Joey Gatewood usage

[leglessdan 1,934]

3 minutes ago, Zeek said:

Zero carries for Worm, DJ, Stove, Miller, Joiner.

Also, we had plenty of 4 wide receiver sets where guys like Joiner and Nigh were out wide serving no purpose. Gus was playing connect 4 while Mullen player chess.

Gus was playing Lite Bright with the light bulb burned out.

[Zeek 16,643]

26 minutes ago, leglessdan said:

Gus was playing Lite Bright with the light bulb burned out.

My dude was drawing on an Etch-a-sketch while driving down a bumpy road blindfolded 

[leglessdan 1,934]

6 minutes ago, Zeek said:

My dude was drawing on an Etch-a-sketch while driving down a bumpy road blindfolded 

With the left knob broken 

Or better yet...it was an old one that still had imprints of some of the previous drawings 

[Zeek 16,643]

5 minutes ago, leglessdan said:

With the left knob broken 

Or better yet...it was an old one that still had imprints of some of the previous drawings 

That Dan Mullen lended him before the game promising he hadn’t looked at the old drawings 

[wde1968 262]

With the week off I'd give Joey the one reps and start him at rKansas. The Def is going start lagging It's year after year. They start great get tired of carrying the offense. With those turnovers should have won by 17 at minimum.

[Malcolm_FleX48 1,869]

People don't get it unfortunately. 

Gatewood has been all-in for Auburn, forgoing the opportunity to transfer early and get enrolled in a different school for a chance to get a head start at a new 4 year university. You don't reward that loyalty and doing what has been asked of you perfectly by saying, "We just didn't put his package in when the guy at his position was struggling." How much patience can you burn off of a guy that way?

The biggest issue here is that we've seen the weakness in Gus tailoring things to help Bo out and Bo's youth and deficiencies coming to the forefront. Best believe other teams have seen that too. They'll start rolling coverages, disguising blitzes and making Bo think and hold onto the ball for longer to continue to chip away at the confidence that's starting to waiver. Then you'll end up with a ruined TRUE FRESHMAN QB while the other QB with comparable experience transfers out. That's QB purgatory because then it will be up to Gus to fix whatever bad habits and adaptations that Bo develops as a result of these bad games behind disastrous OL play. 

And we all know what the likelihood of Gus fixing QB issues is.

[Dual-Threat Rigby 8,652]

2 hours ago, Malcolm_FleX48 said:

People don't get it unfortunately. 

Gatewood has been all-in for Auburn, forgoing the opportunity to transfer early and get enrolled in a different school for a chance to get a head start at a new 4 year university. You don't reward that loyalty and doing what has been asked of you perfectly by saying, "We just didn't put his package in when the guy at his position was struggling." How much patience can you burn off of a guy that way?

The biggest issue here is that we've seen the weakness in Gus tailoring things to help Bo out and Bo's youth and deficiencies coming to the forefront. Best believe other teams have seen that too. They'll start rolling coverages, disguising blitzes and making Bo think and hold onto the ball for longer to continue to chip away at the confidence that's starting to waiver. Then you'll end up with a ruined TRUE FRESHMAN QB while the other QB with comparable experience transfers out. That's QB purgatory because then it will be up to Gus to fix whatever bad habits and adaptations that Bo develops as a result of these bad games behind disastrous OL play. 

And we all know what the likelihood of Gus fixing QB issues is.

I was talking to my gma and we both agreed that the best thing for Bo would’ve been to see some things from the sideline and get a breather at SOME point during this roller coaster drop he experienced. Maybe you don’t give Joey the whole game, but a frame of reference of a calmer head (and all preseason reports led us to believe Joey was THE guy when the lights came on) could do him wonders. I don’t know what confidence you saved for a guy who obviously wasn’t confident in running to the best of his ability, plus the obv passing deficiencies 

[cole256 17,042]

12 hours ago, jptiger said:

Joey Gatewood is not the second coming of Cam Newton. We will win a bunch of games and probably championships with Nix. Some have it. Some don’t.  Nix has it. He is a freshman and played like it today. Get ready for next week. 

Lol

[AU57 67]

If I am 2nd team (any pos.) and guy in front of me is totally stinking it up and I don't get a chance to play..I'm gone.  I assure you Joey and his family have been on the phone this morning gathering options.

[cole256 17,042]

5 hours ago, Dual-Threat Rigby said:

I was talking to my gma and we both agreed that the best thing for Bo would’ve been to see some things from the sideline and get a breather at SOME point during this roller coaster drop he experienced. Maybe you don’t give Joey the whole game, but a frame of reference of a calmer head (and all preseason reports led us to believe Joey was THE guy when the lights came on) could do him wonders. I don’t know what confidence you saved for a guy who obviously wasn’t confident in running to the best of his ability, plus the obv passing deficiencies 

Yeah but then how is that fair to Joey? You didn't let him play in all these other games but you throw him out there in the swamp because our other QB is shell shocked? He's the only guy with experience.

Also just watching what happened to Floridamakes me nervous as far as we haven't prepped ourselves at all for a plan B

[johnnyAU 3,630]

23 minutes ago, cole256 said:

Yeah but then how is that fair to Joey? You didn't let him play in all these other games but you throw him out there in the swamp because our other QB is shell shocked? He's the only guy with experience.

Also just watching what happened to Floridamakes me nervous as far as we haven't prepped ourselves at all for a plan B

Gus has never had a Plan B.  He goes with his Plan A, and grinds it into the ground whether it's working or failing miserably. 

[around4ever 4,139]

22 minutes ago, johnnyAU said:

Gus has never had a Plan B.  He goes with his Plan A, and grinds it into the ground whether it's working or failing miserably. 

Correct.  The problem with Gus's plan is that he doesn't take into account what the defense has done in other games or what the defense is doing against us.  He thinks that he can run the same plays, with same blocking schemes against any defense.  He thinks his offense will work against any defensive plan.  He had a terrible plan to handle 58, 88, 4, etc.  Their DEs were untouched in our backfield all day long.  They have done that all season.  Gus had no plan to stop it.  

[sevenlee36 1,654]

We will see  some Joey against Arkansas because the only game that matters to Gus is Arkansas and he will do everything he can to win it. Can’t wait for the false hope that come from beating Arkansas. This season will be more like the 2003 team. Big time defensive stars returning, high hopes, no offense and a let down.

[oracle79 3,569]

[jAUSon 2,836]

Bo's and Joey's confidence my ass. At a minimum, you swap out quarterbacks as a spitball chance to win the game. When your team is dead, those philosophical arguments need to disposed of. You're 5-0 on the road sitting in quicksand. At that moment there is no tomorrow. This aint baseball. You don't sit on a loss and save something for later. You DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER win the damn game. A month ago JG was in a dead-even race for starter. Yet nothing. Gus even stood and watched QB3 come from the opposite sideline in a pinch and wear our ass out. Yet nothing. 

And let's be clear: Fans calling for Gatewood as a last-ditch effort to try something, is entirely different than calling for Bo's head and thus blaming coach outright for this loss, isn't the same as calling for his head. 

 

[KolchakAU85 430]

19 hours ago, WFE12 said:

Like I said in the game thread I think Gus was scared to put Joey in on the road even though it made all the sense to do it. How many times did we fail on 3rd down? And to not use the 6'5 250 guy?..It paid off in the Oregon game to leave Bo in so he's so stuck on being different and keeping him in it made us look worse. I mean you're not redshirting him...Why is he riding the pine ALL game?

Respectfully,

Gatewood is riding pine all game (or most of it) because Gus does not want a QB controversy.  Gatewood will be a nice complimentary piece to our offense, but will NEVER be put in a position to appear to be a viable alternative to Nix.  That's the last thing we want -  to shake the confidence of Nix to his core.

And Gus is right for playing it out like this.

Gatewood, while effective within his limited QB skill set, is never going to be the offensive leader that Nix is.  And Gus knows it, so he guards against any hint of a QB controversy.

Look, I understand you Gatewood lovers.  He's a good player, within certain boundaries.  But Nix clearly outplayed him in fall camp.  Nix is, and deserves to be, the unquestioned starter.  But he's a freshman, bound to make some freshman mistakes, and deserves to make them without having to look over his shoulder all the time at an oncoming Gatewood.

Gus has (rightly) put all AU eggs into the Nix basket.  Accept it and move on.

[Dual-Threat Rigby 8,652]

6 hours ago, cole256 said:

Yeah but then how is that fair to Joey? You didn't let him play in all these other games but you throw him out there in the swamp because our other QB is shell shocked? He's the only guy with experience.

Also just watching what happened to Floridamakes me nervous as far as we haven't prepped ourselves at all for a plan B

I was honestly typing that out in an ideal sense. Joey probably wouldnt succeed in that situation but the guy seems to have such an edge that Id like to think he coulda came in cold and at least been a neutral. If we just had someone that could run the read option almost every play and hit 5-10 yard passes, it wouldve been an improvement and probably a win

[Dual-Threat Rigby 8,652]

23 minutes ago, KolchakAU85 said:

Respectfully,

Gatewood is riding pine all game (or most of it) because Gus does not want a QB controversy.  Gatewood will be a nice complimentary piece to our offense, but will NEVER be put in a position to appear to be a viable alternative to Nix.  That's the last thing we want -  to shake the confidence of Nix to his core.

And Gus is right for playing it out like this.

Gatewood, while effective within his limited QB skill set, is never going to be the offensive leader that Nix is.  And Gus knows it, so he guards against any hint of a QB controversy.

Look, I understand you Gatewood lovers.  He's a good player, within certain boundaries.  But Nix clearly outplayed him in fall camp.  Nix is, and deserves to be, the unquestioned starter.  But he's a freshman, bound to make some freshman mistakes, and deserves to make them without having to look over his shoulder all the time at an oncoming Gatewood.

Gus has (rightly) put all AU eggs into the Nix basket.  Accept it and move on.

Quite literally every player that spoke about Gatewood praised his ability to be a leader during interviews, but maybe some guy off the internet would know better? 

[KolchakAU85 430]

2 minutes ago, Dual-Threat Rigby said:

Quite literally every player that spoke about Gatewood praised his ability to be a leader during interviews, but maybe some guy off the internet would know better? 

Yeah, I guess I'd know better.  LOL.

Every report I heard from fall camp said Nix clearly outplayed Gatewood.

Nix has been groomed to play QB at AU since he was in the 8the grade, by a former great AU QB.  Gatewood has been a QB since the last couple years?  Come on.

Look, I love Gatewood.  But get used to waving goodbye to him, because we'll all be doing that after this season, or next.  Then he can become a running specialist for Arkansas State.  Which is where he belongs, in the grand scheme of things.

[leglessdan 1,934]

Willfully ignorant folks in here...damn

[KolchakAU85 430]

2 minutes ago, leglessdan said:

Willfully ignorant folks in here...damn

Like you?  Or (add name)?

Hell, I'm big enough to admit that I'm ignorant.  But not willfully.

[Malcolm_FleX48 1,869]

8 minutes ago, KolchakAU85 said:

Yeah, I guess I'd know better.  LOL.

Every report I heard from fall camp said Nix clearly outplayed Gatewood.

Nix has been groomed to play QB at AU since he was in the 8the grade, by a former great AU QB.  Gatewood has been a QB since the last couple years?  Come on.

Look, I love Gatewood.  But get used to waving goodbye to him, because we'll all be doing that after this season, or next.  Then he can become a Heisman winning QB under Lincoln Riley once Hurts leaves.

Hot takes are definitely abound today. Happy Sunday folks.

 

[Weagle_Weagle 7]

14 hours ago, Malcolm_FleX48 said:

People don't get it unfortunately. 

Gatewood has been all-in for Auburn, forgoing the opportunity to transfer early and get enrolled in a different school for a chance to get a head start at a new 4 year university. You don't reward that loyalty and doing what has been asked of you perfectly by saying, "We just didn't put his package in when the guy at his position was struggling." How much patience can you burn off of a guy that way?

The biggest issue here is that we've seen the weakness in Gus tailoring things to help Bo out and Bo's youth and deficiencies coming to the forefront. Best believe other teams have seen that too. They'll start rolling coverages, disguising blitzes and making Bo think and hold onto the ball for longer to continue to chip away at the confidence that's starting to waiver. Then you'll end up with a ruined TRUE FRESHMAN QB while the other QB with comparable experience transfers out. That's QB purgatory because then it will be up to Gus to fix whatever bad habits and adaptations that Bo develops as a result of these bad games behind disastrous OL play. 

And we all know what the likelihood of Gus fixing QB issues is.

Agree. Gatewood has been all in on Auburn since he was a junior in HS. He deserves an opportunity when the new guy ahead of him isn’t getting it done. People say Nix is the better passer and has “it”, but I’ve seen Nix consistently miss on intermediate passes that are open. Joey brings a different element to our offense and I’m not sure how his passing could be dramatically worse than Nix at this point. 

I also think the team believes in Joey Gatewood. Reading some of the off-season quotes by players about JG, they seemed to have a lot of confidence in JG to lead our offense. 

Gus may lose the team if Nix continues to struggle but Gus sticks with him.  JG has been with the team for two years and his teammates have seen the work he’s put in. Nix is the the first year Golden Child who ESPN is doing Gameday stories about because of his dad. The Nix hype, however hasn’t translated to his play on the field. It could rub the team the wrong way if Nix continues to struggle but Gus refuses to give JG a chance. 

[Dual-Threat Rigby 8,652]

10 minutes ago, KolchakAU85 said:

Yeah, I guess I'd know better.  LOL.

Every report I heard from fall camp said Nix clearly outplayed Gatewood.

Nix has been groomed to play QB at AU since he was in the 8the grade, by a former great AU QB.  Gatewood has been a QB since the last couple years?  Come on.

Look, I love Gatewood.  But get used to waving goodbye to him, because we'll all be doing that after this season, or next.  Then he can become a running specialist for Arkansas State.  Which is where he belongs, in the grand scheme of things.

Im not sure what you gained from the last two stanzas there. You implied/stated that this guy, that has been groomed for this offense for over half a decade, is supposed to be this talent thats head and shoulders better right? How long is it going to take before we see that on the field? If theres some way these wet dreams of yours could transfer to the games, we'd all be better off, but I dont think thats happening any time soon 

[Dual-Threat Rigby 8,652]

9 minutes ago, Malcolm_FleX48 said:

Hot takes are definitely abound today. Happy Sunday folks.

 

Imagine being groomed for a system for about 6 years now...and looking unprepared for that system 4.5/6 games