Coach Harsin Quotes on First Practice

[Didba 5,256]

3 hours ago, abw0004 said:

I am not sure it that makes me feel better or worse in Auburn's case.  

To be fair Ashford balled out in Oregon's spring game.  He wasn't incompetent, the other guys were just a little better and balled out a little harder.

[AUloggerhead 2,225]

12 hours ago, Gowebb11 said:

I encourage you to go check Oregon’s roster. Ashford was one of 3 freshman QBs. One was the nations 40th ranked recruit, one was 147th, and Ashford was the 290th. Plus a proven grad transfer. Hard for me to understand how that is running away from competition. 

I checked it out & you are correct:  Bo will be in the thick of an intense competition for the Oregon QB1 job with two other redshirt freshmen QBs. 

In addition to returning to his home state, Ashford also made the decision to concentrate on football at AU rather than continue with being a 2-sport college athlete (baseball.)  I think this is an example of his maturity rather than evidence of him running from competition.    

[maryland tiger 611]

1 hour ago, Didba said:

I love that this got a like from one of the people being referred to in my post.

Simply not true! Everything I've posted has come with context. I have nothing to gain by demeaning a college athlete. 

Edited March 31, 2022 by maryland tiger

[cbo 7,802]

5 hours ago, bigbird said:

4 years 1231 =~308 att/yr

3 years 1057 =~352 att/yr

 

White 

'90 338/12 = 28.2 att/gm  6.6 Y/A

'91 327/11 = 29.7 att/gm  6.1 Y/A

'92 305/11 = 27.7 att/gm. 5.9 Y/A

'93 271/11 = 24.6 att/gm 7.6 Y/A

~ 27.7 att/gm  6.55 Y/A  for White's career

 

Nix 

'19  373/13 = 28.7 att/gm  6.7 Y/A

'20  357/11 = 32.5 att/gm 6.8 Y/A

'21 323/10 = 32.3 att/gm 7.1 Y/A

~ 31.2 att/gm  6.67 Y/A for Nix's career

 

 

With more attempts per game and a higher yard/attempt, Nix should have passed White. There are multiple reasons for that beyond Nix was better than White or any other QB he surpassed.  

 

Who was the better back?

Rudi Johnson or Phil Gargis?

Here is their career yardage...

RJ: 1567 yds

PG: 1879 yds

 

Era matters, attempts matter, offensive style matters, rule changes matter. Only the disingenuous would try to prop up such a weak stat. All time passing leader at Auburn is like the all-time rusher under Mike leach. Not a big deal.

Everything you said is true and properly illuminates why this stat fails to prove anything about Bo. 

But, just for fun, I will add that Bo is not even the all time passing leader. In fact, he is third, behind Stan and Campbell. His rushing yards are what put him at first in the total offensive yards stat. It would be pretty difficult for any QB to start 3 years in this era without breaking this record, but who cares about that. 

[bigbird 60,368]

3 hours ago, Mikey said:

A guy who played one year at Auburn isn't going to be on any career stat list. DUH!

Passing touchdown 

#10

Career Rank Player TDs Years 1 Pat Sullivan 53 1969 1970 1971 2 Jarrett Stidham 48 2015 2017 2018 3 Jason Campbell 45 2001 2002 2003 2004 4 Brandon Cox 42 2004 2005 2006 2007 5 Stan White 40 1990 1991 1992 1993 6 Dameyune Craig 39 1994 1995 1996 1997   Bo Nix 39[3] 2019 2020 2021 8 Nick Marshall 34[4] 2013 2014 9 Patrick Nix 31 1992 1993 1994 1995 10 Cam Newton 30 2010

  

Passing touchdowns 

#10

Career Rank Player TDs Years 1 Pat Sullivan 53 1969 1970 1971 2 Jarrett Stidham 48 2015 2017 2018 3 Jason Campbell 45 2001 2002 2003 2004 4 Brandon Cox 42 2004 2005 2006 2007 5 Stan White 40 1990 1991 1992 1993 6 Dameyune Craig 39 1994 1995 1996 1997   Bo Nix 39[3] 2019 2020 2021 8 Nick Marshall 34[4] 2013 2014 9 Patrick Nix 31 1992 1993 1994 1995 10 Cam Newton 30 2010

 

Single game

 #6

Rank	Player	Yards	Year	Opponent
1	Curtis Kuykendall	307	1944	Miami (FL)
2	Tre Mason	304[11]	2013	Missouri[9]
3	Bo Jackson	290	1985	Southwestern Louisiana
4	Bo Jackson	256	1983	Alabama
5	Joe Cribbs	250	1978	Georgia
6	Rudi Johnson	249	2000	Louisiana Tech
7	Stephen Davis	246	1994	Arkansas
8	Bo Jackson	242	1985	Georgia Tech
9	Bo Jackson	240	1985	Ole Miss
10	Kamryn Pettway	236[12]	2016	Ole Miss

 

 

There are others, but I got bored

[bigbird 60,368]

1 hour ago, Didba said:

To be fair Ashford balled out in Oregon's spring game.  He wasn't incompetent, the other guys were just a little better and balled out a little harder.

That happens when you show up to campus with an injury and the others dont

[bigbird 60,368]

12 minutes ago, cbo said:

Everything you said is true and properly illuminates why this stat fails to prove anything about Bo. 

But, just for fun, I will add that Bo is not even the all time passing leader. In fact, he is third, behind Stan and Campbell. His rushing yards are what put him at first in the total offensive yards stat. It would be pretty difficult for any QB to start 3 years in this era without breaking this record, but who cares about that. 

Oh I definitely was going to point out the difference between all-time passer and all-time offensive leader, but I was saving that.

It's straining at gnats...for 6 years.

[augolf1716 21,096]

1 hour ago, bigbird said:

It's straining at gnats...for 6 years.

Seems a lot longer

[Didba 5,256]

2 hours ago, maryland tiger said:

Simply not true! Everything I've posted has come with context. I have nothing to gain by demeaning a college athlete. 

Huh? I wasn't referring to you but he who must not be named.

[DAG 33,955]

1 hour ago, Didba said:

Huh? I wasn't referring to you but he who must not be named.

FYI, I know you said your bar is coming up soon. Definitely will be praying for you . I just took my boards today for psych NP and passed. Good luck to your brother. Now back to regular programming. 

Edited March 31, 2022 by DAG

[Didba 5,256]

5 minutes ago, DAG said:

FYI, I know you said your bar is coming up soon. Definitely will be praying for you . I just to my boards today for psych NP and passed. Good luck to your brother. Now back to regular programming. 

I appreciate that and congratulations to you!

The bar is in late July so I'll be finishing up this last semester taking finals and switching gears to cram for the Bar for 10 weeks straight. Its the kinda exam where you just have to study hard for about 500 hours and you will pass just fine.  School makes us take a Bar preview course as well this last semester that starts laying the foundation for studying.

[AUwent 3,747]

I’m sick of people acting like Nix was some unique bust. News flash, there hasn’t been a single Auburn QB out of HS since Jason who met expectations. 

Edited March 31, 2022 by AUwent

[bigbird 60,368]

2 hours ago, DAG said:

FYI, I know you said your bar is coming up soon. Definitely will be praying for you . I just took my boards today for psych NP and passed. Good luck to your brother. Now back to regular programming. 

Freaking awesome!  Way to go, buddy. I know it's been a lot of work. Great job!

[DAG 33,955]

39 minutes ago, bigbird said:

Freaking awesome!  Way to go, buddy. I know it's been a lot of work. Great job!

Thank you kind sir. Everybody thought I was crazy for rejecting CRNA and going down this path but the way things are now, I am so happy I did! 

[bigbird 60,368]

Just now, DAG said:

Thank you kind sir. Everybody thought I was crazy for rejecting CRNA and going down this path but the way things are now, I am so happy I did! 

I bet CRNA school is no joke

[DAG 33,955]

2 minutes ago, bigbird said:

I bet CRNA school is no joke

It is insane. You are immersed in study and clinical for 3 whole years. I have two friends going through it and I don't envy them although they will be set for life with longevity in job status when they are done. 

[bigbird 60,368]

Just now, DAG said:

It is insane. You are immersed in study and clinical for 3 whole years. I have two friends going through it and I don't envy them although they will be set for life with longevity in job status when they are done. 

And write their own check

[cbo 7,802]

4 minutes ago, DAG said:

Thank you kind sir. Everybody thought I was crazy for rejecting CRNA and going down this path but the way things are now, I am so happy I did! 

Congrats, DAG. I know enough through my own profession to understand that is not an easy feat. Now go get and enjoy that hard earned money. 

[Mikey 16,550]

10 hours ago, cbo said:

But, just for fun, I will add that Bo is not even the all time passing leader. In fact, he is third, behind Stan and Campbell. His rushing yards are what put him at first in the total offensive yards stat.

But wasn't it great, watching him run for all those key first downs and the occasional TD? Meanwhile, rushing yards, passing yards, whatever.  Bo Nix is Auburn's all-time offense leader.

[Mikey 16,550]

10 hours ago, bigbird said:

There are others, but I got bored

I should have posted, AT THE TOP of any career stat list, which none are. By the way, at the top is where Bo Nix is.

[Mikey 16,550]

12 hours ago, bigbird said:

More attempts + higher Y/A = more yardage. 

It does not mean better quarterback

 

Is that confusing to anyone else besides Mikey?

 

Is the fact that Stan White had 1231 attempts and that's more attempts than Nix's 1057 confusing to anyone but bigbird?

Why do you keep trying to claim that 1231 is a smaller number than 1057? Summer school will be coming soon, maybe you should consider a remedial arithmetic course.

Edited April 1, 2022 by Mikey

[cbo 7,802]

30 minutes ago, Mikey said:

But wasn't it great, watching him run for all those key first downs and the occasional TD? Meanwhile, rushing yards, passing yards, whatever.  Bo Nix is Auburn's all-time offense leader.

It really was great watching those moments. He made some exciting things happen for Auburn. I'm sure someone could put together an amazing highlight reel of Bo over his three years. 

But much more often than those moments were the mistakes by Bo. Ignoring every coach ever by bailing on the pocket early, running back 20 yards, and throwing off his back foot. Missing wide open WRs down field. Throwing bad INTs. Crumbling against elite D's.

Bo had his moments but when he was off, he was waaaay off. No consistency.

The craziest thing to me is the same people who tend to badmouth players and oppose players' rights will bend over backwards to defend Bo. Even when he yelled at his teammates and threw his tantrums. Even when he transferred out when he had a great shot at starting again. Even when his family whined about Auburn fans after he left. Why does Bo get the benefit of the doubt from some more than any other player?

[NWALA Tiger 3,535]

I honestly thought nobody could take Gus's place in Mikey's heart. But I think Bo has managed to do it. 

[bigbird 60,368]

7 hours ago, Mikey said:

I should have posted, AT THE TOP of any career stat list, which none are. By the way, at the top is where Bo Nix is.

[bigbird 60,368]

7 hours ago, Mikey said:

Is the fact that Stan White had 1231 attempts and that's more attempts than Nix's 1057 confusing to anyone but bigbird?

Obviously 

 

7 hours ago, Mikey said:

Why do you keep trying to claim that 1231 is a smaller number than 1057?

Show me where I did. Nix had more attempts per game and per year than Nix. Fact.

7 hours ago, Mikey said:

Summer school will be coming soon, maybe you should consider a remedial arithmetic course.

I've already shown the math. It checks out.  You're more than welcome to double check it and let us know where I went wrong.