AU North 164 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 It's no wonder we have increased our off-field FB staff. Looks like we are going to need their help more than we realized at the time. wde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strychnine 1,802 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, selias said: You really think the rigors of recruiting are recognized by recruits? 18 year old kids, living their best life by being courted by college coaches give even a passing thought to the necessities of what those coaches and staffs are going through? You were clearly a much more worldly and analytical teenager than me. He probably had an idea of what he was getting into, but I doubt it came from his time as a recruit. That said, there is a difference between having an idea of what you are getting into, and actually getting into it. After a month of recruiting, I can easily see someone that had never done it before, deciding it was worse than they thought. NFL QB coach was probably more of a day job than college coaching. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Tiger 4,261 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, passthebiscuits said: Cough cough… waiting. The ego crowd is too busy wiping egg away. Edited January 31, 2022 by Proud Tiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPTiger 5,150 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Davis wasn't heavily recruited out of high school. He was a walk-on football player at So Miss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank2020 3,195 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Tiger Refuge said: Yeah, the rest of his statement feels a lot like the time that girl backed out of my date offer only to see her at the party with another dude later. She just sobered up. Maybe that happened to Davis. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didba 5,256 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, wildlife alumni said: So, is it to early to speculate on the next OC? I figure CH will need to take his time and get it right. Does he try the NFL route again? D. Craig? McGee? Kiesau 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randman5000 4,223 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Strychnine said: He probably had an idea of what he was getting into, but I doubt it came from his time as a recruit. That said, there is a difference between having an idea of what you are getting into, and actually getting into it. After a month of recruiting, I can easily see someone that had never done it before, deciding it was worse than they thought. NFL QB coach was probably more of a day job than college coaching. I really just don't buy that he was 'overwhelmed' with recruiting. Seems like people trying to reach. The guy is a professional, did his homework when he needed to and moved across the country to work with Harsin in the SEC. He knew what he was getting into... He knows football. He's from Mississippi. I think he's got some family issues or some personal stuff he needs to take care of. It's not good but this recruiting stuff sounds like bull 💩 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didba 5,256 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, passthebiscuits said: Cough cough… waiting. keep on waiting. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meh130 1,043 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 A error on the USA Today/Auburn Wire story from December on Reeder. They made references to "this past season", when they meant 2020, not 2021. Reeder was not on the Utah State staff in 2021. He was the OC for Utah State in 2020 under Gary Andersen. Andersen was fired 3 games into the 2020 season. I don't think any of Andersen's staff was retained. Blake Anderson (from Arkansas State) was hired to replace Gary Andersen, and Blake brought in Anthony Tucker from UCF as his OC. The 2020 season for Utah State was a disaster. It was a pandemic shortened 8-game season. One game was cancelled due to COVID. They fired their head coach 3 games in. The players supported interim HC Frank Maile for permanent HC. The president of the university in a Zoom call with the team said they would not retain Maile and then went on to make disparaging comments about Maile. That caused the players to boycott the final game. So they only played 6 total games. This is the season the USA Today article refers to. Regarding Reeder, he had success at Eastern Washington, but not at North Texas or Utah State. He clearly needs more seasoning before taking on a Power 5 OC role, but as QB coach only, he may have potential. https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/12/22/22194392/utah-state-football-opt-put-noelle-cockett-mark-hartwell-frank-maile-mountain-west-conference 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didba 5,256 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 @icanthearyou Still waiting on your breakdown that explains how Gus's offensive scheme is better/more complex than Harsin's? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meh130 1,043 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Another point that I believe is being missed. A "personal issue" and a "family situation" have both been mentioned. And "being overwhelmed with the job/recruiting" has been mentioned. Is it not possible the two are related? That Davis has a "family situation" right now, at this moment, and because of that the prospect of doing the job right, right now, at this moment is "overwhelming"? What if the "family situation" is a medium-term or longer situation, and not something that can be addressed in a week or two? That to me, makes a lot more sense of the "overwhelmed" comment, which may have been taken out of context. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUght2win 6,816 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I fault Davis for not being up front and honest, but I fault Harsin more for the hire in hindsight. Think about it this way: CBH really went out on a limb with the hire of AD. The guy is 32, no college experience, no coordinator experience. Those are major missing prerequisites. But it's okay if those are offset by something CBH sees in AD or understood about him. If I'm a coach, I'm only hiring a guy like AD if I'm certain that the dude is hungry, I mean absolutely CHOMPING at the bit for the job. I can look past the lack of experience if I really believe a guy is tenacious, a winner, and is going to absolutely buy-in. While CBH may not have picked up on personal issues going on with AD, there's absolutely no way a guy like AD could be exuding the tenacity and enthusiasm I'm referring to, given what we now know. So it looks really, really, really bad in totality. I mean. What did Harsin see in this guy, if he wasn't even chomping at the bit to come here? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randman5000 4,223 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 42 minutes ago, meh130 said: Given Kiesau has 7 seasons of prior OC experience, and was a finalist to be the new Head Coach at Boise State, this makes little sense. It's lame thing to say when it's not true. And it also sounds stupid when he takes the job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco 617 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, meh130 said: Regarding Reeder, he had success at Eastern Washington, but not at North Texas or Utah State. He clearly needs more seasoning before taking on a Power 5 OC role, but as QB coach only, he may have potential. https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/12/22/22194392/utah-state-football-opt-put-noelle-cockett-mark-hartwell-frank-maile-mountain-west-conference You know. We just hired a guy who’s been a NFL positional coach for less than two years because of Pete and Russell’s stamp of approval. Don’t think the lack of experience is a hinderance at this point lol. But honestly would be shocked if Kiesau isn’t promoted to OC and Reeder isn’t promoted to QB coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco 617 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Didba said: @icanthearyou Still waiting on your breakdown that explains how Gus's offensive scheme is better/more complex than Harsin's? The wishbone offense is too complex to breakdown lol /s (included just for you so I don’t start a war) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper 3,120 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 15 hours ago, cbo said: Lots of different rumors about the “why.” Whatever the reason, this is a bad look. Harsin has either been extremely unlucky or completely incompetent at hiring coaches. I wasn’t even a huge fan of the Davis hire, but the bleeding has to stop. The bad and puzzling signs are mounting. Bu-bu-bu-bu-but we have to give Harsin at least 3 years to get his guys in and right the ship. Why? Because the aufamily pumpers said so. And that’s the bottom line cuzzz… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didba 5,256 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Taco said: The wishbone offense is too complex to breakdown lol /s (included just for you so I don’t start a war) I probably would've caught the sarcasm but the /s is still appreciated because you never know with my partly malfunctioning brain at times 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abw0004 10,104 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, Didba said: @icanthearyou Still waiting on your breakdown that explains how Gus's offensive scheme is better/more complex than Harsin's? I see you have been properly welcomed to the forum by him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye67 1,937 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 16 hours ago, cbo said: this is a bad look. Welcome to the Harsin Era (so far) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didba 5,256 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, abw0004 said: I see you have been properly welcomed to the forum by him ah... is he well known for throwing out facepalms but not having the cojones to put forth any substantive response? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye67 1,937 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 5 hours ago, gctiger said: "THERE ARE NO POTATOES IN AUBURN ALABAMA" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abw0004 10,104 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 @passthebiscuits just casually walking in here after his prophesy six months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat 569 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Meanwhile…Alabama swiftly hires the Kentucky OL coach to replace Doug Marrone….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abw0004 10,104 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Didba said: ah... is he well known for throwing out facepalms but not having the cojones to put forth any substantive response? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e808 3,020 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Even though the red flags are mounting just need to get through the 2022 season. Winning will cure alot of this 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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