homersapien 11,354 Posted July 8, 2021 Author Share Posted July 8, 2021 Just now, auburn41 said: You're old enough to have been buddies with plenty of racists as well. I am not arguing that positions have not changed. I'm saying there are plenty of racist a$$holes on the left that get a pass because they have a "D" next to their name. You, and people like you will always give a person a "pass" if they vote the correct way. How about Ralph Northam for example? Has he switched parties yet? BTW, calling people names is childish, grow up! Yeah, I will give someone a pass for something they did in college if they have corrected themselves, especially if the alternative is supporting Trump. I'll plead guilty to that. Again, only a fool would characterize the modern day Democratic party as racist, especially compared to the opposing party. That's right up there with QAnon theories. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeTiger 5,084 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, auburn41 said: Pure unadulterated BS. His policies thus far are more radical, progressive, woke and socialist than the policies of any President before him. I've never though of myself as a radical, progressive, socialist, but If trying to stop a pandemic, and working towards economic recovery and security = progressive, woke, socialism then I guess you can sign me up for more. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn41 492 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, homersapien said: Yeah, I will give someone a pass for something they did in college if they have corrected themselves, especially if the alternative is supporting Trump. I'll plead guilty to that. Again, only a fool would characterize the modern day Democratic party as racist, especially compared to the opposing party. That's right up there with QAnon theories. Of course I got no answer out of you about Ralph Northam. How about Sheldon Whitehouse and his "All White" beach club. Why aren't you up in arms about that? And to say I am calling all of the Dem party racist is your typical BS. I'm saying the racists in the Dem party get a pass from people like you because they are Dems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn41 492 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, CoffeeTiger said: I've never though of myself as a radical, progressive, socialist, but If trying to stop a pandemic, and working towards economic recovery and security = progressive, woke, socialism then I guess you can sign me up for more. If that was all he was doing, I might agree with you. You are not very informed about the Biden policies huh? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeTiger 5,084 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, auburn41 said: If that was all he was doing, I might agree with you. You are not very informed about the Biden policies huh? I do, and there's nothing 'socialist' or 'radical' in his policies. A vast majority of them are things that every other 1st world nation has been doing for a long time now that America has lagged on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,764 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 hours ago, homersapien said: Yeah, I will give someone a pass for something they did in college if they have corrected themselves So you will agree that democrats proceeded like pure a$$clowns per the Kavanaugh/Ford debacle….. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,764 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 8 hours ago, homersapien said: How the ‘Party of Lincoln’ Won Over the Once Democratic South Democratic defectors, known as the “Dixiecrats,” started a switch to the Republican party in a movement that was later fueled by a so-called "Southern strategy." Becky Little The night that Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, his special assistant Bill Moyers was surprised to find the president looking melancholy in his bedroom. Moyers later wrote that when he asked what was wrong, Johnson replied, “I think we just delivered the South to the Republican party for a long time to come.” It may seem a crude remark to make after such a momentous occasion, but it was also an accurate prediction. To understand some of the reasons the South went from a largely Democratic region to a primarily Republican area today, just follow the decades of debate over racial issues in the United States...... ........After that, the majority of the South still continued to vote Democratic because it thought of the Republican party as the party of Abraham Lincoln and Reconstruction. The big break didn’t come until President Johnson, another Southern Democrat, signed the Civil Rights Act in 1964 and the Voting Rights Act in 1965. Though some Democrats had switched to the Republican party prior to this, “the defections became a flood” after Johnson signed these acts, Goldfield says. “And so the political parties began to reconstitute themselves.” The change wasn’t total or immediate. During the late 1960s and early ‘70s, white Southerners were still transitioning away from the Democratic party (newly enfranchised black Southerners voted and continue to vote Democratic). And even as Republican Richard Nixon employed a “Southern strategy” that appealed to the racism of Southern white voters, former Alabama Governor George Wallace (who’d wanted “segregation now, segregation tomorrow, and segregation forever”) ran as a Democrat in the 1972 presidential primaries. By the time Ronald Reagan became president in 1980, the Republican party’s hold on white Southerners was firm. Today, the Republican party remains the party of the South. It’s an ironic outcome considering that a century ago, white Southerners would’ve never considered voting for the party of Lincoln. Read the complete piece at: https://www.history.com/news/how-the-party-of-lincoln-won-over-the-once-democratic-south Not denying the truth here Brother Homer. Lived through the period as youngster and you did as well. No means the majority but Wallace was considered an embarrassment to many Alabamians by 1972. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,354 Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 18 hours ago, auburn41 said: Of course I got no answer out of you about Ralph Northam. How about Sheldon Whitehouse and his "All White" beach club. Why aren't you up in arms about that? And to say I am calling all of the Dem party racist is your typical BS. I'm saying the racists in the Dem party get a pass from people like you because they are Dems. Calling up individuals for their behavior as a way to characterize large groups of people - in this case Democrats or progressives - is a fool's errand. As far as giving "passes" because a given individual belongs to a given political party, I don't do that. I base my reaction to individual on their specific case not the "tribe" they associate with. In the case of political parties, I pay more attention to what a party supports generally in the way of policies and values. Finally I find it particularly amusing and ironic that you are trying to demonize Democrats based on the behavior of certain individuals when the Republican party has now become the party of Trump. So continue your fool's errand. You are well qualified to do so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,131 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 13 hours ago, SaltyTiger said: No means the majority but Wallace was considered an embarrassment to many Alabamians by 1972. He was a skilled politician, though. The racist switch was flipped when he got thrashed in a primary against a KKK fire-breather. Prior to that he was a progressive and a liberal in the same vein as Jim Folsom, his mentor, even on matters of race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,354 Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 14 hours ago, SaltyTiger said: So you will agree that democrats proceeded like pure a$$clowns per the Kavanaugh/Ford debacle….. Well, I don't equate rape with wearing blackface at a fraternity party if that's what you're asking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn41 492 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, homersapien said: Calling up individuals for their behavior as a way to characterize large groups of people - in this case Democrats or progressives - is a fool's errand. I am not characterizing large groups of people based on individuals behavior. I am calling out YOUR non reaction to the examples I've pointed out. 20 minutes ago, homersapien said: As far as giving "passes" because a given individual belongs to a given political party, I don't do that. I base my reaction to individual on their specific case not the "tribe" they associate with. Clearly, as pointed out above you most certainly do give "passes" based on political party. Joe Biden, Sheldon Whitehouse, Ralph Northam are just a few examples recently where you were completely silent on this forum about their racist behavior. If any of them had been "R's" you would have posted more of your "blah, blah, blah racist Republican's" as per usual. In the case of political parties, I pay more attention to what a party supports generally in the way of policies and values. This statement above is just flat out BS. Own your actions!! Finally I find it particularly amusing and ironic that you are trying to demonize Democrats based on the behavior of certain individuals when the Republican party has now become the party of Trump. Again, I'm not "demonizing Democrats." that is your tactic in reverse. I am demonizing individuals for their behavior and you for your hypocrisy! So continue your fool's errand. You are well qualified to do so. Wow, more names....I guess it takes one to know one!!! Bite Me!!! 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn41 492 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, homersapien said: Well, I don't equate rape with wearing blackface at a fraternity party if that's what you're asking. Well you ASS. It was alleged ATTEMPTED rape with no effing proof compared to your boy admitting he was in the picture! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,354 Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, auburn41 said: I am not characterizing large groups of people based on individuals behavior. I am calling out YOUR non reaction to the examples I've pointed out. What makes you assume I had a non-reaction to any of the cases you bring up? You are making up lies about me. Again, I will concede their are idiots in the Democratic party (I am not a member as of yet ). I have no problem with acknowledging and or criticizing them and I have done so. Do you really want to get into a 'crazy person fight' considering the line-up you have in the Republican Party? Really? Like I have said, that's a fool's errand and I am no fool, at least about most things. Your mileage may be - and probably is - different. Edited July 9, 2021 by homersapien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,354 Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, auburn41 said: Well you ASS. It was alleged ATTEMPTED rape with no effing proof compared to your boy admitting he was in the picture! OK, I don't equate ATTEMPTED rape with wearing blackface at a frat party. Does that make me racist? Edited July 9, 2021 by homersapien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,354 Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/09/former-hill-aide-pleads-guilty-child-porn-498937 Former GOP Hill aide pleads guilty in child porn case Ruben Verastigui, 27, faces 12 years or more in prison under a deal with prosecutors. A former GOP staffer and Republican National Committee aide pleaded guilty Friday to a child pornography charge and is facing 12 years or more in prison under a plea deal with prosecutors. Ruben Verastigui, 27, entered the guilty plea from jail during a video conference hearing before U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta in Washington, D.C. According to an affidavit filed in the case in February by a Department of Homeland Security investigator, Verastigui sought out images of rape of children during an online chat last year. Prosecutors said Verastigui also fantasized online about killing children while abusing them. According to an affidavit filed in the case in February by a Department of Homeland Security investigator, Verastigui sought out images of rape of children during an online chat last year. Prosecutors said Verastigui also fantasized online about killing children while abusing them. The investigation, focused on a ring of at least 18 people trading child pornography via a chat group on an unnamed website, appears to have zeroed in on at least one other political staffer in Washington. Last November, a Trump Commerce Department political appointee, Adam Hageman, was arrested on charges he shared a child pornography video and commented on sexually abusing children. Hageman appears to have been set to enter a guilty plea in April, but court records do not indicate that hearing was ever held. Mehta accepted Verastigui’s guilty plea, but deferred a decision on whether to accept the roughly 12-to-15-year sentencing range prosecutors and Verastigui agreed to. Sentencing in his case is set for Oct. 12. Prosecutors said earlier this year that Verastigui could also face charges in Arizona over his online conduct, but the plea agreement he signed with the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Washington, D.C., precludes further charges in that state. Verastigui worked as digital director for the Joint Economic Committee in 2018 and as digital strategist for the Senate Republican Conference from 2019 to 2020, congressional payroll records show. He was also on the payroll of the RNC from 2017 to 2018, according to Federal Election Commission reports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn41 492 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 35 minutes ago, homersapien said: What makes you assume I had a non-reaction to any of the cases you bring up? Um, I not assuming anything. Just point me to your typical screed posts about how bad the Dems I mentioned behaved and how shameful it is for people to support them, the way you do whenever you post things about people with R's next to their names. Like the article you posted on this topic below about "Child Porn." I assume you put it here because the guy has an R next to his name. I'm sure only R's are guilty of these type transgressions. Thank you for proving my point. The SOB can rot in jail for all I care. The difference between you and me is, my outrage with people's behavior is not reserved for people I disagree with politically. You are making up lies about me. Tell me what lies I am making up about you???? Again, I will concede their are idiots in the Democratic party (I am not a member as of yet ). I have no problem with acknowledging and or criticizing them and I have done so. Show me where you have done that. Do you really want to get into a 'crazy person fight' considering the line-up you have in the Republican Party? Really? Like I have said, that's a fool's errand and I am no fool, at least about most things. Your mileage may be - and probably is - different. As I said before the name calling and smart ass quips get very old and you're not as funny or cute as you think! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,354 Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, auburn41 said: Sorry, but you expressed inadequate outrage over the Republican pedophile. That's soooo typical of you. You give everyone a pass as long as they are Republican. I haven't heard a word from you about how Republicans are trying to destroy our democracy. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/07/democracy-could-die-2024/619390/ You are so typical of Republicans with your MAGA-think. You make up s*** about me and then tell me to prove it's not true? It's not my job to prove your case. It's not my fault you are obsessed with me. I don't want to live in your head, you placed me there. So go play with yourself. Edited July 9, 2021 by homersapien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn41 492 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, homersapien said: Sorry You certainly are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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