LSU under federal investigation

[AUFlyer99 647]

They’re not looking back far enough....

[Tigerbelle 5,299]

On 3/4/2021 at 3:56 PM, keesler said:

OK Belle, if the sexual misconduct and sexual assault all started when Saban was there and it was entrenched in the LSU culture of their Administration to ignore, slow play and outright fail to take the proper avenue of dealing with those issues, then so be it.  Do the current Federal investigators care when it all started, and will they go back as far as +20 yrs to delve into the LSU Administrative underbelly of Mark Emmert/Joe Alleva/ Scott Woodward & the number of coaches under their regimes at LSU? 

What we do know is that Les Miles secret settlement to an LSU student who accused him of sexual harassment was recently unearthed.   I think we have a pretty good inkling that sexual misconduct and harassment even from the Head Coach may have been overlooked and possibly tolerated to some degree under Les Miles.  I'll not trash Les until the case is made public for all to see, he may be a total innocent in that lawsuit and just felt like paying the woman off to keep it out of the news.  Was Ed Orgeron knowledgeable of the accusations and complaints while working under Miles?  Did Orgeron as HC know properly report accusations against Grant Delpit recording a nude female without her knowledge Or the two women that have accused Derrius Guice of rape while at LSU or ignore allegations against Drake Davis while LSU slow played his suspension and he continued to strangle and assault an LSU tennis player? 

We know that LSU's Administration under Joe Alleva, King Alexander, and possibly Les Miles failed to do their jobs.  Coaches in multiple sports failed to report properly, and a few were still employed as recently as Dec '20.  

LSU has/had an Administrative culture problem regardless of when it all started, and they should receive sanctions and severely reduced funding if the allegations are found to be true.  Scott Woodward has a family association with Mark Emmert, Woodward wants desperately to clean up this mess so that he will be a viable candidate to take over as LSU President in the near future.

 

It's the CULTURE of the institution and things have been going on there for years and years. 

Times have changed, and sexual assault and sexual harassment will be the instrument that will take a school down these days, especially when recruiting violations and pay-to-play are mostly ignored. It used to be the other way around. 

[aubiefifty 16,754]

On 3/4/2021 at 7:11 AM, bigbird said:

Emmert is tied to the dirt and bodies at LSU. It's why Saban will never be touched either, he an Emmert are tied to one another.

as obvious as that is why has no one looked closer at emmert?would it be safe to say the ncaa protects their own?

[AUwent 3,748]

There’s going to be much less of an excuse to not break the BR streak very soon.

[AlaskanFAN 1,665]

Funny how Coach O is saying how they take this stuff very serious, when the most grievous actions took place under his watch, with Guice & Drake.

[AlaskanFAN 1,665]

Ok so the former President of LSU, the former AD of LSU and the former Football Coach at LSU - all at other Universities - have either resigned or were fired because of the LSU Husch Blackwell report. Now the current interim President of LSU what has he done, he put 2 AD staffers on administrative leave without pay for one 21 days and the other 30 days. ...........Something does not add up here.  

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2 hours ago, AlaskanFAN said:

Ok so the former President of LSU, the former AD of LSU and the former Football Coach at LSU - all at other Universities - have either resigned or were fired because of the LSU Husch Blackwell report. Now the current interim President of LSU what has he done, he put 2 AD staffers on administrative leave without pay for one 21 days and the other 30 days. ...........Something does not add up here.  

I was thinking the exact same thing. A lot of "Nothing to See Here!!!" going on in Red Stick. This is either hugely detrimental to LSU athletics, or it will fade away quietly. Mixed messages for sure.

[AUBwins 10,074]

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/lsu/article_bf8eae5e-fc65-11eb-a660-0b2c2dc2ee1c.html

Not over yet.  

NCAA extends investigation into LSU athletics; case involves ‘at least’ 13 men’s basketball recruits, records show
BY WILSON ALEXANDER | STAFF WRITER AUG 13, 2021 - 1:45 PM Comments 
 3 min to read

The NCAA was scheduled to complete its investigation of alleged violations within the LSU men’s basketball and football programs by July 31, but that deadline has been extended, further stretching an investigation that has lasted roughly three years.

Documents shared between LSU and the NCAA, which The Advocate obtained through a public records request, revealed the latest in a probe that lumped the football and men’s basketball cases together by referring them last year to the Independent Accountability Review Process, a group designed to handle complex NCAA infractions.

LSU had requested a separation of the football and basketball cases, which the NCAA denied.

The IARP’s complex case unit and LSU agreed upon a July 31 completion date for the investigation, but LSU spokesperson Ernie Ballard confirmed the completion date had been extended and that the investigation is still ongoing. LSU declined further comment.

Once the investigation ends, the complex case unit will have 60 days to issue LSU a notice of allegations, documents showed, which could affect men’s basketball coach Will Wade’s future at the school.

The case will then be heard by a review panel that determines if violations occurred and levies penalties. That panel’s decisions are final and cannot be appealed — a key reason why LSU wanted the football and men’s basketball cases separated.

The LSU men’s basketball case includes alleged violations involving “at least 13 prospective student athletes and a projected 75 individuals who may have knowledge of, and/or involvement in, the alleged violations," according to a December letter from external investigator Nicole Lamb-Hale and LSU compliance director Bo Bahnsen.

The NCAA has investigated alleged recruiting violations under Wade since 2018. After Yahoo Sports published excerpts from a conversation wiretapped by the FBI between Wade and now-convicted middleman Christian Dawkins, in which Wade described a "strong-ass offer” to a recruit, Wade initially declined to meet with LSU and NCAA officials. The decision led to an indefinite suspension that lasted 37 days in 2019. Wade eventually spoke with the groups.

As part of his reinstatement, Wade forfeited $250,000 in incentives for the 2018-19 season. LSU also added a clause to Wade’s contract that allows the school to fire him with cause if it receives a notice of allegations for either a Level 1 or Level 2 violation. Wade’s attorney, Steven Thompson, could not be reached for comment.

“My expectation is that our athletic director (Scott Woodward) would — if something is contractually laid out — that he would execute the contract,” LSU president William F. Tate IV said during a meeting with The Advocate’s editorial board Thursday.

LSU’s case began under investigation by the NCAA enforcement staff, but last September, the governing body moved the case to the Independent Accountability Review Process.

The enforcement staff recommended the move because 13 months had passed before the group received Wade’s complete cellphone image records, which totaled nearly 60,000, according to documents obtained by The Advocate last year through a public records request.

The enforcement staff argued Wade’s actions throughout the process led to significant delays. The matter was also put on hold because the NCAA had to pause its initial investigation for a federal trial on corruption in college basketball in 2018 and one of Wade’s attorneys had to undergo cancer treatment, records showed.

The enforcement staff believed valuable information had been lost as a result, another factor that led to the investigation being sent to the IARP’s complex case unit.

The time that passed created "stale or incomplete facts that must be validated" when the complex case unit received the case, Lamb-Hale and Bahnsen wrote in December. They noted NCAA enforcement staff had interviewed 18 people before the case was referred to the IARP, leaving the panel with another 59 individuals to interview.

At the same time, the NCAA investigated the LSU football program for three rules violations. LSU unsuccessfully asked the NCAA to split the men’s basketball and football cases, arguing the football cases were closer to a resolution and objecting to the lack of an appeal in the Independent Accountability Review Process. Findings in the traditional peer-reviewed process allowed for appeals.

How lumping the cases together will affect potential punishments is unclear. The NCAA hasn’t yet punished any school whose case went through the Independent Accountability Review Process.

A month after the NCAA’s decision, LSU cut eight football scholarships over the next two years, reduced recruiting visits and banned former LSU wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. from the facility for two years after he distributed $2,000 in cash after LSU won the 2020 national championship.

LSU hoped to satisfy NCAA enforcement by doing so and avoid further penalties against the football program. It also self-imposed a one-year bowl ban in December.

The investigation into men’s basketball has continued under the complex case unit. According to letters from external investigators dated between November 2020 and May 2021, the complex case unit asked for more documents to help decide if violations occurred within the program.

Those included more material from Wade’s cell phones, records and devices from associate head coach Bill Armstrong and director of basketball operations Nelson Hernandez, the recruiting file for a player whose name was redacted from the documents and the passenger manifest for everyone who traveled with the team to away games since 2017.

Once the NCAA issues its notice of allegations, involved parties will have a chance to respond and submit information for the hearing. If every deadline gets stretched to its maximum length, another eight months could pass before the case is heard, further extending an investigation that has dragged on for years.

The NCAA recently made changes to try to hasten the process after one of its committees found delays have been caused by the complex case unit “re-investigating” cases. The Independent Accountability Review Process hasn’t adjudicated a case since its inception.

It currently has six unfinished cases, including LSU.

Edited August 13, 2021 by AUBwins

[USATiger 741]

On 8/13/2021 at 7:53 PM, AUBwins said:

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/sports/lsu/article_bf8eae5e-fc65-11eb-a660-0b2c2dc2ee1c.html

Not over yet.  

NCAA extends investigation into LSU athletics; case involves ‘at least’ 13 men’s basketball recruits, records show
BY WILSON ALEXANDER | STAFF WRITER AUG 13, 2021 - 1:45 PM Comments 
 3 min to read

The NCAA was scheduled to complete its investigation of alleged violations within the LSU men’s basketball and football programs by July 31, but that deadline has been extended, further stretching an investigation that has lasted roughly three years.

Documents shared between LSU and the NCAA, which The Advocate obtained through a public records request, revealed the latest in a probe that lumped the football and men’s basketball cases together by referring them last year to the Independent Accountability Review Process, a group designed to handle complex NCAA infractions.

LSU had requested a separation of the football and basketball cases, which the NCAA denied.

The IARP’s complex case unit and LSU agreed upon a July 31 completion date for the investigation, but LSU spokesperson Ernie Ballard confirmed the completion date had been extended and that the investigation is still ongoing. LSU declined further comment.

Once the investigation ends, the complex case unit will have 60 days to issue LSU a notice of allegations, documents showed, which could affect men’s basketball coach Will Wade’s future at the school.

The case will then be heard by a review panel that determines if violations occurred and levies penalties. That panel’s decisions are final and cannot be appealed — a key reason why LSU wanted the football and men’s basketball cases separated.

The LSU men’s basketball case includes alleged violations involving “at least 13 prospective student athletes and a projected 75 individuals who may have knowledge of, and/or involvement in, the alleged violations," according to a December letter from external investigator Nicole Lamb-Hale and LSU compliance director Bo Bahnsen.

The NCAA has investigated alleged recruiting violations under Wade since 2018. After Yahoo Sports published excerpts from a conversation wiretapped by the FBI between Wade and now-convicted middleman Christian Dawkins, in which Wade described a "strong-ass offer” to a recruit, Wade initially declined to meet with LSU and NCAA officials. The decision led to an indefinite suspension that lasted 37 days in 2019. Wade eventually spoke with the groups.

As part of his reinstatement, Wade forfeited $250,000 in incentives for the 2018-19 season. LSU also added a clause to Wade’s contract that allows the school to fire him with cause if it receives a notice of allegations for either a Level 1 or Level 2 violation. Wade’s attorney, Steven Thompson, could not be reached for comment.

“My expectation is that our athletic director (Scott Woodward) would — if something is contractually laid out — that he would execute the contract,” LSU president William F. Tate IV said during a meeting with The Advocate’s editorial board Thursday.

LSU’s case began under investigation by the NCAA enforcement staff, but last September, the governing body moved the case to the Independent Accountability Review Process.

The enforcement staff recommended the move because 13 months had passed before the group received Wade’s complete cellphone image records, which totaled nearly 60,000, according to documents obtained by The Advocate last year through a public records request.

The enforcement staff argued Wade’s actions throughout the process led to significant delays. The matter was also put on hold because the NCAA had to pause its initial investigation for a federal trial on corruption in college basketball in 2018 and one of Wade’s attorneys had to undergo cancer treatment, records showed.

The enforcement staff believed valuable information had been lost as a result, another factor that led to the investigation being sent to the IARP’s complex case unit.

The time that passed created "stale or incomplete facts that must be validated" when the complex case unit received the case, Lamb-Hale and Bahnsen wrote in December. They noted NCAA enforcement staff had interviewed 18 people before the case was referred to the IARP, leaving the panel with another 59 individuals to interview.

At the same time, the NCAA investigated the LSU football program for three rules violations. LSU unsuccessfully asked the NCAA to split the men’s basketball and football cases, arguing the football cases were closer to a resolution and objecting to the lack of an appeal in the Independent Accountability Review Process. Findings in the traditional peer-reviewed process allowed for appeals.

How lumping the cases together will affect potential punishments is unclear. The NCAA hasn’t yet punished any school whose case went through the Independent Accountability Review Process.

A month after the NCAA’s decision, LSU cut eight football scholarships over the next two years, reduced recruiting visits and banned former LSU wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. from the facility for two years after he distributed $2,000 in cash after LSU won the 2020 national championship.

LSU hoped to satisfy NCAA enforcement by doing so and avoid further penalties against the football program. It also self-imposed a one-year bowl ban in December.

The investigation into men’s basketball has continued under the complex case unit. According to letters from external investigators dated between November 2020 and May 2021, the complex case unit asked for more documents to help decide if violations occurred within the program.

Those included more material from Wade’s cell phones, records and devices from associate head coach Bill Armstrong and director of basketball operations Nelson Hernandez, the recruiting file for a player whose name was redacted from the documents and the passenger manifest for everyone who traveled with the team to away games since 2017.

Once the NCAA issues its notice of allegations, involved parties will have a chance to respond and submit information for the hearing. If every deadline gets stretched to its maximum length, another eight months could pass before the case is heard, further extending an investigation that has dragged on for years.

The NCAA recently made changes to try to hasten the process after one of its committees found delays have been caused by the complex case unit “re-investigating” cases. The Independent Accountability Review Process hasn’t adjudicated a case since its inception.

It currently has six unfinished cases, including LSU.

Independent my ass.  Code words for Emmert is covering it up. 

[AU-24 3,063]

On 3/4/2021 at 10:11 PM, bigbird said:

Emmert is tied to the dirt and bodies at LSU. It's why Saban will never be touched either, he an Emmert are tied to one another.

100% TRUE!

[keesler 5,924]

Turns out there wasn't enough cover-up at LSU to save Ed O's job.  

[PowerOfDixieland 3,226]

1 hour ago, keesler said:

Turns out there wasn't enough cover-up at LSU to save Ed O's job.  

It may be just the opposite, the Cajun Boy was going to be gone either way.  The fact that LSU is paying the entire $17 Million buyout AND letting him finish out the year, AND everybody's good with it....?  That should raise some questions as to why.

[keesler 5,924]

48 minutes ago, PowerOfDixieland said:

It may be just the opposite, the Cajun Boy was going to be gone either way.  The fact that LSU is paying the entire $17 Million buyout AND letting him finish out the year, AND everybody's good with it....?  That should raise some questions as to why.

He worked under Les Miles sleezy ass and he was on staff when most if not all of the sex abuse allegations transpired.  Ed knows too much, LSU can't afford to have him pissed.