What is concerning and not so concerning about the Georgia Election Reform Law

[AUFAN78 3,894]

16 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

I agree it isn't very complicated, but even still, the MAGA crowd doesn't have confidence in the elections, and from what I've seen they aren't really sure why that is themselves. The Republican party actually performed better in the 2020 election than polls and analysts thought, so the GOP will really kill their own momentum if they keep convincing their own voting base that elections are rigged against them and voting probably doesn't matter. 

So give them confidence. Simple really and easily doable IMO. 

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Just now, AUFAN78 said:

 

Simple really and easily doable IMO. 

Not without violating the Voting rights Act of 1965 it wouldn't be. 

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3 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

 

Not without violating the Voting rights Act of 1965 it wouldn't be. 

State your case please.

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Folks blasting airlines that made statements on requiring ID’s to vote for requiring ID for adults to fly calling it “flier suppression” is pretty damn funny. 

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Georgia Republicans can’t admit the real reason they’re restricting voting

 

Max Boot

Columnist

April 5, 2021 at 3:00 p.m. EDT

Republicans did not respond to their defeat in 2020 — they failed to take back the House and lost the Senate and White House, albeit by narrow margins — by trying to broaden their appeal. They responded by introducing more than 360 bills in 47 states that restrict voting. The first swing state where their efforts have paid off is Georgia, which former president Donald Trump lost by just 11,779 votes.

Because of its new election law, Georgia is on everyone’s mind. Nearly 200 companies joined in a statement on Friday against voting restrictions in Georgia and other states, hometown icons Coca-Cola and Delta Air Lines have condemned the Georgia bill, and Major League Baseball announced on Friday that it is moving this summer’s All-Star Game out of Atlanta in protest.

This, in turn, has led to a hysterical GOP backlash against “woke corporate hypocrites.” The very lawmakers who regularly fulminate against “cancel culture” now want to cancel MLB’s antitrust exemption. Fox News’s Laura Ingraham is threatening to “punish” companies that protest the Georgia law. National Review’s website features at least 20 different articles devoted to this dispute.

Move over, Dr. Seuss. The right has found a new front in its never-ending culture war.

As in any war, truth is the first casualty in this conflict. Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R) claims that criticism of the legislation is misplaced because it actually “expands” voting access. It’s true that the act does contain some provisions that expand access primarily in rural, heavily Republican areas. But a meticulous New York Times examination found that these provisions are far outweighed by 16 measures that restrict voting access — especially in urban areas where minority voters are concentrated.

In the core of metropolitan Atlanta, the number of drop boxes for absentee ballots will be reduced from 94 to no more than 23. The amount of time to request an absentee ballot before an election will be cut from 180 days to 78. Provisional ballots cast by voters who mistakenly go to the wrong polling place may no longer be counted. Election officials will be banned from sending absentee ballots to all voters. Mobile voting centers will essentially be discontinued. New ID requirements will be instituted. Outside groups will be prohibited from offering food or water to voters waiting in long lines even on hot and humid days. (Long lines are one of the leading reasons cited for not voting.)

Some of the act’s most worrisome provisions give the Republican-controlled legislature more control over disputed results. The legislature can now suspend county election officials. Replacements will be named by the State Election Board — whose chair will now be appointed by the legislature. Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger had previously chaired the board. But he angered Trump by resisting entreaties to overturn the election results, so now the secretary of state has been booted off the election board altogether.

President Biden may have exaggerated in describing this as “Jim Crow in the 21st century.” It’s not as egregious as restrictions on voting during the segregation era (but that’s not saying much). He was definitely wrong to claim that the law ends voting at 5 p.m.; polls will still be open until 7 p.m. And it’s true, as Kemp argues, that some blue states have restrictive voting laws of their own. Georgia, for example, offers a minimum of 17 days of early voting compared with nine in New York.

But New York isn’t moving to restrict voting. Georgia is. Why is that? Republicans can’t answer that basic question with a straight face because an honest response would expose their authoritarianism and racism.

The law’s ostensible justification is to combat voter fraud — except there isn’t any significant fraud. Trump is still claiming the election was “rigged,” but he has never produced one iota of credible evidence. Republicans filed more than 60 lawsuits challenging the election results that failed. A recent analysis from the Mitre Corp., a nonpartisan research organization, found “no evidence of fraud, manipulation, or uncorrected error” in eight battleground states, including Georgia.

The Georgia law was obviously passed not to crack down on nonexistent voter fraud but to make it harder for Democrats to win elections by making it more difficult for their supporters to vote. Some on the right even admit as much. With admirable (if chilling) honesty, National Review’s Andrew C. McCarthy defends the law by writing: “It would be far better if the franchise were not exercised by ignorant, civics-illiterate people, hypnotized by the flimflam that a great nation needs to be fundamentally transformed rather than competently governed.”

It goes without saying that the “ignorant … people” that McCarthy wants to disenfranchise are not Republicans like Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), who claims that Jewish-controlled space lasers are setting wildfires and that vigorous exercise can protect you against covid-19. He is obviously talking about people of color and progressives who believe that a country with a long history of racism and discrimination needs to be “fundamentally transformed.” That the Georgia legislature just passed a law restricting voting rights only shows how urgent that transformation remains.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/04/05/georgia-republicans-cant-admit-real-reason-theyre-restricting-voting/

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21 minutes ago, homersapien said:

 

As in any war, truth is the first casualty in this conflict. Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R) claims that criticism of the legislation is misplaced because it actually “expands” voting access. It’s true that the act does contain some provisions that expand access primarily in rural, heavily Republican areas. But a meticulous New York Times examination found that these provisions are far outweighed by 16 measures that restrict voting access — especially in urban areas where minority voters are concentrated.

In the core of metropolitan Atlanta, the number of drop boxes for absentee ballots will be reduced from 94 to no more than 23. The amount of time to request an absentee ballot before an election will be cut from 180 days to 78. Provisional ballots cast by voters who mistakenly go to the wrong polling place may no longer be counted. Election officials will be banned from sending absentee ballots to all voters. Mobile voting centers will essentially be discontinued. New ID requirements will be instituted. Outside groups will be prohibited from offering food or water to voters waiting in long lines even on hot and humid days. (Long lines are one of the leading reasons cited for not voting.)

Some of the act’s most worrisome provisions give the Republican-controlled legislature more control over disputed results. The legislature can now suspend county election officials. Replacements will be named by the State Election Board — whose chair will now be appointed by the legislature. Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger had previously chaired the board. But he angered Trump by resisting entreaties to overturn the election results, so now the secretary of state has been booted off the election board altogether.

 

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On 4/2/2021 at 4:44 PM, CoffeeTiger said:

The whole water thing is a silly part of the Bill. Some Georgia lawmakers  are trying to argue that the Bill only prevents partisan campaigns from giving out food/water, but that's not how the Bill is actually written and just further proves that Georgia was intentionally trying to push the bill through as fast as possible without properly vetting it.

How is the water provision actually written? 

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33 minutes ago, NolaAuTiger said:

How is the water provision actually written? 

"(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any

person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give,

 or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and

drink, to an elector, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any

person, other than election officials discharging their duties, establish or set up any tables

or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast

(1) Within 150 feet of the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is

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On 4/7/2021 at 5:30 PM, CoffeeTiger said:

"(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any

person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give,

 or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and

drink, to an elector, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any

person, other than election officials discharging their duties, establish or set up any tables

or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast

(1) Within 150 feet of the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is

Thanks. 

Just trying to understand what you meant by, "Some Georgia lawmakers  are trying to argue that the Bill only prevents partisan campaigns from giving out food/water, but that's not how the Bill is actually written..."

Perhaps those lawmakers are referring to subsection (e), which as I appreciate is intended to be an interpretive provision regarding poll officers?