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Interesting read on class rankings, expenditures, & NFL draft picks

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I know we've discussed the importance of recruiting rankings and stars a lot in the past, but I found 3 fairly recent articles that break recruiting down and compare those results to a team's wins, how much a team spends on recruiting, and how many active NFL players a team produces.  Pretty interesting read if you click on the articles to go more in depth.  I just copied a few of relevant charts from each article.

WINS

SEC

School Win Total Avg. Recruiting Class Ranking (conference rank) Difference
Alabama 55 2.0 (1) 0
Georgia 42 4.0 (2) 0
LSU 36 7.3 (3) 0
Florida 33 14.5 (6) +2
Auburn 33 9.5 (4) -1
Mississippi State 32 24.3 (10) +4
Texas A&M 32 14.8 (7) 0
Kentucky 29 34.5 (12) +4
Tennessee 27 14.0 (5) -4
Ole Miss 26 21.3 (9) -1
South Carolina 25 21.0 (8) -3
Missouri 24 38.5 (13) +1
Vanderbilt 21 52.3 (14) +1
Arkansas 21 30.0 (11) -3

 

EXPENSES

Power Five Spending Ranking Among Schools Examined School Football Recruiting Expenses in FY18 2018 Recruiting Class Ranking 2019 Recruiting Class Ranking 4/5-Star Recruits in Last Two Classes
1 Georgia $2,626,622 1st 2nd 42 (30/12)
2 Alabama $2,344,057 5th 1st 41 (36/5)
3 Texas $1,823,307 3rd 3rd 36 (32/4)
4 Clemson $1,790,976 7th 10th 25 (19/6)
5 Texas A&M $1,710,101 17th 4th 29 (27/2)
6 Florida State $1,581,347 11th 19th 22 (22/0)
7 Michigan $1,397,784 22nd 8th 23 (21/2)
8 Penn State $1,369,428 6th 13th 33 (29/4)
9 LSU $1,287,344 15th 5th 27 (23/4)
10 Oklahoma $1,264,809 9th 6th 29 (25/4)
11 Nebraska $1,250,674 23rd 18th 13 (13/0)
12 Florida $1,155,802 14th 9th 30 (30/0)
13 Kansas $1,141,379 60th 68th 3 (3/0)
14 Auburn $1,081,836 12th 11th 29 (27/2)
15 Minnesota $1,081,075 38th 45th 3 (3/0)
16 Iowa State $1,079,430 55th 46th 3 (3/0)
17 Utah $1,052,271 33rd 42nd 6 (6/0)
18 Oregon $997,019 13th 7th 24 (23/1)
19 North Carolina $984,871 20th 32nd 11 (11/0)
20 Ohio State $944,354 2nd 14th 35 (29/6)

 

DRAFT PICKS

School 4/5-Star Recruits (2007-16) Avg. Recruiting Class Ranking (2007-16) Number of NFL Players on 53-Man Roster Active NFL Players/Blue-Chip Recruits
Alabama 180 2.8 56 31.1%
Ohio State 143 13.2 43 30.0%
LSU 150 6.4 35 23.3%
Florida 132 7.3 35 26.5%
Florida State 130 7.8 32 24.6%
Miami (FL) 88 16.2 32 36.3%
Oklahoma 109 12.7 31 28.4%
Georgia 127 7.8 30 23.6%
Texas A&M 86 19.3 28 32.5%
Clemson 93 16.9 27 29.0%
Auburn 117 10.8 26 22.2%
USC 139 5.7 25 17.9%
Notre Dame 129 10.8 25 19.3%
Tennessee 104 13.5 24 23.0%
South Carolina 73 20.6 24 32.8%
Michigan 110 15.4 23 20.9%
UCLA 98 24.1 23 23.4%
Texas 150 7.6 22 14.6%
Ole Miss 69 20.2 21 30.4%
Oregon 75 19.9 16 21.3%

NOTE: The number of 4/5-star recruits does not take into account transfers who left or joined a program.

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I figured UA probably spent more than Auburn but I didn't realize it was over twice as much. And that's just for the over the table stuff they are allowed to report. No telling what they really spend.

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1 hour ago, amsterjam said:

I figured UA probably spent more than Auburn but I didn't realize it was over twice as much. And that's just for the over the table stuff they are allowed to report. No telling what they really spend.

How do they spend twice as much on the same number of recruits? Especially, since they really don't have to recruit hard to get the players they want, or at least that's the narrative we hear. 

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The one that’s confusing me is Ohio state.... didn’t think they’d be that low on the spending but always top 5 in recruiting 

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The chart showing the percentage spent on football from the overall recruiting budget is eye opening also.

The financial numbers listed below are also from the 2018 fiscal year.

School Football Recruiting Spending Recruiting Spending For All Sports Percent Spent On Football
Alabama $2,344,057 $3,310,990 70.7%
Georgia $2,626,622 $3,990,422 65.8%
Clemson $1,790,976 $2,804,471 63.8%
Florida State $1,581,347 $2,557,066 61.8%
Texas $1,823,307 $3,199,072 56.9%
Texas A&M $1,710,101 $3,036,727 56.3%
Colorado $635,077 $1,144,052 55.5%
Utah $1,052,271 $1,964,161 53.5%
Boise State $414,229 $773,739 53.5%
Oregon $997,019 $1,878,901 53.0%
Iowa State $1,079,430 $2,038,311 52.9%
North Carolina $984,871 $1,883,458 52.2%
Auburn $1,081,836 $2,083,737 51.9%
Penn State $1,369,428 $2,708,778 50.5%
Oklahoma $1,264,809 $2,542,581 49.7%
Florida $1,155,802 $2,329,421 49.6%
Nebraska $1,250,674 $2,545,583 49.1%
Kansas $1,141,379 $2,326,971 49.0%
Minnesota $1,081,075 $2,215,207 48.8%
LSU $1,287,344 $2,661,602 48.3%
UCLA $764,620 $1,620,167 47.1%
Oregon State $674,239 $1,443,224 46.7%
Michigan $1,397,784 $3,011,982 46.4%
Cal $647,842 $1,397,437 46.3%
East Carolina $369,776 $805,605 45.9%
Michigan State $766,139 $1,689,263 45.3%
Georgia Tech $585,680 $1,313,034 44.6%
Rutgers $824,271 $1,881,103 43.8%
Cincinnati $374,630 $856,882 43.7%
Virginia $727,972 $1,740,460 41.8%
Ole Miss $704,836 $1,683,435 41.8%
Missouri $685,834 $1,657,753 41.3%
Maryland $539,299 $1,308,607 41.2%
Washington State $523,791 $1,269,423 41.2%
Washington $714,872 $1,740,611 41.0%
South Carolina $861,747 $2,128,667 40.4%
West Virginia $626,311 $1,546,908 40.4%
Oklahoma State $715,492 $1,817,717 39.3%
Louisville $724,742 $1,847,150 39.2%
Purdue $555,565 $1,459,650 38.0%
Kansas State $509,760 $1,391,023 36.6%
Arizona $545,968 $1,495,385 36.5%
Houston $251,975 $698,178 36.0%
Illinois $739,680 $2,069,031 35.7%
Iowa $608,755 $1,712,668 35.5%
Virginia Tech $563,744 $1,588,752 35.4%
Arizona State $531,807 $1,543,683 34.4%
Ohio State $944,354 $2,819,239 33.4%
Mississippi State $453,116 $1,353,555 33.4%
Indiana $692,972 $2,125,054 32.6%
NC State $548,062 $1,781,451 30.7%
Connecticut $432,480 $1,406,823 30.7%
Kentucky $791,863 $2,718,456 29.1%
Texas Tech $535,362 $1,833,803 29.1%
Wisconsin $350,695 $1,224,327 28.6%

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Also interesting IMO that Bama's top rated recruit for each of the last two years have both now entered the transfer portal. 🤔

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19 minutes ago, aucanucktiger said:

Also interesting IMO that Bama's top rated recruit for each of the last two years have both now entered the transfer portal. 🤔

The DL from New Jersey is a beast, but it looks like he’s wanting to get home.

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On 9/6/2019 at 8:21 PM, Sizzle said:

The one that’s confusing me is Ohio state.... didn’t think they’d be that low on the spending but always top 5 in recruiting 

I think that this chart only includes the above-board spending 😎

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I have been saying for a LONG time that we aren't as close, talent wise, as we like to think to teams like bama and uga. Bama has averaged something like five 5star recruits each class for the past four or five years, to our one 5start recruit per class, and we lose about 1/2 of our 5stars to attrition. UGA has easily matched bama the last two years, and they were still beating us about three to one the two years before that. Those are the difference maker players, IMHO. I love our team and our players, but it would help if we had a couple more super top dogs on the team. 

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28 minutes ago, AUinfusion said:

I have been saying for a LONG time that we aren't as close, talent wise, as we like to think to teams like bama and uga. Bama has averaged something like five 5star recruits each class for the past four or five years, to our one 5start recruit per class, and we lose about 1/2 of our 5stars to attrition. UGA has easily matched bama the last two years, and they were still beating us about three to one the two years before that. Those are the difference maker players, IMHO. I love our team and our players, but it would help if we had a couple more super top dogs on the team. 

We're close enough in talent at every position group but one. Unfortunately, it's a pretty important one. We did a great job recruiting that position group in this cycle. Hope it's not too late. 

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