You guys and your crazy Trump worship

[TexasTiger 12,829]

Freaking cult-like. 
 

 

[CoffeeTiger 5,099]

[SaltyTiger 7,789]

9 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

Freaking cult-like. 

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/columnists/christopher-maag/2021/01/12/cult-trump-can-fixed-but-takes-empathy-time-and-work/6613397002/

“Whether the movement is a cult or not, Power and other experts agree that the best way to defuse it is to treat Trump’s followers as if they were members of a cult.  

That means treating them like friends. 

It means asking questions, showing empathy, listening carefully and responding humanely, Power said. It means learning all we can about each individual’s wall of beliefs, and looking for cracks in the wall”

[SaltyTiger 7,789]

9 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

Freaking cult-like. 
 

 

Said he was running low on time

[CoffeeTiger 5,099]

3 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said:

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/columnists/christopher-maag/2021/01/12/cult-trump-can-fixed-but-takes-empathy-time-and-work/6613397002/

“Whether the movement is a cult or not, Power and other experts agree that the best way to defuse it is to treat Trump’s followers as if they were members of a cult.  

That means treating them like friends. 

It means asking questions, showing empathy, listening carefully and responding humanely, Power said. It means learning all we can about each individual’s wall of beliefs, and looking for cracks in the wall”

 

I have a better idea. We vote out the crazies and fix our gerrymandered and biased electoral system so that these Trump cultist no longer have  oversized influence and power over the U.S. government relative to their voting share?  Stop giving 100,000 people in the middle of Utah the exact same national political power as 1,000,000 people in New York have. 

Let them believe what they want, but stop giving them political power that they don't democratically earn or deserve. 

 

[jj3jordan 2,050]

26 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

 

I have a better idea. We vote out the crazies and fix our gerrymandered and biased electoral system so that these Trump cultist no longer have  oversized influence and power over the U.S. government relative to their voting share?  Stop giving 100,000 people in the middle of Utah the exact same national political power as 1,000,000 people in New York have. 

Let them believe what they want, but stop giving them political power that they don't democratically earn or deserve. 

 

And there you have it in a nutshell.  We can’t win 100% of the time so let’s remove our constitutional republic as founded and replace it with western style socialism/eventual communism where we can control everybody and every thing. You don’t agree with us and you forfeit your right to have a say. Thanks coffee you have made out case for us. Well done!

[SaltyTiger 7,789]

48 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

Stop giving 100,000 people in the middle of Utah the exact same national political power as 1,000,000 people in New York have. 

So let like minds in heavily populated areas control all?

[CoffeeTiger 5,099]

 

2 hours ago, jj3jordan said:

And there you have it in a nutshell.  We can’t win 100% of the time so let’s remove our constitutional republic as founded and replace it with western style socialism/eventual communism Democracy where we The Majority can control everybody and every thing The parts of the government that impacts them. You don’t agree with us and you forfeit your right to have a say That's fine, but it doesn't mean Majority opinion shouldn't prevail . Thanks coffee you have made out case for us  A very good case. Well done!

Made a few corrections for you. 

[CoffeeTiger 5,099]

1 hour ago, SaltyTiger said:

So let like minds in heavily populated areas control all?

No, more like stop letting like minds in very low populated areas control all. 

 

The Republican Party is the way it is now because they know they don't ever need popular or majority support to win elections and hold power in state or federal government.  Our current system doesn't give governmental representation to people, we give it to LAND area...that doesn't make any sense and is not Democratic. 

 

Edited September 17, 2021 by CoffeeTiger

[TexasTiger 12,829]

3 hours ago, SaltyTiger said:

Said he was running low on time

Had time for the extended rant afterwards, or did you watch that far?

[TexasTiger 12,829]

3 hours ago, SaltyTiger said:

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/columnists/christopher-maag/2021/01/12/cult-trump-can-fixed-but-takes-empathy-time-and-work/6613397002/

“Whether the movement is a cult or not, Power and other experts agree that the best way to defuse it is to treat Trump’s followers as if they were members of a cult.  

That means treating them like friends. 

It means asking questions, showing empathy, listening carefully and responding humanely, Power said. It means learning all we can about each individual’s wall of beliefs, and looking for cracks in the wall”

There’s some truth in that. Except it gets much more challenging when the cult-like group views you not just as outside the group, but an evil existential threat. 

[SaltyTiger 7,789]

2 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

Had time for the extended rant afterwards, or did you watch that far?

Watched a second time….he indeed pitched a fit. Reminded me of a liberal defending one of their causes

[TexasTiger 12,829]

2 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said:

Watched a second time….he indeed pitched a fit. Reminded me of a liberal defending one of their causes

He’ll not tolerate speaking ill of his lord. Unhinged. Christians don’t get that worked up over blasphemy— at least not since the inquisition. 😉

[SaltyTiger 7,789]

1 minute ago, TexasTiger said:

He’ll not tolerate speaking ill of his lord. Unhinged. Christians don’t get that worked up over blasphemy— at least not since the inquisition. 😉

What percentage of Trump supporters do you think qualify as a “cultist”? 

[TexasTiger 12,829]

29 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said:

What percentage of Trump supporters do you think qualify as a “cultist”? 

I’d say “cultish”— but don’t know the percentage. Most are capable of ignoring or excusing far more than reasonable folks should excuse or ignore. Folks as hardcore as this guy are much fewer in number, but it’s growing. It’s taken hold of folks I know that I would’ve never predicted would get so far in. Whatever the number, I suspect it’s ultimately enough to ruin us as a country because of support for breaking down democratic processes (2024 will be a disaster).  The ultra left that would embrace such things are smaller in number and largely not winning state primaries. Not so on the right. The Trumpists rule the Republican Party. I still think there’s a sizable middle, but they have a decreasing voice and I don’t readily see how they emerge in the current climate. In a parliamentary system they might save us.

[DKW 86 7,419]

What most of these people don’t understand is that this is what causes the most damage to their side in politics. No one understands this craziness. They are cutting their own throats talking and acting this way. 

[jj3jordan 2,050]

1 hour ago, CoffeeTiger said:

 

Made a few corrections for you. 

You are apparently not aware of your own party’s goals and objectives. Please do not edit my posts with your fantasies. 

[CoffeeTiger 5,099]

19 minutes ago, jj3jordan said:

You are apparently not aware of your own party’s goals and objectives. Please do not edit my posts with your fantasies. 

BOOOooooo!

[jj3jordan 2,050]

6 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

BOOOooooo!

At least you see yourself accurately.

[SaltyTiger 7,789]

16 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

Most are capable of ignoring or excusing far more than reasonable folks should excuse or ignore. 

Yep

[homersapien 11,362]

Anyone who actually supports Trump is part of the problem, call them whatever you'd like.

[DKW 86 7,419]

Do people actually support trump? Or could it be more like they just hate the Elites in our nation so much that they see him as a way to attack them? 

I hope THAT is actually the case.

https://nypost.com/2021/09/18/after-aocs-met-gala-stunt-im-officially-done-with-democrats/

After AOC’s Met Gala stunt, I’m officially done with Democrats

By 

Paula Froelich

September 18, 2021 8:25am 

 Updated

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's excesses at the Met Gala has cost her support.Getty Images for Met Museum

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WANTED: one honest, decent, middle-class politician who doesn’t want to be a rich celebrity. 

Just imagine Bronx-born, feminist Democratic Rep. Bella Abzug showing up to a $35,000-a-plate dinner in a dress that cost more than some people in her district made a year? And then staying for the pathetic vegan dinner to hobnob with the unimaginably wealthy celebrities and other “elites”? 

That’s what Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez did at the Met Gala on Monday, sporting an Aurora James gown that declared: TAX THE RICH. 

“The medium is the message . . . BEFORE anybody starts wilding out,” the congresswoman wrote on Instagram in response to critics calling her a hypocrite. “NYC elected officials are regularly invited to and attend the Met due to our responsibilities in overseeing our city’s cultural institutions that serve the public. I was one of several in attendance. Dress is borrowed.” 

The other public official in attendance? The local face of hypocrisy, nepotism and mismanagement, our universally be-loathed mayor, Bill de Blasio. 

Mayor de Blasio also attended Monday’s Met Gala.

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Where is the party of Ohio Sen. Howard Metzenbaum and astronaut John Glenn? Where is our Nellie Tayloe Ross (America’s first female governor) or Shirley Chisholm (first female presidential candidate)? People who went into politics not to make money or with an eye only for the next election, but for their constituents. 

While the Democrats scream about #MeToo and social justice, Bill Clinton (the self-proclaimed “first black president”), an accused rapist, proven liar, friend to pedo-perv Jeffrey Epstein and craven social climber, is still lauded as a hero in the Hamptons — as is his wife, Hillary. Meanwhile, Hillary still can’t understand why she lost the election (Russian interference! Media manipulation! Misogyny!) and still doesn’t get that the majority of Americans who earn under $10 million a year and don’t live in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco still remember the economic disaster of 2008, when she was a powerful New York senator and absolved the craven bankers, looking the other way as they got bailed out as Main Street suffered. America’s fury was compounded when it was revealed that, after she left the State Department, she was paid up to $225,000 per speech and earned more than $3 million from addressing financial firms. During one of these speeches at Goldman Sachs — one of the biggest villains of the market crash — she called attendees, including CEO Lloyd Blankfein, “the smartest people” for supporting her. 

 

 

AOC wears 'tax the rich' dress at Met Gala 2021

 

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As one Democratic state official in Kentucky, who distanced themselves from the Clintons during the 2016 election, told me about Bill and Hill: “They’re like the reverse Midas Touch. Everything they touch turns to (bleep) while they get rich. They’ll say anything but just do as they please.” 

Then there’s their friend, former President Barack Obama (the first black president), who failed to deal with the looming tech monopolies and instead courted the overlords instead of regulating them. He backed his aide Larry Summers’ disastrous economic plan that screwed Main Street while rewarding big banks, failed to pass comprehensive immigration reform, and turned a blind eye to Syria (even when Assad sniffed at Obama’s “red line” of using gas on his people). 

Obama, who feted A-listers such as Dwayne Wade and Bradley Cooper at his 60th birthday bash in Martha’s Vineyard this summer, now seems to be burnishing his new title: Celebrity Sycophant in Chief. 

Bill Clinton’s various crimes and Hillary Clinton’s open corruption has made it impossible to support the Dems.

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And of course, there’s our current Bumbler in Chief, President Joe Biden, who has put our country in danger multiple times since taking office. From the abominable pullout of Afghanistan, where he literally armed the Taliban by leaving Bagram Airfield full of weapons and working machinery (not to mention leaving behind desperate Americans and people who aided Americans) to the $3.2 trillion “infrastructure bill” full of pet projects and cash grabs that will cause inflation to balloon. And let’s not forget him shrugging as his grifter-turned-artist son, who has peddled his influence to foreign powers, now sells his work through a questionable gallery to blind bidders. 

A former FBI agent in the art crimes unit fumed to me: “During the Obama administration, Biden was all about backing transparency in the art market — now he doesn’t care because his son decides to be an artist and needs a job?” 

Obama spent his time in office rewarding big banks in favor of Main Street. Now he parties with celebrities.

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I am ashamed to admit: I voted for them all (with the exception of AOC, who is not in my district). Because I felt I had no other option. The right is too far right and the left has now become unrecognizable with #defundthepolice and insane handouts that stagnate our economy. It pains me that I fell for the promised equity of Main Street and tax parity time and time again. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me five times, well. Let’s just say I’m done. 

The fish stinks from the head down. 

It is time for our system to open up and truly become a democracy for all, with representation for all, by expanding beyond the two-party system. With people who mean what they say and say what they mean, and who will fight — not to stay in power and enrich themselves, but for the people they represent. 

 

Edited September 19, 2021 by DKW 86

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On 9/17/2021 at 12:20 PM, SaltyTiger said:

So let like minds in heavily populated areas control all?

How's that any worse than letting fewer like minds who live in less densely populated areas control all?

[wdefromtx 3,159]

Seems like the people that are not Trump supporters are more obsessed about him than Trump supporters. Maybe it’s still TDS. 

[aubaseball 2,592]

On 9/17/2021 at 11:30 AM, CoffeeTiger said:

 

I have a better idea. We vote out the crazies and fix our gerrymandered and biased electoral system so that these Trump cultist no longer have  oversized influence and power over the U.S. government relative to their voting share?  Stop giving 100,000 people in the middle of Utah the exact same national political power as 1,000,000 people in New York have. 

Let them believe what they want, but stop giving them political power that they don't democratically earn or deserve. 

 

Retarded.   It’s not how it works.   And you think 1 million people in NYC deserve the honor of telling everyone else in the USA how the country will run?   That’s absolutely retarded.  You must up in NYC smokin the weed.