Auburnfan91 1,407 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Some perspective on the 'home run' or 'slam dunk' hire argument Current coaches in the FBS who have won a NC: Nick Saban - 2003,2009,2011,2012,2015,2017 Jimbo Fisher - 2013 Dabo Swinney - 2016,2018 Mack Brown - 2005 Les Miles - 2007 Ed Orgeron - 2019 The idea of hiring a 'proven' coach is a bit of an exaggeration. There aren't many 'proven' coaches that are winning big at P5 schools that are on the market or can be pried away from their current school. Texas A&M hired Jimbo away from FSU but Jimbo went 6-6 his last year at FSU. He wasn't winning big when he left. He was slipping at FSU. A lot of the successful coaches college football coaches in the last 20 years were not 'proven'. Jim Tressel was at Youngstown State before he was hired at Ohio State. Pete Carrol had never been a college HC before being hired at USC. Bob Stoops was a DC at Florida under Spurrier when he was hired at Oklahoma. Urban Meyer was at Utah(Mountain West) before being hired at Florida. Dabo Swinney was the WR's coach at Clemson under Tommy Bowden before he was promoted to HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerFanAU 586 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 If Cristobal isn’t hired never use Ranes Yellawood ever again. And that creepy bastard Harbert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo Didley 146 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Auburnfan91 said: Some perspective on the 'home run' or 'slam dunk' hire argument Current coaches in the FBS who have won a NC: Nick Saban - 2003,2009,2011,2012,2015,2017 Jimbo Fisher - 2013 Dabo Swinney - 2016,2018 Mack Brown - 2005 Les Miles - 2007 Ed Orgeron - 2019 The idea of hiring a 'proven' coach is a bit of an exaggeration. There aren't many 'proven' coaches that are winning big at P5 schools that are on the market or can be pried away from their current school. Texas A&M hired Jimbo away from FSU but Jimbo went 6-6 his last year at FSU. He wasn't winning big when he left. He was slipping at FSU. A lot of the successful coaches college football coaches in the last 20 years were not 'proven'. Jim Tressel was at Youngstown State before he was hired at Ohio State. Pete Carrol had never been a college HC before being hired at USC. Bob Stoops was a DC at Florida under Spurrier when he was hired at Oklahoma. Urban Meyer was at Utah(Mountain West) before being hired at Florida. Dabo Swinney was the WR's coach at Clemson under Tommy Bowden before he was promoted to HC. Well put together! Very insightful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony4AU 386 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 22 minutes ago, Auburnfan91 said: Some perspective on the 'home run' or 'slam dunk' hire argument Current coaches in the FBS who have won a NC: Nick Saban - 2003,2009,2011,2012,2015,2017 Jimbo Fisher - 2013 Dabo Swinney - 2016,2018 Mack Brown - 2005 Les Miles - 2007 Ed Orgeron - 2019 The idea of hiring a 'proven' coach is a bit of an exaggeration. There aren't many 'proven' coaches that are winning big at P5 schools that are on the market or can be pried away from their current school. Texas A&M hired Jimbo away from FSU but Jimbo went 6-6 his last year at FSU. He wasn't winning big when he left. He was slipping at FSU. A lot of the successful coaches college football coaches in the last 20 years were not 'proven'. Jim Tressel was at Youngstown State before he was hired at Ohio State. Pete Carrol had never been a college HC before being hired at USC. Bob Stoops was a DC at Florida under Spurrier when he was hired at Oklahoma. Urban Meyer was at Utah(Mountain West) before being hired at Florida. Dabo Swinney was the WR's coach at Clemson under Tommy Bowden before he was promoted to HC. I get what you are saying but should left off Tressel His record at YSU was 135-57-2 4 1-AA National Title I would say that was proven Urban built winners at Bowling Green and Utah before going to Florida. Could debate if that was enough to be proven before going Power 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dual-Threat Rigby 8,648 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Auburn Tiger said: posting this from a Reddit thread: amazing how even the people with connections are like "yeah....I don't think they should do that." Harbert, Rane, Lowder, all terrible. It's amazing how AG is probably the only person in those conversations that has a lick of sense and he's the smallest voice in the room. I don't give a damn if Harbert sold the Magna Carta to fund Auburn, firing Gus to promote a backstabbing career loser will KILL auburn. Him and his damn press coverage against day 1 NFL starters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo Didley 146 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Dual-Threat Rigby said: amazing how even the people with connections are like "yeah....I don't think they should do that." Harbert, Rane, Lowder, all terrible. It's amazing how AG is probably the only person in those conversations that has a lick of sense and he's the smallest voice in the room. I don't give a damn if Harbert sold the Magna Carta to fund Auburn, firing Gus to promote a backstabbing career loser will KILL auburn. Him and his damn press coverage against day 1 NFL starters I said this in many conversations over the last year with rival friends and family. I feel for AG! I hope at the end of the day his voice of reason prevails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTaz 109 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Sounds to me like Greene knows what he’s doing and the buffoon big money boys need to shut their pie holes and let the man work. Enough good ole boy networking at Auburn! We’ve had enough of that junk over the years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagle2423 357 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Wonder if he’ll sign it 🤔🤔🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, WarEagle2423 said: Wonder if he’ll sign it 🤔🤔🤔 We won't have any trouble beating that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUBwins 10,068 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, Barnacle said: We won't have any trouble beating that. We better beat that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, WarEagle2423 said: Wonder if he’ll sign it 🤔🤔🤔 I could see him turning that down if the $7M+ per year is accurate that we offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietmaninthecorner 1,945 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, WarEagle2423 said: Wonder if he’ll sign it 🤔🤔🤔 wow! we can do better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUBwins 10,068 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, Brad_ATX said: I could see him turning that down if the $7M+ per year is accurate that we offered. He probably would turn it down for 5.5 to 6mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUght2win 6,826 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Is it a lock that Oregon's trustees will even approve this? I could see the attitude of that state not being so keen on spending huge money on a coach extension during a pandemic. I could see people making it political and wrecking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, AUBwins said: He probably would turn it down for 5.5 to 6mil. I think $6M for sure would get him. But we've already put a number in front of him I'm sure. Can't backtrack now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBiGGiE 2,488 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I see I got beat to the punch on Crepea's tweet. Shooooot, we absolutely can and should beat that by at least a million and let him pick his staff. Now of course, there's still other factors at play. Maybe Oregon wins and he makes the emotional decision to stay? Maybe he signs tomorrow and we're sitting on our hands this weekend... The ride's not over yet, gents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randman5000 4,226 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, WarEagle2423 said: Wonder if he’ll sign it 🤔🤔🤔 Crapea?!? Oh yeah he covers the ducks now. Don't miss that guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietmaninthecorner 1,945 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, AUBwins said: He probably would turn it down for 5.5 to 6mil. I was thinking 5.75M. PLUS , pick your own coaching staff, and HUGE bonuses for SECCG appearance, # wins AND I stated if he comes to AU and brings mustache guy with him, I will grow that mustaches, and bonuses for any other mark we want to reach. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I LOL'd so hard at this tweet. Mods, take it down if it's over the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUGrad16 34 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, WarEagle2423 said: Wonder if he’ll sign it 🤔🤔🤔 This would make him the THIRD highest paid coach in the PAC-12 ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagle2423 357 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I think we can beat that offer for sure. Whether we will is the question haha. That $8M buyout scares me a bit, but I’ll remain cautiously optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 At least Oregon can now say they made a good faith effort at retaining him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ATX 13,654 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, Barnacle said: At least Oregon can now say they made a good faith effort at retaining him. Very well may hitting the nail on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBiGGiE 2,488 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, AUght2win said: Is it a lock that Oregon's trustees will even approve this? I could see the attitude of that state not being so keen on spending huge money on a coach extension during a pandemic. I could see people making it political and wrecking it. Yes, the Oregon BOT will have a vote for approval tomorrow afternoon. It is possible I suppose that it could approved. If Phil Knight has already cut a check I think it's a matter of formality... But boy how juicy would it be if they reject 😋 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randman5000 4,226 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Hmm, he's still behind Shaw and Kyle Wittingham. Potential to move up but that's not what I expected. I sure hope we low balled them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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