2020 ESD Discussion Thread

[bigbird 60,359]

4 minutes ago, Tigerpro2a said:

Can someone clarify the difference in our "Buck" and a typical DE? Is it just a terminology thing? Is Buck just a DE that is more for Pass Rushing? 

I guess I don't get why we call it a Buck like it's something different than a normal DE. I would understand if they lined up a traditional LB spot every now and then but they seem to just be a WDE.

Our Buck in a typical 3-4 is an OLB. We just attach him and he plays with his hand in the dirt most of the time. Only a few times have I actually seen them drop into coverage.

[ellitor 33,062]

4 minutes ago, Tigerpro2a said:

Can someone clarify the difference in our "Buck" and a typical DE? Is it just a terminology thing? Is Buck just a DE that is more for Pass Rushing? 

I guess I don't get why we call it a Buck like it's something different than a normal DE. I would understand if they lined up a traditional LB spot every now and then but they seem to just be a WDE.

A Buck is a pass rushing/weakside end. The standard end is a strongside & historically more run stopping style end.

[Zeek 16,578]

1 minute ago, bigbird said:

Our Buck in a typical 3-4 is an OLB. We just attach him and he plays with his hand in the dirt most of the time. Only a few times have I actually seen them drop into coverage.

Yup, though it would be nice against RB swings (we're super susceptible to) or even chipping the drag/slants coming across the middle (where we're typically not covering)

[bigbird 60,359]

2 minutes ago, Zeek said:

Yup, though it would be nice against RB swings (we're super susceptible to) or even chipping the drag/slants coming across the middle (where we're typically not covering)

Zone vs man coverages. That's why it's so easy to manipulate our LBs

[AU64 10,122]

6 minutes ago, ellitor said:

It's actually the opposite. Most if not all teams have at least 1 signee spot left with at least 1 or more needs in February so the kids who wait to sign in February become much more valuable & sought after. Roger McCreary for example was committed to South Alabama but AU pushed for & landed him in February. Tennessee came after him hard too.

If you say so....I just recall some kids getting "grey shirt" offers from a school or two....but I guess that's rare....but maybe guys committed to lower schools can wait around a find a major schools with a few slots open....

[Zeek 16,578]

1 minute ago, bigbird said:

Zone vs man coverages. That's why it's so easy to manipulate our LBs

Combo coverages are allowed... right? lol

[Tigerpro2a 5,650]

4 minutes ago, bigbird said:

Our Buck in a typical 3-4 is an OLB. We just attach him and he plays with his hand in the dirt most of the time. Only a few times have I actually seen them drop into coverage.

That's what I thought. Just wanted some clarity.  So our base scheme is like a 4-2-5? 

[bigbird 60,359]

3 minutes ago, Tigerpro2a said:

That's what I thought. Just wanted some clarity.  So our base scheme is like a 4-2-5? 

90+% of the time

[Auburn Kev 1,653]

 

[Zeek 16,578]

2 minutes ago, Tigerpro2a said:

That's what I thought. Just wanted some clarity.  So our base scheme is like a 4-2-5? 

Technically, no.

Realistically, yes.

The only time we have 3 LBs out is when it's an obvious run situation or the team is an I-type formation or other "strong" formations.

[ellitor 33,062]

5 minutes ago, AU64 said:

If you say so....I just recall some kids getting "grey shirt" offers from a school or two....but I guess that's rare....but maybe guys committed to lower schools can wait around a find a major schools with a few slots open....

That's likely for kids who weren't committed to a school in most cases & the school ran out of scholly room under the 85 or 25 limits.

[Tigerpro2a 5,650]

2 minutes ago, Zeek said:

Technically, no.

 

So are you saying our base is actually a 4-3? I know that 80% of the time we only have 2 LBs.....so what would our base scheme be "technically"?

[ellitor 33,062]

8 minutes ago, AU64 said:

If you say so

Not being snarky here. Just stating reality...I love how you always question the guy who eats, drinks, & sleeps recruiting.

[Tigerpro2a 5,650]

Is there anywhere to watch Height or Walker?

[ellitor 33,062]

2 minutes ago, Tigerpro2a said:

So are you saying our base is actually a 4-3? I know that 80% of the time we only have 2 LBs.....so what would our base scheme be "technically"?

No it's a 4-2-5 as you said & Bird reiterated.

[Carnell 592]

8 minutes ago, Zeek said:

Yup, though it would be nice against RB swings (we're super susceptible to) or even chipping the drag/slants coming across the middle (where we're typically not covering)

The Miami Dolphins had a defense similar to that.  It was called the 57 defense named for the Jersey # of bob Mathias that  made the defense famous.  He could put put his hand down and be a buck/de or he could stand up and be a linebacker for pass coverage or picking up a running back.  From shula describing the D it was up to Mathias as to which position he was going to assume.

[ellitor 33,062]

2 minutes ago, Tigerpro2a said:

Is there anywhere to watch Height or Walker?

I don't see anything.

[Auburn Kev 1,653]

 

[AU64 10,122]

4 minutes ago, ellitor said:

Not being snarky here. Just stating reality...I love how you always question the guy who eats, drinks, & sleeps recruiting.

Sorry, I appreciate what you do but you are not infallible and don't always see the bigger picture IMO.  But keep up the good work...

[bigbird 60,359]

9 minutes ago, Tigerpro2a said:

So are you saying our base is actually a 4-3? I know that 80% of the time we only have 2 LBs.....so what would our base scheme be "technically"?

3-4 playing nickel with an attached OLB

[Zeek 16,578]

2 minutes ago, Auburn Kev said:

 

Ugh, our DT recruiting needed him bad

[ALLINtheFamily 77]

6 minutes ago, AU64 said:

Sorry, I appreciate what you do but you are not infallible and don't always see the bigger picture IMO.  But keep up the good work...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ellitor 33,062]

2 minutes ago, Zeek said:

Ugh, our DT recruiting needed him bad

Not really. We have Hardy committed, Likely will play DFA at DT some, & will either sign McKinnley Jackson or likely bring in a GT or sign juco Burks.

[ClaytonAU 4,606]

8 minutes ago, AU64 said:

Sorry, I appreciate what you do but you are not infallible and don't always see the bigger picture IMO.  But keep up the good work...

64 come on man. Take that somewhere else. 

[AuburnTiger4Life 2,225]

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