Has it started?

[TigerOne 1,140]

Does Gus surround himself with yes men? We are 2-0 #8 in the polls coach! Everything is great!

Was their any improvement from game 1 to game 2? I would say no if anything Auburn played worse.

 

[nixtosanders94 2,180]

7 hours ago, AUFriction said:

Pass blocking was very good last night. They had no sacks, and only two hurried (which were both from corner blitzes). We had no holding penalties and only like 1 false start. Run blocking was inconsistent, but not as bad as everyone is making it out to be. Some of that was number 77 for Tulane, who quite frankly is a beast. Some of it was play calling. We barely ran the ball inside in the first half. When we did, it was right into 77. We made an adjustment in the second half, and we ran the ball very well. Total yards and points were a little misleading because we got conservative in the fourth quarter, just trying to finish out the game with no more injuries. The last drive was almost 9 minutes long. If we had kept the foot on the pedal, we probably would have scored 2 or 3 more times. If we had kept our foot on the pedal, the final score would have been closer to 41-6, which is a solid win. But, considering our injuries, they smartly just ran out the clock. Also, the offensive game plan yesterday was VERY vanilla. The “creative” plays were the same plays we ran against Oregon. Why show anything unique against Tulane? Keep it vanilla so you can save some of the creative stuff for SEC play.

41-6 (which is what I think the score would have been if we had kept our foot on the pedal in the 4th) against a higher quality group of 5 is a solid win. So, no, I don’t think the panic is justified. But the panic stricken aren’t going to listen to facts and reason, so I might as well be saying this to a brick wall.

Yeah, brick wall, sounds familiar....hey could I borrow your Music City Bowl champs t-shirt? I need it for a Halloween costume I’m working on? Or I could just wait and get this year’s if its too much trouble.

[johnnyAU 3,630]

We aren't a top 20 team right now IMO.  We're riding those bloated preseason rankings 'till A&M. 

[DAG 33,955]

5 minutes ago, johnnyAU said:

We aren't a top 20 team right now IMO.  We're riding those bloated preseason rankings 'till A&M. 

I think we are a top 20 but not a top ten, but to be fair ..there are really about only five teams who seem impressive. LSU, UGA, OU, Alabama and Clemson. Those teams seem to be on a different level mentally and physically. 

There are several other teams who have a unit or so that looks impressive, like Utah’s defense really impresses me, Texas physicality impresses me. However, several other teams I question including ours.  Maybe the game is watered down, I don’t know but I haven’t seen wow talent.

Ive seen people say we have a championship caliber defense and I completely disagree, while they are good, they don’t seem to be great. There are too many times where lapses occur or they are on their heels. With that being said, they are well ahead of the offense. There are some individual players on both sides that make me go wow, but that is it. 

[bigbird 60,368]

20 minutes ago, DAG said:

Okay I am as frustrated as anybody but people arkansas and ole miss aren’t toss up games. Have some clarity for a moment. With that being said, the quality teams will be a problem if we don’t figure out how to start games rolling and become more disciplined.

Does he make it to Arky or Ole Miss? What if he is 3-3 after UF? 4-4 after LSU?

Again, I hope Gus gets it fixed and we start rolling. However, I see the a lot of the same issues across the team for the last 4-5 years. I'm not sure 2 weeks will make a difference.

[nixtosanders94 2,180]

Just now, bigbird said:

Does he make it to Arky or Ole Miss? What if he is 3-3 after UF? 4-4 after LSU?

Again, I hope Gus gets it fixed and we start rolling. However, I see the a lot of the same issues across the team for the last 4-5 years. I'm not sure 2 weeks will make a difference.

Fans of Auburn...gather round...this guy is one of if not the most respected posters on this board...he knows of what he speaks...how is he wrong here in any way? 4-5 years...he is absolutely correct...what about this confuses so many? Same issues, never get corrected...how is this not obvious to so many?

[DAG 33,955]

Just now, bigbird said:

Does he make it to Arky or Ole Miss? What if he is 3-3 after UF? 4-4 after LSU?

Again, I hope Gus gets it fixed and we start rolling. However, I see the a lot of the same issues across the team for the last 4-5 years. I'm not sure 2 weeks will make a difference.

He will. These folks let Gene Chizik ride it out . I am of the mindset that if he can’t get 9 wins, then please cut the cord. It’s not personal, but eventually you can’t stay the same. And I don’t give a damn about the past (I know some of you will bring this up), in the current college football landscape, you can’t keep doing the same thing over and over. Unfortunately, I have to learn the hard way. I had the homer fever over the summer, but now, it is do or die. I don’t want to hear anymore talking. We’ve given more than enough time and then some. 

[bigbird 60,368]

1 minute ago, nixtosanders94 said:

Fans of Auburn...gather round...this guy is one of if not the most respected posters on this board...he knows of what he speaks

@augolf1716

[bigbird 60,368]

2 minutes ago, DAG said:

He will. These folks let Gene Chizik ride it out .

Chiz has some good will built in. I think Gus has used any he had left to get to 2019. Im not sure he wouldn't get Totted. 

I hope he figures things out and I look foolish by even proposing the question.

[nixtosanders94 2,180]

4 minutes ago, DAG said:

He will. These folks let Gene Chizik ride it out . I am of the mindset that if he can’t get 9 wins, then please cut the cord. It’s not personal, but eventually you can’t stay the same. And I don’t give a damn about the past (I know some of you will bring this up), in the current college football landscape, you can’t keep doing the same thing over and over. Unfortunately, I have to learn the hard way. I had the homer fever over the summer, but now, it is do or die. I don’t want to hear anymore talking. We’ve given more than enough time and then some. 

This all day, Every year we are Charlie Brown and Gus pulls that football right out from under us. I was even drinking the kool aid this summer...right up to about halftime of Oregon.

[DAG 33,955]

Just now, bigbird said:

Chiz has some good will built in. I think Gus has used any he had left to get to 2019. Im not sure he wouldn't get Totted. 

I hope he figures things out and I look foolish by even proposing the question.

I think it depends on how bad the losses are...

what I will say is I hope our brass as someone on speed dial with a back up plan. It seems in the past that has never been the case. Rest assured our HC has one. 

[bigbird 60,368]

4 minutes ago, DAG said:

I think it depends on how bad the losses are...

what I will say is I hope our brass as someone on speed dial with a back up plan. It seems in the past that has never been the case. Rest assured our HC has one. 

If it did happen midseason, that would allow a search to start and have ready by season's end. It would also allow us to get a leg up on other schools that will be looking. Just random thoughts...

 

My first choice is to win with Gus.

[AU64 10,122]

11 minutes ago, bigbird said:

Does he make it to Arky or Ole Miss? What if he is 3-3 after UF? 4-4 after LSU?

C'mon ….don't be shy....if that is what you think will happen....then say so..   All of this "does he" or  "what ifs"  are just a way to give an out when you are wrong.   Like reading some political editorial....a weak way to cast aspersions and yet try to look supportive. 

SO...make actual predictions....and not just alternative speculations...  If you turn out to be right, you can post an "I told you so".  

[DAG 33,955]

1 minute ago, bigbird said:

If it did happen midseason, that would allow a search to start and have ready by season's end. It would also allow us to get a leg up on other schools that will be looking. Just random thoughts...

 

My first choice is to win with Gus.

Well most of us want Gus to win. Despite how others feel, but we are also realist too. The bottom line is, we need to improve, FAST. We have one more week to sure up stuff before the gauntlet begins. 

[DAG 33,955]

Just now, AU64 said:

C'mon ….don't be shy....if that is what you think will happen....then say so..   All of this "does he" or  "what ifs"  are just a way to give an out when you are wrong.   Like reading some political editorial....a weak way to cast aspersions and yet try to look supportive. 

SO...make actual predictions....and not just alternative speculations...  If you turn out to be right, you can post an "I told you so".  

Why? You don’t do that. You tend to disappear. 

[AuburnNTexas 7,127]

The O-Line is playing horrible and other then Hastings none of the receivers are helping, The coach doesn't know how to scheme to help the O-line.  Seth has made some big plays but is currently out. Boobee plays hard and gives his all which is partially why he has fumbleitis. We need to get other backs involved. All that said we still can pull this season out.  Texas A&M played decent defense against Clemson but only has 3 legitimate DT's and two are banged up.  The A&M O-Line was good and did a great job protecting Mond but Mond just flat out wasn't very good.  If Mond plays the same way against us we can win this game. A&M has some good receivers so will be a challenge for our DB's. 

We win Ole Miss, Miss State, Arkansas and I think A&M will be a close game we can win but I think they will be favored. Fla is a toss up.  LSU, Georgia, bama we will be underdogs as would every other team in the Country but Clemson at this time.  

So I have a question. If Auburn finds a way to beat everybody but LSU,  bama, and Georgia the #2, #3, and #4 team in the country and the games are not blow outs does Gus deserve to come back next year? 

[AU64 10,122]

3 minutes ago, DAG said:

Why? You don’t do that. You tend to disappear. 

I predict we are at least 6-1 after Arkansas

So if you disagree, then say so.... 

[bigbird 60,368]

1 minute ago, AU64 said:

C'mon ….don't be shy....if that is what you think will happen....then say so..   All of this "does he" or  "what ifs"  are just a way to give an out when you are wrong.   Like reading some political editorial....a weak way to cast aspersions and yet try to look supportive. 

SO...make actual predictions....and not just alternative speculations...  If you turn out to be right, you can post an "I told you so".  

Looks like I struck a nerve. 

 

We very easily could be 3-3 after UF or 4-4 after LSU. The way we played Saturday reinforces that possibility. I'm sorry you're too stubborn, clueless, or blind to see those possibilities.

As for actual predictions go, each week is different and is predicated on improvement across the previous week's games. That why preseason polls and prognostication is so silly. If you want to ask me about the next week's game after the previous week's performance, then I'll gladly give my opinions.

 

FTR, I don't need to post, " I told you sos."

[DAG 33,955]

Just now, AU64 said:

I predict we are at least 6-1 after Arkansas

So if you disagree, then say so.... 

My prediction is in the prediction thread so you can look there for reference. However, it is ABSOLUTELY okay for fans to speak about glaring issues. Just because they do that doesn’t mean they are wanting Gus to fail. Now, there are some fans who do want him to fail, but the poster, you are speaking towards does not.

[bigbird 60,368]

3 minutes ago, AuburnNTexas said:

 So I have a question. If Auburn finds a way to beat everybody but LSU,  bama, and Georgia the #2, #3, and #4 team in the country and the games are not blow outs does Gus deserve to come back next year? 

I would say, yes.

[abw0004 10,104]

14 minutes ago, DAG said:

The bottom line is, we need to improve, FAST. We have one more week to sure up stuff before the gauntlet begins. 

Fortunately we did this same thing against Mercer in 2017 (but worse) and went to the SEC Championship that year.  Hopefully we can improve to get back there like we did then.

[nixtosanders94 2,180]

2 minutes ago, bigbird said:

I would say, yes.

I would say he will come back if that happens...should he? Different question...that would make him 2-5 against all 3 of those teams...our biggest rivals. 6-15 in 7 years...and next hear losing a lot of defensive talent and still no offensive line...at some point you need a fresh look and to cut bait when it’s obvious things won’t change.

[DAG 33,955]

Just now, abw0004 said:

Fortunately we did this same thing against Mercer in 2017 (but worse) and went to the SEC Championship that year.  Hopefully we can improve to get back there like we did then.

True , but we also had 2018. The inconsistency is the issue. Like I said, I am cautiously observing . I just want to see a complete four quarter game with minimal mistakes this week.  

[bigbird 60,368]

1 minute ago, nixtosanders94 said:

I would say he will come back if that happens...should he? Different question...that would make him 2-5 against all 3 of those teams...our biggest rivals. 6-15 in 7 years...and next hear losing a lot of defensive talent and still no offensive line...at some point you need a fresh look and to cut bait when it’s obvious things won’t change.

That's probably the best way to look at it. Do we get better by keeping him another year.

 

3 minutes ago, abw0004 said:

Fortunately we did this same thing against Mercer in 2017 (but worse) and went to the SEC Championship that year.  Hopefully we can improve to get back there like we did then.

I hope that happens again.

Possible vs actual...

[Zeek 16,615]

It's just time to break it off and it will never be pretty. He's a fine man but he just isn't the man for the job here at Auburn. We had one first down in the first quarter against Tulane... this isn't acceptable by any means. There would be more wiggle room if we had a head coach like Muschamp who is a defensive specialist and our offense was struggling. Instead, we have an offensive specialist making top tier money who can't coach an offense.

Even when Gus  has been effective, since Cam's departure we have looked absolutely awful in the red zone. Calling our red zone offense trash would be an insult to garbage across the landfills. This is just one example of where he has failed us offensively. He refuses to rotate running backs, receivers get pigeon holed into only doing one job, the Offensive Line is simply offensive, and we didn't manage our roster in a way that would foster a smooth transition into Stidham's replacement. I love Bo and will gladly be called a "Stan" for the guy but in an ideal world a true freshman shouldn't be the starter at Auburn unless he's the next Trevor Lawrence of freshman (Bo has potential but he's been far from lights out).

Our punt coverage is awful, our kicker inconsistent, our defense is starting out flat, and our pass rush has been non-existent since sensei-mud left a little too early for the NFL. Some of the brightest spots on our team are young guys who haven't been coached up yet; which is alarming.

We are not in a good position and I don't believe Gus is the future. Even the biggest Gus apologist can't tell me with a straight face that he will be the guy to lead to consistent 9-10 win seasons and consistent appearances in the SECCG.