Has it started?

[bigbird 60,457]

1 minute ago, Zeek said:

Even the biggest Gus apologist can't tell me with a straight face that he will be the guy to lead to consistent 9-10 win seasons and consistent appearances in the SECCG. 

Challenge accepted

-64

[abw0004 10,110]

2 minutes ago, bigbird said:

I hope that happens again.

Possible vs actual...

 

[nixtosanders94 2,180]

2 minutes ago, Zeek said:

It's just time to break it off and it will never be pretty. He's a fine man but he just isn't the man for the job here at Auburn. We had one first down in the first quarter against Tulane... this isn't acceptable by any means. There would be more wiggle room if we had a head coach like Muschamp who is a defensive specialist and our offense was struggling. Instead, we have an offensive specialist making top tier money who can't coach an offense.

Even when Gus  has been effective, since Cam's departure we have looked absolutely awful in the red zone. Calling our red zone offense trash would be an insult to garbage across the landfills. This is just one example of where he has failed us offensively. He refuses to rotate running backs, receivers get pigeon holed into only doing one job, the Offensive Line is simply offensive, and we didn't manage our roster in a way that would foster a smooth transition into Stidham's replacement. I love Bo and will gladly be called a "Stan" for the guy but in an ideal world a true freshman shouldn't be the starter at Auburn unless he's the next Trevor Lawrence of freshman (Bo has potential but he's been far from lights out).

Our punt coverage is awful, our kicker inconsistent, our defense is starting out flat, and our pass rush has been non-existent since sensei-mud left a little too early for the NFL. Some of the brightest spots on our team are young guys who haven't been coached up yet; which is alarming.

We are not in a good position and I don't believe Gus is the future. Even the biggest Gus apologist can't tell me with a straight face that he will be the guy to lead to consistent 9-10 win seasons and consistent appearances in the SECCG. 

But but but Tulane is a really good team!

[bigbird 60,457]

3 minutes ago, abw0004 said:

 

I do...but Gus.

 

[AU64 10,122]

25 minutes ago, DAG said:

You tend to disappear. 

Actually I tend to disappear when I can't stand any more of the anti-Gus stuff and the general negativism.  

Just thinking that it is not me that disappears....some regular posters from the past are rarely on the board now..   Wonder why?  

[nixtosanders94 2,180]

2 minutes ago, AU64 said:

Actually I tend to disappear when I can't stand any more of the anti-Gus stuff and the general negativism.  

Just thinking that it is not me that disappears....some regular posters from the past are rarely on the board now..   Wonder why?  

Funny...I stop coming because I tire of people defending our crappy football coach...guess it works both ways

[abw0004 10,110]

3 minutes ago, bigbird said:

I do...but Gus.

 

[fredst 9,064]

39 minutes ago, bigbird said:

Im not sure he wouldn't get Totted. 

I love this. If it won't be copyright infringement I plan to use this without attribution. Thanks Bird!

[DAG 33,962]

3 minutes ago, AU64 said:

Actually I tend to disappear when I can't stand any more of the anti-Gus stuff and the general negativism.  

Just thinking that it is not me that disappears....some regular posters from the past are rarely on the board now..   Wonder why?  

And that’s fine. That is yours prerogative, but for us who stay around and engage through the good and bad, it is quite tiresome when others come back only to be snide when it suits your purpose. 

[bigbird 60,457]

2 minutes ago, fredst said:

I love this. If it won't be copyright infringement I plan to use this without attribution. Thanks Bird!

To be fair, we, the fans, might be the ones being Totted. 🤬

[AU64 10,122]

8 minutes ago, bigbird said:

Challenge accepted

-64

I guess if Zeek's standard is what is expected, Gus is not likely to do that in the current SEC.  Rather than take the chance,  we might as well cut him loose now and start the search for someone who can.

BUT....I sure hate to see Auburn become the next  media laughing stock like Tennessee or Ole Miss or Nebraska became.  

After all, if we had done this several years ago, think of all the good successful coaches we could have selected from who have gone on to win championships elsewhere.      

[bigbird 60,457]

9 minutes ago, AU64 said:

Just thinking that it is not me that disappears....some regular posters from the past are rarely on the board now..   Wonder why?  

They can no longer stomach and or defend the indefensible and have become so apathetic towards AU football that they don't want to waste time talking about it?

You really think it's because some point out the faults in our team? Bless your heart.

[nixtosanders94 2,180]

3 minutes ago, AU64 said:

I guess if Zeek's standard is what is expected, Gus is not likely to do that in the current SEC.  Rather than take the chance,  we might as well cut him loose now and start the search for someone who can.

BUT....I sure hate to see Auburn become the next  media laughing stock like Tennessee or Ole Miss or Nebraska became.  

After all, if we had done this several years ago, think of all the good successful coaches we could have selected from who have gone on to win championships elsewhere.      

So you prefer consistent mediocrity to the bottom falling out? Ok I can kinda understand that. Sure glad bama and Clemson never took a chance and stayed mediocre...

[AU64 10,122]

5 minutes ago, DAG said:

And that’s fine. That is yours prerogative, but for us who stay around and engage through the good and bad, it is quite tiresome when others come back only to be snide when it suits your purpose. 

I'm not being snide about the team or the coaches...….but I reserve the right to be snide about crybaby fans who rag the coaching staff and administration 7 days per week. No doubt Gus is an imperfect coach but about anything negative you can say about him and his play calling or player selection,  could be said about any other major coach.   

I accept him as a flawed human being...and a flawed coach.....but I've seen enough other flawed human beings (including myself) and flawed coaches to know that doing better is unlikely.    So I see no point in continuing to beat him down. 

[augolf1716 21,101]

57 minutes ago, nixtosanders94 said:

Fans of Auburn...gather round...this guy is one of if not the most respected posters on this board...he knows of what he speaks...how is he wrong here in any way? 4-5 years...he is absolutely correct...what about this confuses so many? Same issues, never get corrected...how is this not obvious to so many?

Now that's some funny stuff right there

[bigbird 60,457]

5 minutes ago, AU64 said:

BUT....I sure hate to see Auburn become the next  media laughing stock like Tennessee or Ole Miss or Nebraska became.  

You mean something like yearly being named the nation's most unpredictable team? 

You worry about becoming a laughing stock? I hate to break it to you, our rivals have been laughing for years and are thrilled we have Gus.

[AU64 10,122]

4 minutes ago, bigbird said:

They can no longer stomach and or defend the indefensible and have become so apathetic towards AU football that they don't want to waste time talking about it?

You really think it's because some point out the faults in our team? Bless your heart.

Sorry but I think you misread things......lots of solid AU fans get tired of seeing their team and coach beat up by other "loyal" AU fans who apparently think they are doing something or saying things that are gonna help the team be  more successful.    The "advice" to our coaches and players on this site is downright laughable from many posters....

[bigbird 60,457]

46 minutes ago, AU64 said:

but about anything negative you can say about him and his play calling or player selection,  could be said about any other major coach.  

Umm...what other major coach has had 6 QBs in a game, runs a dive 17 times, plays a 1 armed QB, runs the same play after a 1st down, pigeon holes his skill players, platoons his offense, has basic passing concepts, limits QB reads, predetermines ZR calls, telegraphs plays by personnel (Barrett swing/Joiner wheel), etc...

 

Like I said earlier, stubborn, clueless, or blind.

[bigbird 60,457]

2 minutes ago, AU64 said:

The "advice" to our coaches and players on this site is downright laughable from many posters....

Just not quite as laughable as the defenses put up by others.

[Zeek 16,640]

11 minutes ago, AU64 said:

I guess if Zeek's standard is what is expected, Gus is not likely to do that in the current SEC.  Rather than take the chance,  we might as well cut him loose now and start the search for someone who can.

BUT....I sure hate to see Auburn become the next  media laughing stock like Tennessee or Ole Miss or Nebraska became.  

After all, if we had done this several years ago, think of all the good successful coaches we could have selected from who have gone on to win championships elsewhere.      

Look I agree, but it's like a relationship. You don't stay with your current partner because you're afraid you can't do any better. I'm not even looking for National Championships right now. I'm looking for a coach who can actually blowout these cupcakes (with a little more aggression instead of taking a knee on the 5 yard line to run out the clock), who has players coming out looking like they're actually prepared to play, and who doesn't lose to teams far inferior (Moo State and LSU last year were far from acceptable).

I know that Saban and Kirby have built the best teams money can buy and by Auburn's virtue we can't achieve that level of success without compromising our beliefs; I don't want us to do so at least. But, we can at the very least come out looking competent for a full four quarters and have a little bit more of an edge to our play style. 

[1auburn1 1,110]

How about this....how about rather than being mad at Gus, how about directing anger toward the administration and board that gave Gus an absurd contract?    It’s the same ol’ Gus.   He isn’t going to change.   Same yesterday, today and likely tomorrow.    He’s a pretty good coach who runs a clean program and is a good, decent person.    The results show that.   We’ll never consistently compete with the top tier programs as long as he’s at AU but we won’t be the worst program around.     It’s like criticizing a rock for being a rock.     Unless AD Greene, the Prez and the BoT understand the fan base is completely fed up with this crap, we’ll have a 4-4 conference record at best just about every year.      Otherwise, let’s just enjoy crisp autumn afternoons without the worry of polls, pundits and championship runs.   So much more relaxing!

[leglessdan 1,934]

64 is right, we should all be good little Auburn fans that blind support everything that the University chooses to do and just be happy we have a football team to watch. We also haven't had any wholesale changes to the uniforms,  so there's that. We also need to remember,  we took a good ol boy from Arkansas and made it to where he, nor his children ever have to work another day in their lives, while simultaneously jeopardizing the dreams and development of other people's children. I mean, because we're a family right? We don't need to worry about improving...for goodness sake, we just beat "the" Tulane University. All is well and good in the football world because we're 2-0 and ranked in the top 10 of a meaningless poll two weeks into the season. What could go wrong. Hand us the Championship. 

[Brad_ATX 13,654]

11 hours ago, around4ever said:

8-5?  That means we are 3-5 in conference play and get a patsy in the Birmingham Bowl.  Sorry but 3 wins in the conference, again, demands the HC be fired.   I honestly hope we can win 8 games. 

Not exactly.  7-5 gets you the Texas, Liberty, Music City, Belk, or Gator Bowls.  6-6 puts Bham in play.

Also, you're assuming a bowl win with your scenario.  We could go 8-4 and lose the bowl.  What if those 4 losses are UA, UGA, LSU, and A&M?  Three of those teams are in the current top 4 and look to be legit playoff contenders.  The other is our true freshman QB's first real road game.  But that scenario also would mean we win at Florida.

Side bar: I still think we go 9-3 just because the defense is that good.  Not sold on either A&M or Florida being huge mountains to climb.

[johnnyAU 3,630]

At this point I'm guessing we are sub 0.500 in SEC play by season's end with some double digit blowout losses.  Right now I can't see this team beating Bama, LSU, UGA or A&M, and possibly dropping at least one if not a couple to MSU, Ole Miss, Florida and Arkansas. 

Maybe that will change if we can figure out who we are trying to be on offense in the next 2 weeks.

[McLoofus 35,182]

57 minutes ago, AU64 said:

No doubt Gus is an imperfect coach but about anything negative you can say about him and his play calling or player selection,  could be said about any other major coach.

That's not true. That's, like, suuuuuuuuper not true.