Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Very likely a violation of the STOCK Act. Seeing where as many as five legislators are being named. Most prominent so far is Burr. Kelly Loeffler and Ron Johnson have also been named. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/north-carolina-sen-richard-burr-sold-off-stock/story?id=69699666 https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kelly-loeffler-coronavirus-stock.amp https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/third-gop-senator-caught-dumping-stock-before-the-market-crash-this-time-up-to-25-million-worth/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,147 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Tucker Carlson, to his credit, hammered Burr tonight. I hate agreeing with him. It's like trying to write left handed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countoff 331 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I'm not a lawyer and don't fully understand the nuances of "Insider Trading" versus "Knowledgeable Trading". I thought "Insider Trading" was when an individual acts on proprietary information of a specific company action that would significantly affect stock price. However, it seems to me that a Congressman would have more exposure to the information about the general magnitude of the problem and deduce projected company actions than someone like me who only has the nightly news and internet as his information sources. I'm jealous of their access to information. But I'm hesitant to call it "Insider Trading". Anyway, I would have to hear a little more about the details to pass judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I’m shy on details too. I don’t have time to read all the links. But it appears to be just a smart timely move to me. We know trump was lying to keep markets strong. Maybe he had a heads up that trump was going to start taking it seriously. Or that bodies were going to start piling and it wouldn’t matter. I’m curious to see how it could be a violation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,362 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Beat me to it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-richard-burr-r-nc-head-of-powerful-committee-sold-large-amount-of-stocks-before-sharp-declines-in-market/2020/03/19/6cf4b25a-6a31-11ea-9923-57073adce27c_story.html ".....As head of the powerful Intelligence Committee, Burr reportedly was receiving daily briefings on the threat of the virus. In mid-February, he sold 33 stocks held by him and his spouse, estimated at between $628,033 and $1.72 million, Senate financial disclosures show. It was the largest number of stocks he had sold in one day since at least 2016, records show. The Feb. 13 stock sales were first reported by the Center for Responsive Politics. Then, at a Feb. 27 luncheon, Burr compared the potential impact of the novel coronavirus to the deadly 1918 flu pandemic. His remarks at the private event were obtained by NPR and aired Thursday. “There’s one thing I can tell you about this: It is much more aggressive in its transmission than anything we have seen in recent history,” Burr said, according to the NPR recording, which was not disputed by his staff. “It’s probably more akin to the 1918 pandemic.” Burr’s office declined to answer specific questions about his stock sales. About a week after those sales, the stock market sharply declined......." "......Insider trading prohibitions apply to all members of Congress, congressional staff and other federal officials, under the Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge (STOCK) Act of 2012. Burr was among three senators who voted against the legislation at the time......" "........Also under scrutiny were sales by Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R-Ga.) and her husband, Jeffrey Sprecher, the chairman of the New York Stock Exchange, as well as Sens. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and James M. Inhofe (R-Okla.)......" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 3 hours ago, alexava said: I’m shy on details too. I don’t have time to read all the links. But it appears to be just a smart timely move to me. We know trump was lying to keep markets strong. Maybe he had a heads up that trump was going to start taking it seriously. Or that bodies were going to start piling and it wouldn’t matter. I’m curious to see how it could be a violation. It wasn't. The moves were made right after Burr was in closed door briefing on the virus long before it really hit here. That's illegal according to the STOCK Act, as government officials cannot trade stocks for profit based on non-public information. Loeffler actually sold her stocks and then immediately bought stock in a teleconference company after the briefing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,362 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/20/three-big-takeaways-stunning-gop-stock-selling-revelations/ Three big takeaways from the stunning GOP stock-selling revelations By Greg Sargent Opinion writer We already know President Trump spent weeks misleading the country by playing down the potential impact of the coronavirus, at a time when many officials in his government surely knew what a dire threat it posed to our social arrangements, to the economy, and to the health and well-being of the American people. Now the focus is shifting to what Republican elected officials knew and when — which means the stain of this story may now spread to the GOP writ large. That’s the immediate significance of the stunning news that Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) dumped a large share of his stocks last month. The revelations raise questions about whether private briefings that Burr, the chair of the Intelligence Committee, received from Trump officials about the scale of the threat might have influenced the financial move. As The Post summarizes: Burr reportedly was receiving daily briefings on the threat of the virus. In mid-February, he sold 33 stocks held by him and his spouse, estimated at between $628,033 and $1.72 million, Senate financial disclosures show. It was the largest number of stocks he had sold in one day since at least 2016, records show. Making this potentially worse, that same month, Burr privately advised a group of well-connected players that the coronavirus threat was very alarming — “akin to the 1918 pandemic” — even as Trump was publicly downplaying it. Meanwhile, similar revelations are now ensnaring Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R-Ga.), who also dumped stocks worth millions not long after she and other senators were briefed by administration officials on the coronavirus threat. Loeffler is claiming such decisions are made by a third party. Here are three takeaways: Burr’s ‘defense’ actually indicts Trump. One of Burr’s claims in his and Trump’s defense is that it’s unfair to claim daylight between Burr’s private warnings about the coronavirus and Trump’s downplaying of it. Burr is pointing to a briefing that Trump and administration officials gave in late February, suggesting that this showed that they warned Americans about the need to “begin making plans” for serious inconveniences to come. But that very same briefing from Trump and his officials actually shows them vastly downplaying the threat and vastly inflating the success of their own efforts. Jennifer Rubin: Is Trump implicated in Richard Burr’s 'moral crime’? In it, Trump declared that their strategy was already having “tremendous success, beyond what people thought.” And multiple other officials also hailed the “success” of their containment strategy. We now know this was the opposite of the truth — the threat was not remotely contained, and the administration’s failures were to blame for it. Burr’s own defense actually shows that the administration was dramatically misleading the public, even as Burr privately warned that the situation was far more dire. Burr is declining to directly answer questions about the stock sales. But even if you grant that his motives were pure, that cannot expunge the other problem here: that Republicans like him knew in real time that things were surely much worse than Trump was publicly allowing, and likely knew that the administration’s strategy was not remotely matched to the threat. One Democratic senator — Dianne Feinstein of California — also sold stock. Her spokesman claims that all of her assets are in a blind trust. But for all we know, more Democrats may have done this. (Feinstein should be investigated to confirm this.) The point here for our purposes, though, is that the stock sales are only one piece of this story. The other thing that makes this story scandalous is that officials knew things were far worse than Trump was saying publicly. And Burr is clearly on the hook for that. This illustrates the need for serious reform. One big question is whether Burr violated federal laws against lawmakers using inside information to profit. But that aside, it’s clear that this story underscores the case for new laws that limit the degree to which federal lawmakers are permitted to own stocks at all. Progressives in Congress have already introduced legislation that would ban stock ownership by members of Congress, top congressional staff and Cabinet secretaries while serving. Noah Bookbinder, the executive director of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, told me these revelations illustrate the scale of the problem — and why the current ban on trading on inside knowledge isn’t enough to ensure public confidence that officials are acting in the public interest, rather than in their own. “If members simply don't own or trade assets that could conflict with their jobs or be related to non-public briefings,” Bookbinder said, “there will be no temptation for them to profit from information they learn on the job, and no reason for the public to doubt their motivations.” It’s time to figure out what lawmakers knew, and when. Another big question raised by this story is this: What, exactly, were lawmakers told in their private administration briefings, and when were they told it? Burr reportedly got daily briefings from the administration on the coronavirus threat. Surely this is one reason he was able to privately warn that things were dire. Yet Burr was also publicly claiming at the time that the United States was “better prepared than ever before” to handle threats such as this one. Obviously that was false — and the question is what Burr had been told by the administration to the contrary. Similarly, the Senate health committee, which Loeffler sits on, also hosted a private all-senators briefing from the administration early on. What did all those senators learn? This line of inquiry goes far beyond Burr and Loeffler. It’s time to dig deeper into what the administration privately told lawmakers in real time about how bad things were going to get — and into how sharply at odds that was with what administration officials and those lawmakers were telling the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,755 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 They. Sold. Their. Stock. They could have made a difference, but they made a profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,894 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 18 hours ago, Brad_ATX said: Very likely a violation of the STOCK Act. Seeing where as many as five legislators are being named. Most prominent so far is Burr. Kelly Loeffler and Ron Johnson have also been named. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/north-carolina-sen-richard-burr-sold-off-stock/story?id=69699666 https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kelly-loeffler-coronavirus-stock.amp https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/third-gop-senator-caught-dumping-stock-before-the-market-crash-this-time-up-to-25-million-worth/ Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) by far the most prominent involved. Regardless, like the coronavirus, politics should be placed aside and justice served. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, AUFAN78 said: Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) by far the most prominent involved. Regardless, like the coronavirus, politics should be placed aside and justice served. Agreed. When I posted this last night, Feinstein's name wasn't out there. Been too busy today with work to update. Any of em who did it though should be prosecuted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,894 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Brad_ATX said: Agreed. When I posted this last night, Feinstein's name wasn't out there. Been too busy today with work to update. Any of em who did it though should be prosecuted. No worries. Agreed. Lock em up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,362 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 The country is so apathetic/jaded, that nothing will happen and no one will care. We expect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj3jordan 2,050 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I say they should all be dismissed, replaced with appointments and/or special elections at first opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,419 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 On 3/20/2020 at 5:28 PM, AUFAN78 said: Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) by far the most prominent involved. Regardless, like the coronavirus, politics should be placed aside and justice served. Not according to homey. It is a broken record watching him post up some DNC Inc propaganda. DF was mentioned in every article by every news source. Which article does Homey bring? The one that conveniently drops her name. Wait a week The HOR story will show up and many more will need to be removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,419 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 11 hours ago, jj3jordan said: I say they should all be dismissed, replaced with appointments and/or special elections at first opportunity. 100% Support. Run them all off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,147 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 On 3/20/2020 at 5:28 PM, AUFAN78 said: Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) by far the most prominent involved. Regardless, like the coronavirus, politics should be placed aside and justice served. Feinstein's trades, like Ron Johnson's, seem a bit more above board, as the biotech company in which she sold shares has little to do with the novel Coronavirus, and she didn't attend the briefing in question. And I don't know how you can argue she's the most prominent when she doesn't chair committees like Burr does, besides tenure. Loeffler and Burr are the ones whose trades most closely align with having an unfair advantage with regard to how the market was going to move. As for whether or not it's insider trading by the letter of the law, well, that's actually a big stretch legally. Burr's behavior in particular is morally reprehensible, but I'll be surprised if it rises to the level of being illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,362 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 8 hours ago, DKW 86 said: Not according to homey. It is a broken record watching him post up some. DNC Inc propaganda. DF was mentioned in every article by every news source. Which article does Homey bring? The one that conveniently drops her name. Wait a week The HOR story will show up and many more will need to be removed. WTH!? You are lying (again) in order to formulate an argument that no one made. I have in no way suggested Feinstein is less guilty than any of the Republicans. I did post an article that quoted her as saying her investments are managed in a blind trust. Considering her husband was also mentioned in her actions, I seriously doubt this was a true blind trust and I am inclined she is just as guilty as anyone else who sold stock on what should have been public knowledge. And which article are you referring to? Every article I have posted mentioned Feinstein. And I even said in my Friday, 1:53pm post (see above) that she needs to be investigated - highlighted in red - to ensure people knew my position.) David you have major issues. Your pathetic need for hyperbole and maniacal thinking (DNC!!!!!!! DNC!!!!!!!! DNC!!!!!!! DNC!!!!!!!!) is hilarious. As someone else said, your "hot/crazy ratio" is way out of wack. But just stop lying about me in the process. It's not necessary. All you have to do to know to confirm my position or thinking on any post or any issue is to ask me. You don't need to simply make something up that's not true. (aka a lie") And once again, you owe me an apology. (as if.....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,362 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 hours ago, AUDub said: Feinstein's trades, like Ron Johnson's, seem a bit more above board, as the biotech company in which she sold shares has little to do with the novel Coronavirus, and she didn't attend the briefing in question. And I don't know how you can argue she's the most prominent when she doesn't chair committees like Burr does, besides tenure. Loeffler and Burr are the ones whose trades most closely align with having an unfair advantage with regard to how the market was going to move. As for whether or not it's insider trading by the letter of the law, well, that's actually a big stretch legally. Burr's behavior in particular is morally reprehensible, but I'll be surprised if it rises to the level of being illegal. The "intelligence committee" no less. (But to clarify for David's sake, I definitely think her actions - along with her husband, Richard C. Blum - need to be investigated to verify her claim it was done under a blind trust.) I agree that - based on what we know - Burr and Loeffler seem to be more obvious cases of transgressing the spirit and letter of the law, especially considering Burr's chairmanship and presumably the confidential briefings that come with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,419 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 15 hours ago, homersapien said: WTH!? You are lying (again) in order to formulate an argument that no one made. I have in no way suggested Feinstein is less guilty than any of the Republicans. I did post an article that quoted her as saying her investments are managed in a blind trust. Considering her husband was also mentioned in her actions, I seriously doubt this was a true blind trust and I am inclined she is just as guilty as anyone else who sold stock on what should have been public knowledge. And which article are you referring to? Every article I have posted mentioned Feinstein. (You are a liar, see below.) And I even said in my Friday, 1:53pm post (see above) that she needs to be investigated - highlighted in red - to ensure people knew my position.) David you have major issues. Your pathetic need for hyperbole and maniacal thinking (DNC!!!!!!! DNC!!!!!!!! DNC!!!!!!! DNC!!!!!!!!) is hilarious. As someone else said, your "hot/crazy ratio" is way out of wack. But just stop lying about me in the process. It's not necessary. All you have to do to know to confirm my position or thinking on any post or any issue is to ask me. You don't need to simply make something up that's not true. (aka a lie") And once again, you owe me an apology. (as if.....) That is the funniest dump truck of guano you have posted in a long time. 1) https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/20/three-big-takeaways-stunning-gop-stock-selling-revelations/ Three big takeaways from the stunning GOP stock-selling revelations The article is blindly ignoring facts and focusing on GOP only, it has one throwaway sentence on DF. 2) https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-richard-burr-r-nc-head-of-powerful-committee-sold-large-amount-of-stocks-before-sharp-declines-in-market/2020/03/19/6cf4b25a-6a31-11ea-9923-57073adce27c_story.html Not even a throw away line on DEM DF. etc etc etc. As usual, you start by consistently posting misleading articles that tell only part, an important part, but only part of the story. Like you do daily. Then you falsely claim that you dont do what you clearly do. You are like our own version of Trump. Feinstein cashed in like the others. No one with a working brain thinks otherwise. They fact that she is now trying to CYA this, and as usual, the MSM is covering for her, is just SSDD. Is this legally proveable? No one is DC is even going to look so even if it was CLEARLY Illegal, they will all get a closed eye investigation and all will be forgotten in a day or so. It is how DC works, for both sides. The difference in the two parties is only a slight difference in degree, if that. homey it is that like i have pointed out many times on this board, you lie so often and so poorly that no one even cares anymore. Question: That I and everyone else here know you wont answer: Is one throwaway line, supposing innocence, equal to whole paragraphs, supposing guilt? (Goebbels would be so proud of you.) I will sit back waiting and mocking the answer you will never give. The answer is that you have only one view. The same view that has made you wrong on Russians!!! Collusion!!! and Impeachment!!! For the last three years you have made crazy statement after crazy statement and been as wrong as anyone on the forum. Trump is still in the WH last I looked. I begged with yall to shut up and focus on the election and..might as well have been talking to a wall. It seems you dont even mind being proved wrong over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,362 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 39 minutes ago, DKW 86 said: That is the funniest dump truck of guano you have posted in a long time. 1) https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/20/three-big-takeaways-stunning-gop-stock-selling-revelations/ Three big takeaways from the stunning GOP stock-selling revelations The article is blindly ignoring facts and focusing on GPO only, it has one throwaway sentence on DF. 2) https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-richard-burr-r-nc-head-of-powerful-committee-sold-large-amount-of-stocks-before-sharp-declines-in-market/2020/03/19/6cf4b25a-6a31-11ea-9923-57073adce27c_story.html Not even a throw away line on DEM DF. etc etc etc. As usual, you start by consistently posting misleading articles that tell only part, an important part, but only part of the story. Like you do daily. Then you falsely claim that you dont do what you clearly do. You are like our own version of Trump. Feinstein cashed in like the others. No one with a working brain thinks otherwise. They fact that she is now trying to CYA this, and as usual, the MS is covering for her, is just SSDD. Is this legally proveable? No one is DC is even going to look so even if it was CLEARLY Illegal, they will all get a closed eye investigation and all will be forgotten in a day or so. It is how DC works, for both sides. The difference in the two parties is only a slight difference in degree, if that. homey it is that like i have pointed out many times on this board, you lie so often and so poorly that no one even cares anymore. Question: That I and everyone else here know you wont answer: Is one throwaway line, supposing innocence, equal to whole paragraphs, supposing guilt? (Goebbels would be so proud of you.) I will sit back waiting and mocking the answer you will never give. The answer is that you have only one view. The same view that has made you wrong on Russians!!! Collusion!!! and Impeachment!!! For the last three years you have made crazy statement after crazy statement and been as wrong as anyone on the forum. Trump is still in the WH last I looked. I begged with yall to shut up and focus on the election and..might as well have been talking to a wall. It seems you dont even mind being proved wrong over and over again. You are ******* crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,419 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 And you, as I predicted, didnt answer the question. This is the easiest test on this forum and you fail almost every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,147 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, DKW 86 said: And you, as I predicted, didnt answer the question. This is the easiest test on this forum and you fail almost every time. This is going too far. Your absolute hate-boner for Homer is a detriment to being taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,419 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 7 hours ago, AUDub said: This is going too far. Your absolute hate-boner for Homer is a detriment to being taken seriously. He just is what he is. He just parrots whatever talking point he is given. He posts dozens and dozens of opinion pieces as if they are fact. And they aften, not all the time, but often just ludicrous. He tried to claim he wasnt just a partisan hack job by saying "The article i linked sighted both Dems and Reps." They did not. One did, it sited one sentence in multiple paragraphs that said "might be maybe DF wasnt involved." I asked one simple question, the doofus will of course never answer. Because he cant. It would be 100% against his intellect to say anything other than talking points. So, he never does. I have asked him dozens of questions as challenges, he has MAYBE tried to answer one. SSDD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,362 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 7 hours ago, DKW 86 said: He just is what he is. He just parrots whatever talking point he is given. He posts dozens and dozens of opinion pieces as if they are fact. And they aften, not all the time, but often just ludicrous. He tried to claim he wasnt just a partisan hack job by saying "The article i linked sighted both Dems and Reps." They did not. One did, it sited one sentence in multiple paragraphs that said "might be maybe DF wasnt involved." I asked one simple question, the doofus will of course never answer. Because he cant. It would be 100% against his intellect to say anything other than talking points. So, he never does. I have asked him dozens of questions as challenges, he has MAYBE tried to answer one. SSDD. I don't "parrot" talking points. I post opinion pieces which I happen to agree with. Other times I post news stories for consideration, without my opinion expressed. (As in the case of the SF Chronicle piece above.) If I post a news article without expressing my opinion, then ask me what's my point or what I think about it. If you want to comment on any point in any opinion piece I post, then do so. We can argue it rationally. But you don't seem interested in a rational discussion. You are so insecure that you are compelled to demonize me instead of engaging in a rational debate. You'd rather make snarky comments before clarifying you don't misunderstand. That manifests emotional dysfunction. As you know, this started well over a year ago with you insisted I was a liar for denying I said something I never said. (Which is why you could not quote it.) Then, after not being able to quote it, you admitted you may have just inferred what you thought I meant. Now, at that point, any rational person would admit they were wrong to call me liar and apologize for doing so. Instead, your emotional insecurity compelled you double down and you've been doubling down ever since. You just cannot admit you were wrong. Ever. So, your own shortcomings have now determined I am your nemesis. Now, you are riding this crazy obsession you have with your assumption about my supposed support for Feinstein's blind trust excuse. As I have already said in several posts, I don't buy it. I don't know it's a lie but, considering her husband was involved in the decision, I suspect her claim is false. (But I could be wrong.) Will you now admit that I had never said anything different? Will you concede that merely posting the link to the article from her home town paper in no way demonstrates I believe her story? No, of course you won't - you'll keep on lying and obsessing I am somehow believe in Feinstein's excuse. After all, I posted an article that contained Feinstein's story! So I must support her, because after all, I am your nemesi! I pity you. You are ******* crazy, and crazy is no way to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,419 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Homey it is not my job to ask your opinions of the crap you post. That’s your job. No one else’s. But given your past mental gymnastics (the above mentioned piece) where you say you randomly changed the subject in the middle of dozens of posts and didn’t tell anyone you did (of course not, that wouldn’t leave you much needed weasel room) and then went back and resumed the conversation. You continue your completely UNBELIEVABLE plea that you changed subjects but did not mention nor point it out at the time. No, as usual, you go for the bs. Mr Party-Line Talking Points posts up a butt kisser of an article that has since been corrected by the SFchron after being called out by yahoo. Now you say you don’t believe Feinstein. Why didn’t you just say that rather than posting up a crap article? You literally had to go dig up a home town shade toss as one of only two articles that mentioned DF. Both articles throw shade on DF. But of course you didn’t mean that. No you question DFs story even while making not one comment on it while post three total articles on the stock sale. But again, oddly, not one of them in any way questioning DF. You know homes, maybe it is just you are a liar, and that’s all there is to it. Occams Razor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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