homersapien 11,352 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Opinion by Jennifer Rubin Columnist July 27, 2020 at 11:00 a.m. EDT No one outside the White House (and not even everyone in it) could honestly believe President Trump’s latest excuse for not showing up for a previously announced event. Trump tweeted on Sunday: Because of my strong focus on the China Virus, including scheduled meetings on Vaccines, our economy and much else, I won’t be able to be in New York to throw out the opening pitch for the @Yankees on August 15th. We will make it later in the season! Yet he finds time for golf, insulting political opponents and watching gobs of TV news? Perhaps he would rather not go to Yankee Stadium because he might not be able to throw the 60 feet and 6 inches from the mound to home plate (certainly the climb down the 10-inch mound is not as treacherous as the West Point ramp). Maybe he shied away because he would have found himself at an event where the players all “take a knee," which has been a regular and warmly received feature in the new and abbreviated season. Whatever the reason, in refusing to go, he is avoiding a place where he’s likely to be confronted by those outside his bubble and be widely mocked. Trump is not a courageous man, as we saw from his flight to the White House bunker during a Black Lives Matter demonstration (and before that, by his unwillingness to sit down with special counsel Robert S. Mueller III). He managed to get out of fighting in Vietnam five times, claiming “bone spurs” for one of them. His new tactic, it appears, is to accept an invitation suggesting that he is welcome in America and then to cancel with a lame excuse. After the disastrous Tulsa rally in June, he promised to go to New Hampshire for another event. He begged off at the last minute, claiming bad weather. (It turned out to be a sunny day.) He’ll be back, he promised! (Before or after he throws out a pitch at Yankee Stadium, do you think?) Trump generally avoids TV interviews other than with Fox News. (After the debacle with Chris Wallace, he might have to further refine his list of acceptable questioners.) He is not courageous enough to leave the cozy confines of “state TV” for a grilling from independent-minded news interviewers. He sure appears to fear showing up where he cannot control the ground rules, determine the person he will sit down with and be confident he can avoid pesky questions. (Disclosure: I am an MSNBC contributor.) That brings us to the presidential debates. Do we think he will show up to the three presidential debates set by the Commission on Presidential Debates? The moderators must be agreed to by both sides, and unless the Democrats want to consent to a Sean Hannity or a Tucker Carlson, they might just have difficulty coming up with someone mutually acceptable. Trump will likely avoid making a decision for as long as possible (as he did with Mueller), then claim it is “rigged” if he cannot bring himself to show up. He might be wise to beg off. It is hard to believe he could stick to whatever time limits are imposed for his debate answers rather than resort to filibustering. He would be in grave peril of getting called out for not answering questions, being fact-checked in real time and finding no place to hide when asked about his serial failures (especially the tens of thousands of Americans who died during the pandemic). He might be asked about any number of scandals. How much did you make from foreigners staying at your hotels? Did you commute Roger Stone’s sentence to keep him from incriminating you? On those rare occasions when Trump has stepped out side the Fox News cocoon, the results have not been pretty. In his interview last year with ABC News chief anchor George Stephanopoulos, who asked Trump whether he would accept foreign help in the next election. Trump’s response ended up being used at his impeachment trial. He simply cannot refrain from damaging himself. I’d put the chances of Trump ducking the debates at about 50-50. I think he would rather throw that pitch before he’d subject himself to debates. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/27/trumps-excuses-are-comical/?hpid=hp_save-opinions-float-right-4-0_opinion-card-a-right%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,761 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 7 hours ago, homersapien said: Trump generally avoids TV interviews other than with Fox News. (After the debacle with Chris Wallace Meanwhile the Biden handlers will not allow him to sit with Wallace for interview. https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/07/26/well-keep-asking-every-week-chris-wallace-says-biden-not-available-for-interview/#6ffddeddf154 Wallace later told colleague Bret Baier, “The fact is, the president is out there. He’s out there in this broiling heat with me for an hour, he took all the questions. You can like his answers or dislike them but he had answers and Joe Biden hasn’t faced that kind of scrutiny, hasn’t faced that kind of exposure.” 7 hours ago, homersapien said: That brings us to the presidential debates. Do we think he will show up to the three presidential debates set by the Commission on Presidential Debates? Will Biden show up is the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,545 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Biden will take all extreme measures possible to avoid debating President Trump. Lets hope the Dems screw up and let Biden do at least one debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,352 Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 14 hours ago, SaltyTiger said: Meanwhile the Biden handlers will not allow him to sit with Wallace for interview. Noticed the polls? Smart campaigning, huh? It's still a long way until Nov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,761 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 9 hours ago, homersapien said: Noticed the polls? Smart campaigning, huh? It's still a long way until Nov. No. Pay little attention to "polls". Smart campaigning by democrats is yes but horrible for the country. I have a big problem with limited choices " a woman of color" as VP. Not saying that a "woman of color" would not make an excellent VP. Appears that democrats want nothing more than tool to garner votes. You and I both understand that Biden has no input. Kamala has been leaked and my bet. Lot of them lobbying for the job.....never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj3jordan 2,039 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 She was getting stoned while arresting and jailing stoners. That won’t play well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 23 hours ago, Mikey said: Biden will take all extreme measures possible to avoid debating President Trump. Lets hope the Dems screw up and let Biden do at least one debate. 1) He's already agreed to 3 debates, as is the standard. 2) If he didn't debate, seems like it would be a page right out of the Tuberville playbook, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,545 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 10 hours ago, Brad_ATX said: 1) He's already agreed to 3 debates, as is the standard. 2) If he didn't debate, seems like it would be a page right out of the Tuberville playbook, no? 1) AU agreed to a 12-game football schedule in 2020. Things change. 2) Difference is, Coach Tuberville could hold his own in a debate, Biden cannot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Mikey said: 1) AU agreed to a 12-game football schedule in 2020. Things change. 2) Difference is, Coach Tuberville could hold his own in a debate, Biden cannot. 1) First debate already has a place and date. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/27/presidential-debate-moved-to-cleveland-382960 2) We have zero evidence that Tubs could hold his own in a debate. He ran from them faster than he ran from recruits at dinner in Lubbock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdefromtx 3,159 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said: 1) First debate already has a place and date. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/27/presidential-debate-moved-to-cleveland-382960 2) We have zero evidence that Tubs could hold his own in a debate. He ran from them faster than he ran from recruits at dinner in Lubbock. Hooters if I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 28 minutes ago, wdefromtx said: Hooters if I recall. I can't see Hooters without thinking about the South Park episode making fun of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,352 Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 17 hours ago, SaltyTiger said: No. Pay little attention to "polls". Smart campaigning by democrats is yes but horrible for the country. That's very ironic coming from someone who actually plans to vote for Trump. (You do plan to vote for him, right?) I have a big problem with limited choices " a woman of color" as VP. Not saying that a "woman of color" would not make an excellent VP. Actually, that's pretty much what you are saying. The VP has historically been chosen with a priority on how it might provide an electoral advantage to the presidential candidate. Appears that democrats want nothing more than tool to garner votes. You and I both understand that Biden has no input. No, I don't accept that at all. And you have zero basis for saying it. Biden won the primary, just like Trump won the primary in 2016. There's no basis for saying either one had "no input" on garnering votes or choosing their VP candidate. (Hell, if that were the case, the Republicans might have rejected Trump's candidacy all together.) Kamala has been leaked and my bet. Lot of them lobbying for the job.....never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,761 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 7 hours ago, homersapien said: The VP has historically been chosen with a priority on how it might provide an electoral advantage to the presidential candidate. Historically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,889 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 7/28/2020 at 8:48 PM, jj3jordan said: She was getting stoned while arresting and jailing stoners. That won’t play well. I wouldn't bet on that. Consider those that might vote for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFAN78 3,889 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 23 hours ago, Brad_ATX said: it would be a page right out of the Tuberville playbook, no? That is a good thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, AUFAN78 said: That is a good thing? Not at all, which is exactly my point. Biden has already committed to Presidential debates and took part in every primary debate. Tubs ran from them during the primary. It's not even a comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,545 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said: Not at all, which is exactly my point. Biden has already committed to Presidential debates and took part in every primary debate. Tubs ran from them during the primary. It's not even a comparison. Coach Tuberville is not stupid. He had zero to gain by debating Sessions. All a debate would have done, regardless of outcome, would have been to give Sessions exposure. Tuberville let Sessions languish in the corner, a forgotten man. That won't work for Biden, normally he should have to come out and be seen. If he refuses, we'll all know what's already suspected: that he's fully non compos mentis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, Mikey said: Coach Tuberville is not stupid. He had zero to gain by debating Sessions. All a debate would have done, regardless of outcome, would have been to give Sessions exposure. Tuberville let Sessions languish in the corner, a forgotten man. That won't work for Biden, normally he should have to come out and be seen. If he refuses, we'll all know what's already suspected: that he's fully non compos mentis. Using the same logic, polling would indicate that Biden has zero to gain by debating Trump. Realistically the best thing Biden could do is continue to stay on the outside and let Trump beat himself. But the man has integrity (unlike Tubs) and will be on the debate stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 12,800 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 53 minutes ago, Mikey said: Coach Tuberville is not stupid. He had zero to gain by debating Sessions. All a debate would have done, regardless of outcome, would have been to give Sessions exposure. Tuberville let Sessions languish in the corner, a forgotten man. That won't work for Biden, normally he should have to come out and be seen. If he refuses, we'll all know what's already suspected: that he's fully non compos mentis. What a load of hypocritical, inconsistent crap. On brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialCircle 570 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 hours ago, TexasTiger said: What a load of hypocritical, inconsistent crap. On brand. If we are going to call out this hypocrisy then let’s also call out the hypocrisy in this article. Chris Wallace is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,695 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 hours ago, SocialCircle said: If we are going to call out this hypocrisy then let’s also call out the hypocrisy in this article. Chris Wallace is right. why? you do not believe it to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,545 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 8 hours ago, Brad_ATX said: Using the same logic, polling would indicate that Biden has zero to gain by debating Trump. Realistically the best thing Biden could do is continue to stay on the outside and let Trump beat himself. But the man has integrity (unlike Tubs) and will be on the debate stage. Neither of the candidates in the senatorial race was strongly suspected of being in the early to mid stages of dementia. If Biden no-shows in the presidential debates, that will confirm the suspicion that he's not mentally capable of doing the job of president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 49 minutes ago, Mikey said: Neither of the candidates in the senatorial race was strongly suspected of being in the early to mid stages of dementia. If Biden no-shows in the presidential debates, that will confirm the suspicion that he's not mentally capable of doing the job of president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,545 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 14 hours ago, Brad_ATX said: So, you don't understand that you were comparing apples to oranges. How sad for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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