The Freak Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, TigerOne said: So everyone will be comfortable with Auburn being on probation after 2 years with Freeze? Good to know I don't think he will be able to pull shenanigans at Auburn like what was going on at Ole Miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkingCarpet Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 If Hugh Freeze wasn't such a sleaze I'd be very excited for him. I can't be the only one who knows we'll be on probation within six years if we hire him right? He left Ole Miss a bombed out crater that they're still trying to crawl out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleCoTiger Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Gowebb11 said: Very true. But look up some articles on what Bama and Clemsons (and other top programs) recent football success had done the elevate the University brand on a national scale. There is not a more powerful marketing tool for a school. Not to mention the revenue. I reckon that's why MIT, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Northwestern, Vanderbilt and Duke (etc.) all have such bad reputations and struggle to draw students. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, AuCivilEng1 said: I want to see Auburn take a step out of that good old boy network and hire an outsider. Freeze may run a better offense than Gus, but it feels like the two guys have the same claim to fame. I’m worried about recruiting. I just don’t see how Freeze can walk into a room after Saban, Kirby, Mullen, O, or Kiffin and walk out with a recruit feeing like he’s the guy that can get him to the promised land. The highest profile job he’s held was at Ole Piss. Just another high school football coach with an exciting offense and a white visor. And this is why Cristobal is the obvious choice (among other reasons). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hikerdns Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 So help me on one thing. What is people's fascination with freeze as an option? His experience is minimal outside ole mess and fighting fallwells, but people have him on the short list with MC. And didn't he leave ole mess in a mess of ncaa violations? Honest question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuCivilEng1 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, hikerdns said: So help me on one thing. What is people's fascination with freeze as an option? His experience is minimal outside ole mess and fighting fallwells, but people have him on the short list with MC. And didn't he leave ole mess in a mess of ncaa violations? Honest question? He’s the new Petrino. Get ready for his name to come up on every Auburn coaching search for the next 20 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Refuge Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, ShocksMyBrain said: Has anyone done the Ferris Bueller 31 Flavors joke yet? I thought about it....but didn’t pull the trigger. I’m getting soft in my old age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Freak Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, hikerdns said: So help me on one thing. What is people's fascination with freeze as an option? His experience is minimal outside ole mess and fighting fallwells, but people have him on the short list with MC. And didn't he leave ole mess in a mess of ncaa violations? Honest question? Its been posted plenty already, but here are the cliff notes: He rebuilt Lambeth, Ark State, Ole Miss and now Liberty all into programs that had not seen the success before him in many years. That's a pretty proven record of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightTiger Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 hours ago, hikerdns said: So help me on one thing. What is people's fascination with freeze as an option? His experience is minimal outside ole mess and fighting fallwells, but people have him on the short list with MC. And didn't he leave ole mess in a mess of ncaa violations? Honest question? some folks ive talked to say they want him because he beat bammer two years in a row. ummmm? Gus has beat bammer three times (four if you count 2010 when he was our OC) if we're hiring someone just because they beat bammer then might as well keep Gus. others are more excited by what hes doing at Liberty with Willis its like in 2012 when i talked to folks who wanted petrino Me: Why should Petrino be our next HC? Petrino fans: he ran the score up on us when he was at Arkansas Me: okay....so you want to return the favor and run the score up on Arkansas by hiring Petrino? Petrino fans: Yes Me: facepalm! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metafour Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Hugh Freeze is an elite coach. Why would we want to hire him? Take a look at his resume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soblfly Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, The Freak said: Its been posted plenty already, but here are the cliff notes: He rebuilt Lambeth, Ark State, Ole Miss and now Liberty all into programs that had not seen the success before him in many years. That's a pretty proven record of success. He's also a good friend of the current HC, and was also a very respected high school coach.. Are we going after apples on the same tree? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hikerdns Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Freak said: Its been posted plenty already, but here are the cliff notes: He rebuilt Lambeth, Ark State, Ole Miss and now Liberty all into programs that had not seen the success before him in many years. That's a pretty proven record of success. I mean maybe? And who’s Lambeth? 1 minute ago, KnightTiger said: some folks ive talked to say they want him because he beat bammer two years in a row. ummmm? Gus has beat bammer three times (four if you count 2010 when he was our OC) if we're hiring someone just because they beat bammer then might as well keep Gus. others are more excited by what hes doing at Liberty with Willis its like in 2012 when i talked to folks who wanted petrino Me: Why should Petrino be our next HC? Petrino fans: he ran the score up on us when he was at Arkansas Me: okay....so you want to return the favor and run the score up on Arkansas by hiring Petrino? Petrino fans: Yes Me: facepalm! This is the gist I’m getting too. Was wondering if there was anything else I didn’t understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredst Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, CleCoTiger said: I reckon that's why MIT, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Northwestern, Vanderbilt and Duke (etc.) all have such bad reputations and struggle to draw students. And Auburn is usually mentioned in the same breath with they Ivys and the other elite academic institutions you mention😒. I love Auburn and am proud of the two degrees I have from there. But, as @ellitor points out, it is well documented that a university with successful athletics (especially FBS football) experiences significant increases in donations (both athletic and nonathletic) and enrollment. To suggest that Auburn is above this as an ivory tower of academia is silly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr82be Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, WalkingCarpet said: If Hugh Freeze wasn't such a sleaze I'd be very excited for him. I can't be the only one who knows we'll be on probation within six years if we hire him right? He left Ole Miss a bombed out crater that they're still trying to crawl out of. It's a risk but for the sake of argument... Probation would possibly include: No bowls- we can't win them anyway with Gus. Loss of scholarships- as opposed to players we sign then don't use or develop properly and lose to transfer portal. Ineligible for CFP - not happening with 4 losses per year. We seem to already be on probation. Edited December 8, 2020 by gr82be Rephrase 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Freak Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, soblfly said: He's also a good friend of the current HC, and was also a very respected high school coach.. Are we going after apples on the same tree? but Freeze coached girls basketball too. So, he's way betterer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hikerdns Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, metafour said: Hugh Freeze is an elite coach. Why would we want to hire him? Take a look at his resume. I have, and wasn’t overly impressed, so that’s what triggered my initial question. Which was an honest questions...appreciate your reasoning. (Unless you’re being sarcastic, can’t tell🤔) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hikerdns Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, gr82be said: It's a risk but for the sake of argument... Probation would possibly include: No bowls- we can't win them anyway with Gus. Loss of scholarships- in lplayers we sign, don't use or develop properly and lose to transfer portal. Ineligible for CFP - not happening with 4 losses per year. We seem to already be on probation. Now this makes sense as to why he’s on peoples short list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tiger Refuge said: I thought about it....but didn’t pull the trigger. I’m getting soft in my old age. Ah there’ll be plenty of opportunities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jAUSon Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, AuCivilEng1 said: He’s the new Petrino. Get ready for his name to come up on every Auburn coaching search for the next 20 years. That's who we need. Petrino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, metafour said: Hugh Freeze is an elite coach. Why would we want to hire him? Take a look at his resume. Something something not an Auburn man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Freak Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, hikerdns said: I mean maybe? And who’s Lambeth? http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=lambuth+football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hikerdns Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, The Freak said: http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=lambuth+football Ah. That helps, much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuCivilEng1 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, metafour said: Hugh Freeze is an elite coach. Why would we want to hire him? Take a look at his resume. Elite? Arky St. 10-2 Ole Miss 7-6,8-5,9-4,10-3,5-7 Liberty. 8-5, 9-1 2-2 in bowls Notable assistants - Tom Allen and Matt Luke What is elite about anything he’s done in his coaching career. He had a 10 win season at Ole Miss when they had Chad Kelly and a butt load of talent at receiver. And he won a Sugar Bowl. He’s having a good season at Liberty where they have notable wins over such powerhouses as Virginia Tech, Western Carolina, UMass, Southern Miss, North Alabama, LA Monroe, Syracuse, FIU, and Western Kentucky. That’s it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metafour Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, hikerdns said: I mean maybe? And who’s Lambeth? Exactly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehighfan Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 27 minutes ago, Beaker said: And this is why Cristobal is the obvious choice (among other reasons). If we were to hire Cristobal you couldn't tickle me anymore if you stuck a feather up my a$$. But from a percentage stand point what are the chances we get MC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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