: I don't doubt that his intent if such....but there are different views on how to best prepare pitching arms.....and keep them healthy. Hoping he is getting good advice on the subject. There is lots more to it than counting pitches...but you are right, problems can start early but I'm still in the school of thought that pitchers don't get prepared for long careers....or even for long ball games. Auburn gets direction from medical specialists....orthos and sports medicine physicians......for all athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tigerbelle said: Auburn gets direction from medical specialists....orthos and sports medicine physicians......for all athletes. "direction"....maybe...but day to day the coaches do what they do....and that's what matters...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Vandy wearing their Mafia look tonight.......so ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 Vandy early hitters in the line-up are tough....and first guy lines a double to left centerfield wall.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbelle 5,299 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, AU64 said: "direction"....maybe...but day to day the coaches do what they do....and that's what matters...... Nope. Coaches like Butch care about the well being of their players. He isn't going to disregard medical advice and risk a young man's future. That would self-defeating anyway. Recruits would never consider playing for a coach who would do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 Burns into some early trouble but working to get out of trouble. ...fast ball picking up a few more mph... Boy that decision to make that throw to 2nd was really dangerous....but looks like he got the out....so two on and two down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 Really nice work by TB to get out of that trouble..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTiger2011 1,277 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Vandy homer and poor communication on an infield popup in the second. Auburn down 1-0. Vandy runner on 2nd, no out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 Ouch...2nd inning off to a bad start.....a no doubter homer and then a high ball apparently lost in the wind falls for a double. next to the mound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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