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So I have 2 questions. 

The first being ....with CCM steming his Offense from CGM in the old high school days....I know that Chad's passing schemes and route trees are much more evolved. I know he likes to utilize the TE's a lot and the middle of the field. How do they differ in the run game? 

2nd question is ... Whats the measurement for success next year for you all as fans? We are replacing a lot. Is it 8-4? 9-3? Is it win 10 games? Is it have a 3,000 yard QB and a 1,000 rusher and receiver? 

For me I guess I will feel like its a success if I see adequate improvement from Bo in his accuracy and deep balls. Better play design around our weak spots. I think if he we can get 10 win next year it could set us up for a heck of a good chance in 2021 or 2022 to make a run.

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5 hours ago, Tigerpro2a said:

So I have 2 questions. 

The first being ....with CCM steming his Offense from CGM in the old high school days....I know that Chad's passing schemes and route trees are much more evolved. I know he likes to utilize the TE's a lot and the middle of the field. How do they differ in the run game? 

2nd question is ... Whats the measurement for success next year for you all as fans? We are replacing a lot. Is it 8-4? 9-3? Is it win 10 games? Is it have a 3,000 yard QB and a 1,000 rusher and receiver? 

For me I guess I will feel like its a success if I see adequate improvement from Bo in his accuracy and deep balls. Better play design around our weak spots. I think if he we can get 10 win next year it could set us up for a heck of a good chance in 2021 or 2022 to make a run.

8-4 should never be a measurement for success, even if we have to replace people. He should be averaging 9 wins per season at Minimal. 

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9 hours ago, Tigerpro2a said:

So I have 2 questions. 

The first being ....with CCM steming his Offense from CGM in the old high school days....I know that Chad's passing schemes and route trees are much more evolved. I know he likes to utilize the TE's a lot and the middle of the field. How do they differ in the run game? 

2nd question is ... Whats the measurement for success next year for you all as fans? We are replacing a lot. Is it 8-4? 9-3? Is it win 10 games? Is it have a 3,000 yard QB and a 1,000 rusher and receiver? 

For me I guess I will feel like its a success if I see adequate improvement from Bo in his accuracy and deep balls. Better play design around our weak spots. I think if he we can get 10 win next year it could set us up for a heck of a good chance in 2021 or 2022 to make a run.

For me, if a loss, it depends on how we look and compete. Losses occur, especially in our division, but they can be close, hard fought down to the wire games. I can accept those. I can't accept losses due to bad schemes, bad play calls, and poor adjustments. 

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9 hours ago, Tigerpro2a said:

So I have 2 questions. 

The first being ....with CCM steming his Offense from CGM in the old high school days....I know that Chad's passing schemes and route trees are much more evolved. I know he likes to utilize the TE's a lot and the middle of the field. How do they differ in the run game? 

2nd question is ... Whats the measurement for success next year for you all as fans? We are replacing a lot. Is it 8-4? 9-3? Is it win 10 games? Is it have a 3,000 yard QB and a 1,000 rusher and receiver? 

For me I guess I will feel like its a success if I see adequate improvement from Bo in his accuracy and deep balls. Better play design around our weak spots. I think if he we can get 10 win next year it could set us up for a heck of a good chance in 2021 or 2022 to make a run.

I think 9 wins with improvement from Bo and the OL should be expected. 10 wins is a real possibility. 

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43 minutes ago, bigbird said:

For me, if a loss, it depends on how we look and compete. Losses occur, especially in our division, but they can be close, hard fought down to the wire games. I can accept those. I can't accept losses due to bad schemes, bad play calls, and poor adjustments. 

This. 

For me, the 2014 Iron Bowl was an example of an acceptable loss. Not only because of what happened, but because of what happened next. We hung damned near half a hundred points on a really good bama defense and should have won if not for a defensive coordinator who was not fully in control of his own defense and who had checked out much earlier in the season. (In fact, certain aspects of that defensive performance almost felt like double-middle fingers from him on his way out the door.) We did not lose because of Gus's offense and in fact should have won because of Gus's offense. And he fixed the defense with one massive hire soon after.

On the other end of the spectrum, Gus won 10 games, beat two number one teams and had the league's leading rusher in 2017 and still managed to make it suck.

 

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2 hours ago, bigbird said:

For me, if a loss, it depends on how we look and compete. Losses occur, especially in our division, but they can be close, hard fought down to the wire games. I can accept those. I can't accept losses due to bad schemes, bad play calls, and poor adjustments. 

Why hasn't this been pinned and made required reading for the squad and any others who can't understand this very simple concept?

If they would TRY to objectively understand this, there'd be a lot more agreement.

But, some just want to whine about whining....

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21 minutes ago, AUsince72 said:

Why hasn't this been pinned and made required reading for the squad and any others who can't understand this very simple concept?

If they would TRY to objectively understand this, there'd be a lot more agreement.

But, some just want to whine about whining....

Pretty sure we're due for a "y'all say Gus calls the bad plays and the OC calls the good ones" post. It's been over an hour. 

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7 hours ago, AuburnEagle79 said:

I think 9 wins with improvement from Bo and the OL should be expected. 10 wins is a real possibility. 

That is where I am as far as record. I think the schedule sets up fairly nice...a lot better than 2019. I think this year's success IMOO will be measured more on how we look vs overall record. I want to see change. If I see change in the OFF and effort to adapt I can accept the outcome. IMO this will directly impact the success of our record a well.

12 hours ago, DAG said:

8-4 should never be a measurement for success, even if we have to replace people. He should be averaging 9 wins per season at Minimal. 

I agree. I just want to know what everyone is looking to see this year to call the Chad Morris Hire a success.

7 hours ago, bigbird said:

For me, if a loss, it depends on how we look and compete. Losses occur, especially in our division, but they can be close, hard fought down to the wire games. I can accept those. I can't accept losses due to bad schemes, bad play calls, and poor adjustments. 

Agree 100%

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28 minutes ago, Tigerpro2a said:

I agree. I just want to know what everyone is looking to see this year to call the Chad Morris Hire a success.

Finishing in the top 25 in total offense and scoring offense might be enough for me. 

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6 hours ago, McLoofus said:

Finishing in the top 25 in total offense and scoring offense might be enough for me. 

It would be a huge step in the right direction.  The last time we were Top 25 in total offense was in 2014.

Gus has cracked the Top 25 in scoring offense twice, once in 2017 and then back in 2013.

Yet somehow the myth of an elite offensive mind hangs around like a stray dog.

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On 1/21/2020 at 5:44 PM, Win4AU said:

If the offense flows this year do you fire Gus and promote Chad?  Why would you need Gus anymore?

I say no.  If it works then let Chad stay OC until Gus works off the buyout before any move should be made.

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40 minutes ago, Carnell said:

I say no.  If it works then let Chad stay OC until Gus works off the buyout before any move should be made.

I was half joking to see what responses I’d get.  That being said I don’t think Chad got a Completely fair shake at Arkansas.  He basically was asked to do a complete rebuild and fired after 2 recruiting classes.  His first one was one of the best they’d had in awhile.  The losses he had the past two years weren’t great but I don’t know what Arkansas people were expecting at this point?  He was bringing in some serious skill talent and starting a lot of under class men.  Anyways.  Go Tigers

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9 hours ago, McLoofus said:

This. 

For me, the 2014 Iron Bowl was an example of an acceptable loss. Not only because of what happened, but because of what happened next. We hung damned near half a hundred points on a really good bama defense and should have won if not for a defensive coordinator who was not fully in control of his own defense and who had checked out much earlier in the season. (In fact, certain aspects of that defensive performance almost felt like double-middle fingers from him on his way out the door.) We did not lose because of Gus's offense and in fact should have won because of Gus's offense. And he fixed the defense with one massive hire soon after.

On the other end of the spectrum, Gus won 10 games, beat two number one teams and had the league's leading rusher in 2017 and still managed to make it suck.

 

That was still a huge GUS GONNA GUS game for me. We were horrendous in the RZ in the first half that game. We should of been up by 3 TDs going in to halftime......... That loss still bothers me.

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1 hour ago, GwillMac6 said:

That was still a huge GUS GONNA GUS game for me. We were horrendous in the RZ in the first half that game. We should of been up by 3 TDs going in to halftime......... That loss still bothers me.

Well, I tried...

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Success would  have us in the running for the SEC West championship into late November.  We only have 3 games in 2020.  And all three of those opponents brake in new QB's and have a lot of change.  Not gonna get a much better competitive/schedule angle.   We should win these games based on our offensive performance because we just hired Gus's prime choise for OC; and our sure fire; can't miss; legacy QB improves his completion percent above Phil Gargis's level.    Our defense shoudn't go from first to worst.

Qualitatively; success is  I don't spend 1/2 of every game going "what the hell was he thinking" along with everyone on this board.

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On 1/22/2020 at 4:56 PM, oracle79 said:

Man if I had a nickel for every year I heard that, I'd have a quarter.

Then you could of called someone that cares.

If I had a nickel for every time you reminded me of your disdain for Texas I could of bought out Gus and brought in Belicheck. 🤪

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12 hours ago, SumterAubie said:

"Auburn HC Gus Malzahn just said here in Mobile that new OC Chad Morris will have full control of the offense in 2020 and will call plays"

 

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11 hours ago, japantiger said:

Qualitatively; success is  I don't spend 1/2 of every game going "what the hell was he thinking" along with everyone on this board.

Excellent way to put it...along with Bird's previous post.

A play here or there....even a series of "WTF?" are understandable (nobody's perfect).

But ENTIRE sections of game....quarters.....halves.....even virtually ENTIRE games of "what is he DOING!?!?!?" are the primary bugaboos we "haters" have problems with.

And the fact that he has a MINIMUM of 4 of those games per year since '13 (WITHOUT FAIL) are why most of us are over Gus.

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On 1/22/2020 at 9:41 PM, Tigerpro2a said:

So I have 2 questions. 

The first being ....with CCM steming his Offense from CGM in the old high school days....I know that Chad's passing schemes and route trees are much more evolved. I know he likes to utilize the TE's a lot and the middle of the field. How do they differ in the run game? 

2nd question is ... Whats the measurement for success next year for you all as fans? We are replacing a lot. Is it 8-4? 9-3? Is it win 10 games? Is it have a 3,000 yard QB and a 1,000 rusher and receiver? 

For me I guess I will feel like its a success if I see adequate improvement from Bo in his accuracy and deep balls. Better play design around our weak spots. I think if he we can get 10 win next year it could set us up for a heck of a good chance in 2021 or 2022 to make a run.

With Chad on board... I dunno.

Before that hire I was expecting the 2020 season to be a 6 win season, losing to LSU, BAMA, UGA, A&M, and 2 of the 4 'meh' games of NC, KY, or mississippis.... and that would be enough to pony up the cash for the buyout.

 

I don't expect Chad to turn this '20 squad into world beaters, but with any luck Auburn will get another 8-9 win season, and Gus will hang around another year.... and billions of groans will sound out from aufamily.com.

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11 minutes ago, Mims44 said:

With Chad on board... I dunno.

Before that hire I was expecting the 2020 season to be a 6 win season, losing to LSU, BAMA, UGA, A&M, and 2 of the 4 'meh' games of NC, KY, or mississippis.... and that would be enough to pony up the cash for the buyout.

 

I don't expect Chad to turn this '20 squad into world beaters, but with any luck Auburn will get another 8-9 win season, and Gus will hang around another year.... and billions of groans will sound out from aufamily.com.

Please tell me you're not resigned to an 8 or 9 win 2020 season in what should be one of the best opportunities since that last time Gus wasted a great opportunity to win the West!?!?!?!?!  Please tell me you're not there already ?????????  Before Spring training?  We only have 3 games next year.  LSU looses 15 starters and a once in a generation QB.  Alabama either 12 or 13 and the best QB they've had since Stabler.   GA, same....if we can't expect to win this year; it ain't gonna happen.  

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18 hours ago, Win4AU said:

I was half joking to see what responses I’d get.  That being said I don’t think Chad got a Completely fair shake at Arkansas.  He basically was asked to do a complete rebuild and fired after 2 recruiting classes.  His first one was one of the best they’d had in awhile.  The losses he had the past two years weren’t great but I don’t know what Arkansas people were expecting at this point?  He was bringing in some serious skill talent and starting a lot of under class men.  Anyways.  Go Tigers

I think they took a step down when they got rid of him. He inherited a dumpster fire and a roster that wasn’t capable of running the offense he does. One more year and I think they would have significant improvement. At least the new guy has more talent to work with than Morris had, I’ll wager they give him quite the grace period after this mess. 

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