McLoofus 35,182 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 35 minutes ago, shabby said: Ending the season ranked 14th isn't a moral victory its a victory. I'd really like to hear more about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUGoo 2,659 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 hours ago, dyehardfanAU said: Best 4 loss team in the country! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leglessdan 1,934 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 6 hours ago, aucanucktiger said: Six teams on our schedule FINISHED in the top 10. We started and ended the regular season by beating a team that finished in the top 10. We lost to the national champion final by 3, #4 & #10 by a TD and #6 by 11 (notwithstanding Derrick tripping on a blade of grass). I don't rant about refs but man oh man if they just called HALF the holding of Davidson & Brown by UF, UGa and/or (especially) LSU... Are you trying to rub salt in the wound? I'm not into moral victories. Two teams that we beat ranked higher than us. I'm struggling to find the positives in all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabby 1,956 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 14th is a good not great finish for a team with a freshman qb. The hyperbole is everyone makes it out as a terrible season or a mediocre season. It was not. It was a good season. That was a few close games away from being a great season as the original post stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr82b4au 5,568 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 3 hours ago, McLoofus said: I'm just that much more frustrated that our self-appointed play caller turned a playoff-caliber team into a 4-loss team. Again. I am with you. It made me angry watching that game last night. What could have been... I have come to the realization that we will always be good with Gus but never elite. Just OK. Next year we will win 8-9 games again, rinse and repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, shabby said: 14th is a good not great finish for a team with a freshman qb. The hyperbole is everyone makes it out as a terrible season or a mediocre season. It was not. It was a good season. That was a few close games away from being a great season as the original post stated. I'm sorry, but in modern college football, the freshman/young QB thing at a major school is a crutch that doesn't work anymore. Some examples: - Jake Fromm won the SEC and went to the natty as a freshman. - Tua led a massive comeback in the natty and won the game for Bama as a freshman. - Trevor Lawrence won it all as a freshman. - Justin Fields had limited playing time at UGA. Took Ohio State to the playoffs as a sophomore. - Jalen Hurts was a true freshman when he started at Bama in 2016 and took them to the title game. In today's game, you can either play or you can't. And if the excuse is "well we started a freshman QB", then all blame and concern needs to go to those whose job includes roster management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, shabby said: 14th is a good not great finish for a team with a freshman qb. The hyperbole is everyone makes it out as a terrible season or a mediocre season. It was not. It was a good season. That was a few close games away from being a great season as the original post stated. You realize this was our head coach's 7th season, right? He doesn't get to blame the roster. Also, as @Brad_ATX pointed out, several other extremely successful teams have also played freshman QBs. Why didn't they lose 4 games, also? One more thing. We had a championship caliber unit on this team. It wasn't the one that our head coach has micromanaged into abject mediocrity. Our defense was good enough to win every game but we still managed to lose four games because of our offense. The same guy who's been calling the shots for 7 years. You call that victory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, gr82b4au said: I am with you. It made me angry watching that game last night. What could have been... I have come to the realization that we will always be good with Gus but never elite. Just OK. Next year we will win 8-9 games again, rinse and repeat. Imagine thinking that's a known quantity too precious to risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye67 1,937 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, shabby said: Ending the season ranked 14th isn't a moral victory its a victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabby 1,956 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said: I'm sorry, but in modern college football, the freshman/young QB thing at a major school is a crutch that doesn't work anymore. Some examples: - Jake Fromm won the SEC and went to the natty as a freshman. - Tua led a massive comeback in the natty and won the game for Bama as a freshman. - Trevor Lawrence won it all as a freshman. - Justin Fields had limited playing time at UGA. Took Ohio State to the playoffs as a sophomore. - Jalen Hurts was a true freshman when he started at Bama in 2016 and took them to the title game. In today's game, you can either play or you can't. And if the excuse is "well we started a freshman QB", then all blame and concern needs to go to those whose job includes roster management. Oh so we didnt have a freshman phenom surrounded by the best receivers and offensive line in the nation. Oh lordy Why didnt we finish 1st. Yall are ridiculous. Sorry. Not everyone gets to be number one. We got there in 2010 and real close in 2013. Gus played a huge part in that. I'm okay with top 20 finishes with shots at glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 19 minutes ago, shabby said: I'm okay with top 20 finishes with shots at glory. Congrats on having your kind of coach leading the team. Although I'm not sure about the shots at glory thing. Last time was 6 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,368 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, shabby said: Ending the season ranked 14th isn't a moral victory its a victory. That is one of the most beautiful, perfectly stated examples of a loser's mentality. Thank you. 14th is a victory? Just wow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker 2,457 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, shabby said: Oh so we didnt have a freshman phenom surrounded by the best receivers and offensive line in the nation. Oh lordy Why didnt we finish 1st. Yall are ridiculous. Sorry. Not everyone gets to be number one. We got there in 2010 and real close in 2013. Gus played a huge part in that. I'm okay with top 20 finishes with shots at glory. We probably saw games quite differently this year. We lost by small margins to higher ranked teams (except Minn), but if you look at how we lost and how easy it was for the opposing Def Coordinator to outcoach Gus, then you would understand. In my opinion only Georgia and LSU had equal or better talent on the field than Auburn. 2010 is a faded memory of how Gus called plays vs. today. The rules have changed that have minimized the HUNH and Gus doesn't adjust or update his approach. Coaches know how to negate our HUNH based on how Gus calls plays (very predictable). 2013 showcased the quickest and fastest QB any P5 team has ever produced, before the rules changed. If Gus doesn't change, adapt, we won't see another "shot at glory." That is the point people are making. "You are what your record says you are." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye67 1,937 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, bigbird said: That is one of the most beautiful, perfectly stated examples of a loser's mentality. Thank you. 14th is a victory? Just wow... We ended up better than Iowa! So there! 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,368 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Just now, EagleEye67 said: We ended up better than Iowa! So there! 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_M4_AU 7,762 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, gr82b4au said: I am with you. It made me angry watching that game last night. What could have been... I have come to the realization that we will always be good with Gus but never elite. Just OK. Next year we will win 8-9 games again, rinse and repeat. We really need to look at the positives going into the hype season. You mentioned the game last night and it was very impressive the way LSU’s offense adjusted on the fly to take a lead gong into the half. Their defense, in the second half, was great save the first drive from Clemson. As I sit here and type I am convinced that Gus, by way of CCM, sees the possibilities an offense similar to LSU’s will put him and his offense into the elite category. Book it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Hollow AU 64 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I got a positive. Our previous qb would run around and get sacked because no one was open. This year, our qb would run around and throw it out of bounds because no one was open. Am I doing this right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger 8,817 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagle1983 2,185 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Tiger said: Now i'm really depressed. Go Bruce GO! Save us BP and AU Basketball! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, Tiger said: I don't believe that we actually threw that many? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsixfive 327 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 We had 54 TDs total this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oracle79 3,569 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, shabby said: Why didnt we finish 1st. Yall are ridiculous. Sorry. Not everyone gets to be number one. ...real close in 2013. Gus played a huge part in that. I'm okay with top 20 finishes with shots at glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,955 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, shabby said: I'm okay with top 20 finishes with shots at glory. Majority of us here are not. You will be the minority. Guess you will have to deal with the griping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeleagle 2,945 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 5 hours ago, gr82be said: Does this mean Auburn gets a participation trophy for our case? I know it was a difficult schedule but we still didn't win anything. Great teams beat other great teams. Otherwise your just a good team. We're paying for greatness and we're getting "but we were so close". After watching LSU in the Championship, and seeing what they felt they had to do to get their offense to complement their defense, we will never get past 'but we were so close' until we redesign our offense....period. Remember when we used to look back at LSU, and they were similar to us for most of their seasons. Great defenses and sputtering offenses. They always seemed to have the stud RBs, but their QB play or the passing schemes cost them getting past ' but we were so close'. We recruit well. We have good solid very good to great defenses. Special teams have been top level over the last 10 years. But our offense will keep us ranked in that 11-15 range, and out of the playoff hunt until we change like so many of our competition has done over the last 5-10 years(Alabama and LSU). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atl-tiger 655 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 49 minutes ago, Tiger said: We're the new Georgia Tech! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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