Quietmaninthecorner 1,945 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I don't know s*** about coaching contracts, but .... Since we have to pay gus the buyout if we fire him, couldn't we just demote him? Make him clean toilets, put him on stadium clean up duty after games (all sports), clean up toomers after a win, all the s***ty jobs that we can think of and replace that bum with a coach . Give him the most humiliating jobs at Auburn. Students can taunt him till he quits. Since we will have to pay that bum anyway, we may as well put him to work! Don't fire him, change his workplace responsibilities. Put him on graveyard shift. Demote his s***ty ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr82be 14,421 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 For a quiet man you said a mouthful. I suggested something like that last year but my job description wasn't as colorful as yours. I thought a reassignment was an option but I don't think humiliation should be part of it. Gus is not the coach we need but he's a good man and deserves more respect as a person than humiliation. But that's my take on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lurtz Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, gr82be said: For a quiet man you said a mouthful. I suggested something like that last year but my job description wasn't as colorful as yours. I thought a reassignment was an option but I don't think humiliation should be part of it. Gus is not the coach we need but he's a good man and deserves more respect as a person than humiliation. But that's my take on it. And it's the right take. This isn't about hating Gus or punishing Gus. It's about getting the football coach that the University, the players, and the fans deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
around4ever 4,139 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Gus is a good family man. He is a Christian man. He treats all people around him very well. He does not deserve to be humiliated or demoted. A simple ‘thank you for all the good things you have done for Auburn University and the football program but it’s time for us to go in another direction. Here’s your check. We wish you the best’ will be the way to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietmaninthecorner 1,945 Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 43 minutes ago, around4ever said: Gus is a good family man. He is a Christian man. He treats all people around him very well. He does not deserve to be humiliated or demoted. A simple ‘thank you for all the good things you have done for Auburn University and the football program but it’s time for us to go in another direction. Here’s your check. We wish you the best’ will be the way to do it. The point is not so much the humiliation as it is to get him to quit on his own or work for his buyout. $20 million is more than enough compensation for some humiliation. If he is such "good Christian man " and not just hypocrisy hidden behind a veil of Christianity may be he should just use a simple " thank you Auburn for the opportunity and money" and cancel the buyout clause and mutually part ways. It is enough money to fight for. I think we should. Hell Arkansas is fighting Beliema and they outright fired the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedaler 1,000 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Heck, I'd clean toilets all day long for $20 M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Freak 2,526 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Probably because he has a contract and all that is already laid out in it.. And his lawyers are better than our lawyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoALtiger 3,849 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 If we’d do that to him, we’d do that to any other coach too and they know this. If we want to run off all the great coaching prospects, then yes let’s do it. Would effect more than football too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnell 592 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 8 hours ago, around4ever said: Gus is a good family man. He is a Christian man. He treats all people around him very well. He does not deserve to be humiliated or demoted. A simple ‘thank you for all the good things you have done for Auburn University and the football program but it’s time for us to go in another direction. Here’s your check. We wish you the best’ will be the way to do it. I agree and what kind of message would that send to potential coaching canadiates if they see Gus treated that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyAU 3,630 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 No, we couldn't do that to him, but the thought of it does give me smile a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUsince72 11,084 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Pedaler said: Heck, I'd clean toilets all day long for $20 M I might even give'em an extra hour of my time, per week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUsince72 11,084 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 My wife used to work for Japanese companies and that's sorta what they do. At least in her circles, which were pretty standard for the most part, instead of firing an underachiever they would simply demote them to sit at a desk and literally do nothing. Their "honor" would generally force them to quit. Essentially, that's what the buyout would be. Of course, $20+M can buy a lot of honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,957 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 10 hours ago, Quietmaninthecorner said: I don't know s*** about coaching contracts, but .... Since we have to pay gus the buyout if we fire him, couldn't we just demote him? Make him clean toilets, put him on stadium clean up duty after games (all sports), clean up toomers after a win, all the s***ty jobs that we can think of and replace that bum with a coach . Give him the most humiliating jobs at Auburn. Students can taunt him till he quits. Since we will have to pay that bum anyway, we may as well put him to work! Don't fire him, change his workplace responsibilities. Put him on graveyard shift. Demote his s***ty ass. I am sure this post is just in jest but I am pretty sure when he signed on he had defined job details within his title, like every other job. If they were to change that, I am sure that would be a break on his original contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Quietmaninthecorner said: If he is such "good Christian man " and not just hypocrisy hidden behind a veil of Christianity may be he should just use a simple " thank you Auburn for the opportunity and money" and cancel the buyout clause and mutually part ways. Why on Earth would he do that, and what would that have to do with him being a Christian? Auburn knew full and well what they were doing when they signed that contract. Gus is 100% entitled to the money, and Auburn owes him every cent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rophle 256 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Good luck getting bob stoops when he sees how we treated Gus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Also, I can promise you that an attempt to "demote" Gus would not relieve the University of it's obligation to Gus. It would essentially create a new contract, and would be no different than firing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike4AU 1,739 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 40 minutes ago, Barnacle said: Also, I can promise you that an attempt to "demote" Gus would not relieve the University of it's obligation to Gus. It would essentially create a new contract, and would be no different than firing him. Precisely. His contract and compensation is guaranteed unless there is firing for cause. This is not even debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubaseball 2,588 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mike4AU said: Precisely. His contract and compensation is guaranteed unless there is firing for cause. This is not even debatable. Don’t respond to the trolls. That’s all that nonsense is, trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
around4ever 4,139 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Carnell said: I agree and what kind of message would that send to potential coaching canadiates if they see Gus treated that way. We aren’t paying him $7M per year to be a good Christian man. We pay him that Top Ten money to have a Top Ten team and to at least break even with our top three rivals. Other coaches understand that getting beat by your rivals 5 out of 7 years will get you fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUApostle 7,651 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 10 hours ago, Quietmaninthecorner said: The point is not so much the humiliation as it is to get him to quit on his own or work for his buyout. $20 million is more than enough compensation for some humiliation. If he is such "good Christian man " and not just hypocrisy hidden behind a veil of Christianity may be he should just use a simple " thank you Auburn for the opportunity and money" and cancel the buyout clause and mutually part ways. It is enough money to fight for. I think we should. Hell Arkansas is fighting Beliema and they outright fired the guy. Would you ever want to work for a company that treats their contracted employees that way? Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Good responses....Auburn doing what is right...JABA 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnell 592 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 11 hours ago, around4ever said: We aren’t paying him $7M per year to be a good Christian man. We pay him that Top Ten money to have a Top Ten team and to at least break even with our top three rivals. Other coaches understand that getting beat by your rivals 5 out of 7 years will get you fired. I never said we were paying him top ten money to be a Christian. I was stating that humiliating gus was not the way to go because it would affect us with coaching canadiates. I am not a gus fan no one on these boards is a bigger gus critic than me. But either fire gus immediately, wait until the buyout is more reasonable, force gus to hire a qualified offensive staff or work behind the scene to try to renegotiate the buyout down and part ways but humiliating gus is a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,826 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/17/2019 at 6:09 AM, Quietmaninthecorner said: I don't know s*** about coaching contracts, but .... Since we have to pay gus the buyout if we fire him, couldn't we just demote him? Make him clean toilets, put him on stadium clean up duty after games (all sports), clean up toomers after a win, all the s***ty jobs that we can think of and replace that bum with a coach . Give him the most humiliating jobs at Auburn. Students can taunt him till he quits. Since we will have to pay that bum anyway, we may as well put him to work! Don't fire him, change his workplace responsibilities. Put him on graveyard shift. Demote his s***ty ass. If you want no one to ever take a job at AU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUpreacherman22 3,879 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/17/2019 at 7:40 AM, around4ever said: Gus is a good family man. He is a Christian man. He treats all people around him very well. He does not deserve to be humiliated or demoted. A simple ‘thank you for all the good things you have done for Auburn University and the football program but it’s time for us to go in another direction. Here’s your check. We wish you the best’ will be the way to do it. I fully support this statement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn4ever 1,266 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Cleaning toilets huh? that's a good one. It fits him since he's done a scrappy coaching job during the last 6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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