Y'all Wanna See Something Cool About Harsin's Offensive Scheme?

[Didba 5,256]

Check out the 00 personnel scheme and the routes being ran on Holden's drive.  This stuff is what I envisioned when Harsin talked about his scheme when he first came here along with the TE heavy sets.

 

I swear I have not seen this type of  offensive scheme at Auburn for 15 years or more.  So when I have stated in the past part of the reason I am so high on Harsin is his NFL type Offensive scheme this is the stuff I am on about + the heavy TE sets.

 

 

Edited April 13, 2022 by Didba

[CCTAU 3,309]

I still felt he had an allergic reaction to the left side of the field.

I know. Baby steps. He looked really good for a guy that just showed up on campus.

[Tiger1992 999]

That throw on 4th & 8 at the 2:15 mark is oh so pretty.

[Cardin Drake 1,821]

I'm seeing a QB who knows where his open receiver is and gets rid of the ball quickly. Mobile to boot.  I'll be surprised if he is not starting soon.

[rexbo 104]

If the offensive game plan is to flood the short routes with our 3 dozen TEs, we're going to nickel and dime our way down the field and end up with lots of FGs.  My gut tells me we are going to lose a number of close games this year from kicking FGs instead of punching it in.

We're going to have to find an explosive receiver, like KC had with Tyreek Hill to balance out Kelce, or we are going to have to figure out some really crafty goal line plays.  I thought KC over the past few years had done a fantastic job coming up with high percentage goal line plays, but that's what cost them against Cincinnati in the playoffs.

[80Tiger 899]

21 minutes ago, rexbo said:

If the offensive game plan is to flood the short routes with our 3 dozen TEs, we're going to nickel and dime our way down the field and end up with lots of FGs.  My gut tells me we are going to lose a number of close games this year from kicking FGs instead of punching it in.

We're going to have to find an explosive receiver, like KC had with Tyreek Hill to balance out Kelce, or we are going to have to figure out some really crafty goal line plays.  I thought KC over the past few years had done a fantastic job coming up with high percentage goal line plays, but that's what cost them against Cincinnati in the playoffs.

I tend to agree, but it was A Day and near the end of the game. A lot of timing routes, but IF this is the desired offense, to Rexbo's point, if we can't stretch the field with talented outside receivers, then you do get a lot of bogging down.

You can't make too much out of it either way, bad or good.  It was a chance for the guy deepest on the depth chart to get some throws and he probably had a limited playbook he had practiced with.

[Didba 5,256]

3 hours ago, rexbo said:

If the offensive game plan is to flood the short routes with our 3 dozen TEs, we're going to nickel and dime our way down the field and end up with lots of FGs.  My gut tells me we are going to lose a number of close games this year from kicking FGs instead of punching it in.

We're going to have to find an explosive receiver, like KC had with Tyreek Hill to balance out Kelce, or we are going to have to figure out some really crafty goal line plays.  I thought KC over the past few years had done a fantastic job coming up with high percentage goal line plays, but that's what cost them against Cincinnati in the playoffs.

I think once you get inside the ten you have to switch into 13 personnel to force the defense to commit linebackers onto the field to stop the run heavy formations and the pass to a tightend on a delayed block route whose matched up on a LBer.

Edited April 13, 2022 by Didba

[au302 2,669]

2 hours ago, rexbo said:

If the offensive game plan is to flood the short routes with our 3 dozen TEs, we're going to nickel and dime our way down the field and end up with lots of FGs.  My gut tells me we are going to lose a number of close games this year from kicking FGs instead of punching it in.

We're going to have to find an explosive receiver, like KC had with Tyreek Hill to balance out Kelce, or we are going to have to figure out some really crafty goal line plays.  I thought KC over the past few years had done a fantastic job coming up with high percentage goal line plays, but that's what cost them against Cincinnati in the playoffs.

I agree. That was our issue last year. No explosives. Nickel and diming is tough because you gotta execute a lot of plays to sustain drives. Get enough 3rd and 6's and it's tough to keep sustaining that to punch it in. My hope this year is that with bigger armed QB's and quick receivers like MJJ, JJ, Dawson, and Fair that we can try to use their speed to take the top off every so often and create some explosives. Not getting my hopes up, but it's our best chance

[bigbird 60,483]

2 hours ago, rexbo said:

If the offensive game plan is to flood the short routes with our 3 dozen TEs, we're going to nickel and dime our way down the field and end up with lots of FGs.  My gut tells me we are going to lose a number of close games this year from kicking FGs instead of punching it in.

We're going to have to find an explosive receiver, like KC had with Tyreek Hill to balance out Kelce, or we are going to have to figure out some really crafty goal line plays.  I thought KC over the past few years had done a fantastic job coming up with high percentage goal line plays, but that's what cost them against Cincinnati in the playoffs.

Not necessarily. TEs feast in the RedZone. They are matchup nightmares and pick specialist

[Didba 5,256]

53 minutes ago, bigbird said:

Not necessarily. TEs feast in the RedZone. They are matchup nightmares and pick specialist

especially when utilizing run heavy formations like 13 personnel. Defense has to respect the run and put more LBers or DL on the field.

Edited April 13, 2022 by Didba

[bigbird 60,483]

2 minutes ago, Didba said:

especially when utilizing run heavy formations like 12 personnel. Defense has to respect the run and put more LBers or DL on the field.

One of the most difficult is a tight bunch out of 12 or 13.  You can't account for the wash, everyone gets picked and if you align your corner 3x3 to take away the slide, the TE just seals and squats. 

[Didba 5,256]

13 minutes ago, bigbird said:

One of the most difficult is a tight bunch out of 12 or 13.  You can't account for the wash, everyone gets picked and if you align your corner 3x3 to take away the slide, the TE just seals and squats. 

Kind of hokey to use madden plays but this will help people visualize what we are talking about.  So many different play out of these two formations are deadly in the redzone.

>the 13 personnel set I was speaking to above:

https://www.madden-school.com/playbooks/tampa-bay-buccaneers/offense/singleback/wing-pair/

>the bunch set BigBird is talking about:

https://www.madden-school.com/playbooks/tampa-bay-buccaneers/offense/singleback/bunch-ace/

Edited April 13, 2022 by Didba

[McLoofus 35,182]

On 4/13/2022 at 12:31 PM, bigbird said:

Not necessarily. TEs feast in the RedZone. They are matchup nightmares and pick specialist

I know you're the choir on this but I fully believe we have a dream red zone target in Landen King. He could maybe be a bigger Seth Williams. 

 

[bigbird 60,483]

1 hour ago, McLoofus said:

I know you're the choir on this but I fully believe we have a dream red zone target in Landen King. He could maybe be a bigger Seth Williams. 

 

Missed you, glad to see you back

[McLoofus 35,182]

8 minutes ago, bigbird said:

Missed you, glad to see you back

Kind words. It was a nice break from reality in the mountains. Well, some reality. My wife, daughter and son- especially my son- were fully present every step of the way, lol. 

[bigbird 60,483]

53 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

Kind words. It was a nice break from reality in the mountains. Well, some reality. My wife, daughter and son- especially my son- were fully present every step of the way, lol. 

It's nice to disconnect. We spent a week in the Arkansas Ozarks in January. It was awesome.

[McLoofus 35,182]

1 hour ago, bigbird said:

It's nice to disconnect. We spent a week in the Arkansas Ozarks in January. It was awesome.

Beautiful country up there! 

We hope to do some canoe camping in the Buffalo when the kids are a little older.

Edit: ON. We hope to canoe camp ON the Buffalo. Think we'll have better luck getting the kids back out there if we don't camp IN the river. 

Edited April 15, 2022 by McLoofus

[augolf1716 21,102]

23 hours ago, bigbird said:

Missed you, glad to see you back

We did???

[bigbird 60,483]

10 minutes ago, augolf1716 said:

We did???

Yes, but you forgot already.

[augolf1716 21,102]

20 minutes ago, bigbird said:

Yes, but you forgot already.

So what's your point?

[bigbird 60,483]

7 minutes ago, augolf1716 said:

So what's your point?

My beak

[wcware 1,365]

3 hours ago, bigbird said:

My beak

Is that what your calling it now?

[bigbird 60,483]

35 minutes ago, wcware said:

Is that what your calling it now?

Careful, my pecker has a mind of its own. 😁

[WFE12 9,191]

On 4/15/2022 at 11:07 AM, bigbird said:

It's nice to disconnect. We spent a week in the Arkansas Ozarks in January. It was awesome.

Hmm..Ozarks you say? I knew you were hiding something 

[AuburnEagle79 2,165]

There is no reason that we can't hit a TE or slot for 4-5 yards every drop back if the protection is there. 

Soften them up on the short passing game and Tank, and you'd think we'd have some over the top PA opportunities.