homersapien 11,362 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Farmer Brown said: There is ample evidence on twitter, where others from the other side of the political spectrum, are allowed to do these very things, yet, they aren't restricted. How many of them are POTUS with 70 million followers who actually believe the election was fraudulent and are willing to overthrow the government? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdefromtx 3,159 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, homersapien said: How many of them are POTUS with 70 million followers who actually believe the election was fraudulent and are willing to overthrow the government? This is a gross exaggeration if there ever was one. Good grief. 😂 Unless things change we will have a real 70 million that want to overthrow it though. That is what people need to realize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,362 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, wdefromtx said: This is a gross exaggeration if there ever was one. Good grief. 😂 Unless things change we will have a real 70 million that want to overthrow it though. That is what people need to realize. It was a satirical response to a stupid post. Unless "things change"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdefromtx 3,159 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, homersapien said: It was a satirical response to stupid post. I know, but with you does one really know for sure?!?!😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoAU 1,600 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I assume Harris, Pelosi, Biden and other Dems that supported the BLM protests will be held to the same standard? I’d be more than willing to dig through some of those quotes that were every bit as inflammatory as Trumps were. The issue isn’t whether or not they have the right to, it’s the double standard and hypocrisy that is applied while they do it. I’d love to see the alleged posts where Trump ordered any coup or insurrection. A small group of idiots made a piss poor decision, committed crimes and can / should be punished and some people here love to lump the entire conservative movement into that pile. If “fanning the flames” is the issue and an impeachable offense, I’d expect to see the resignations or articles of impeachment filed for numerous Democrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,362 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just now, wdefromtx said: I know, but with you does one really know for sure?!?!😁 Well apparently, it went over your head, having described it as a "gross exaggeration". I naturally assumed it was obvious. Guess I'll have to start labeling my satire - for you if no one else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdefromtx 3,159 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, homersapien said: Well apparently, it went over your head, having described it as a "gross exaggeration". I naturally assumed it was obvious. Guess I'll have to start labeling my satire - for you if no one else. Well I just took my oldest daughter back to college and traveling on several flights since 5:00 and two layovers. All with no coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,362 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 49 minutes ago, GoAU said: I assume Harris, Pelosi, Biden and other Dems that supported the BLM protests will be held to the same standard? I’d be more than willing to dig through some of those quotes that were every bit as inflammatory as Trumps were. The issue isn’t whether or not they have the right to, it’s the double standard and hypocrisy that is applied while they do it. I’d love to see the alleged posts where Trump ordered any coup or insurrection. A small group of idiots made a piss poor decision, committed crimes and can / should be punished and some people here love to lump the entire conservative movement into that pile. If “fanning the flames” is the issue and an impeachable offense, I’d expect to see the resignationws or articles of impeachment filed for numerous Democrats. Are you really equating peaceful BLM protests with what happened last Wednesday or was that just a Freudian slip? I am confident that Harris, Pelosi, et al. would strongly condemn rioting regardless of what preceded it. There were literally thousands of BLM rallies held in every state. Very few of them became violent. https://time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/ Trump has been claiming the election was fraudulent since it ended, in spite of all the evidence it wasn't. Hell, he even predicted it would be fraudulent if he lost. As a consequence, there is a large percentage of his supporters who actually believe it. See: Trump also called for his supporters to rally in D.C. - it will be "wild" - to specifically protest the Democrats "stealing of the election". And when they got there, he urged them to march on the capitol building, and they did so. (In fact, prior to Trump egging them to march on the capitol, they were engaging in "peaceful" protest. Some of them were getting arrested on weapons charges but it didn't become a "riot" until Trump made it one.) You are nuts to try to draw equivalence here. It's crazy delusional. I overestimated you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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McLoofus 35,182 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Paraphrased from Twitter, it's interesting that they're purging terrorists and people who plan violence on social media, but people like Farmer Brown can't draw a distinction between that and "conservative voices". Remember when they had plausible deniability and it seemed possible that it really was just a few crazies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,362 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, McLoofus said: Paraphrased from Twitter, it's interesting that they're purging terrorists and people who plan violence on social media, but people like Farmer Brown can't draw a distinction between that and "conservative voices". Remember when they had plausible deniability and it seemed possible that it really was just a few crazies? With 70+ million MAGA votes at stake, plausible deniability has lost it's value. Embracing sedition - and the lies that preceded it - is what's valuable to them now. Grand Old Party my ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,472 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, McLoofus said: Paraphrased from Twitter, it's interesting that they're purging terrorists and people who plan violence on social media, but people like Farmer Brown can't draw a distinction between that and "conservative voices". Remember when they had plausible deniability and it seemed possible that it really was just a few crazies? One would think it might prompt some soul searching and wondering why the Venn diagram of “conservative” and “people fomenting violence” overlaps so much lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, TitanTiger said: One would think it might prompt some soul searching and wondering why the Venn diagram of “conservative” and “people fomenting violence” overlaps so much lately. I'm glad you took that as intended and not as me saying the overlap is complete. Thank goodness for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,362 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, McLoofus said: I'm glad you took that as intended and not as me saying the overlap is complete. Thank goodness for that. I have to admit, the word "concentric" passed through my mind (which is unfair). Anyway, the remaining "crescent" of real conservatives better get busy developing a replacement for the Republican party. The GOP just retained the same MAGAs in leadership roles. How about the "Lincoln" party? There's already a kernel of never-Trumper's there to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, homersapien said: That remaining "crescent" of real conservatives better get busy developing a replacement for the Republican party. The GOP just retained the same MAGAs in leadership roles. How about the "Lincoln" party? There's already a kernel there to start from. I don't envy that predicament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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homersapien 11,362 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, McLoofus said: I don't envy that predicament. It's going to be fascinating to watch though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoAU 1,600 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, homersapien said: With 70+ million MAGA votes at stake, plausible deniability has lost it's value. Embracing sedition - and the lies that preceded it - is what's valuable to them now. Grand Old Party my ass! So, you are saying it’s ok to stereotype 70 million people based on political views because of the acts of the .00001% that stormed the Capitol? Profile much? Yet the act of declaring CHAZ / CHOP and autonomous zone and separate from the US is ok? Numerous building were burned to the ground, business looted, Hundreds of millions of dollars in damage and who knows how many deaths. I am not defending those who stormed the Capitol, but I am pointing out the irony and double standard that you seem to have missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoAU 1,600 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 hours ago, homersapien said: Are you really equating peaceful BLM protests with what happened last Wednesday or was that just a Freudian slip? I am confident that Harris, Pelosi, et al. would strongly condemn rioting regardless of what preceded it. There were literally thousands of BLM rallies held in every state. Very few of them became violent. https://time.com/5886348/report-peaceful-protests/ Trump has been claiming the election was fraudulent since it ended, in spite of all the evidence it wasn't. Hell, he even predicted it would be fraudulent if he lost. As a consequence, there is a large percentage of his supporters who actually believe it. See: Trump also called for his supporters to rally in D.C. - it will be "wild" - to specifically protest the Democrats "stealing of the election". And when they got there, he urged them to march on the capitol building, and they did so. (In fact, prior to Trump egging them to march on the capitol, they were engaging in "peaceful" protest. Some of them were getting arrested on weapons charges but it didn't become a "riot" until Trump made it one.) You are nuts to try to draw equivalence here. It's crazy delusional. I overestimated you. Are you REALLY implying that the BLM protests were peaceful? How many business were looted, burned, and people assaulted? You must be joking when you said that Pelosi, Harris, and Biden would condemn rioting. They had all summer to do so, but instead merely tried to justify it, claim is was “mostly peaceful “ as buildings literally burned in the background, or just stick their heads....... in the sand. People are allowed to believe whatever they would like - no crime in belief. I’ll be perfectly honest, there are LOTS of irregularities with this election, that is undisputed. Whether it resulted in a change of outcome remains to be seen, and likely never will. Once again - no equivalence here. One side had a single event that resulted in a small percentage of participants committing an absolutely heinous and illegal act that resulted directly in the loss of two lives. The other side had a summer full of rioting, arson, looting, property damage and numerous lives lost. Both parties had leaders fail to control the situation. But regardless of that, the individuals on both sides that committed the crimes are 100% responsible for their own actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURex 1,994 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 If you submit a Letter to the Editor of a newspaper, thew newspaper is not required to publish it. And if you send 50 letters to the newspaper, they don't have to publish any of them. You can say/write whatever you want, but nobody is required to publish it. Same goes for Donald and all his ducks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,147 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, GoAU said: Are you REALLY implying that the BLM protests were peaceful? How many business were looted, burned, and people assaulted? For the most part they were. Hell I let my 15 year old participate in the BLM gathering they had here in town and there were no problems at all. Everyone was respectful and friendly, police, protesters, everyone. 1 hour ago, GoAU said: People are allowed to believe whatever they would like - no crime in belief. I’ll be perfectly honest, there are LOTS of irregularities with this election, that is undisputed. Whether it resulted in a change of outcome remains to be seen, and likely never will. Homer, run. This one just showed his hand. 1 hour ago, GoAU said: Once again - no equivalence here. One side had a single event that resulted in a small percentage of participants committing an absolutely heinous and illegal act that resulted directly in the loss of two lives. The other side had a summer full of rioting, arson, looting, property damage and numerous lives lost. Both parties had leaders fail to control the situation. But regardless of that, the individuals on both sides that committed the crimes are 100% responsible for their own actions. More equivocation. You guys put zero effort into critical thinking. Zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoAU 1,600 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 7 hours ago, AUDub said: For the most part they were. Hell I let my 15 year old participate in the BLM gathering they had here in town and there were no problems at all. Everyone was respectful and friendly, police, protesters, everyone. Homer, run. This one just showed his hand. More equivocation. You guys put zero effort into critical thinking. Zero. If the BLM riots were mostly peaceful, than the March in DC wouldn’t be an issue - it paled in comparison. I’m glad you let your child participate in a BLM rally - it’s great to allow / encourage children to stand for what they believe in. However, I’m somehow doubting you packed them a lunch and sent them to CHAZ /CHOP, or did you? Are you really denying the riots that occurred all summer? Not saying ALL BLM events had riots but there were plenty - some became nightly events. There was ONE event where there was a small sub-segment of the conservative base that went full stupid and YOUR the one trying to paint everyone on the right with that brush. as for your last statement / your opinion is completely irrelevant to me. I find it completely insane how you don’t see an issue with muzzling constitutional rights. Not surprising mind you, as all examples of liberalism and socialism end it utter disaster, but insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUUSN 823 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 16 hours ago, Farmer Brown said: This is an honest question. Do you all see the ban of conservatives, from social media platforms, as the restricting of free speech. Good ole Tim Cook, is part of it also. Apple, Google, Twitter, Facebook, are all complicit in censorship. Whether we agree or not, I wouldn't restrict your right of expression, and freedom of speech, for a minute. Did you support a Christian baker refusing to make a cake for a gay couple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLoofus 35,182 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 7 hours ago, AUDub said: For the most part they were. Hell I let my 15 year old participate in the BLM gathering they had here in town and there were no problems at all. Everyone was respectful and friendly, police, protesters, everyone. 93% of them have been peaceful. Someone has done the research. Don't have it handy now. And it doesn't matter because our QMorons don't believe facts anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,472 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 An alternative view on the 1st Amendment considerations (a thread): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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