Trump’s Coup Memo Lawyer Is Trying to Hide, Oh, Only 37,000 Pages of Emails From the Jan. 6 Committee

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Trump’s Coup Memo Lawyer Is Trying to Hide, Oh, Only 37,000 Pages of Emails From the Jan. 6 Committee

 

John Eastman and Phil Waldron, two of the architects of the former president’s push to overturn the 2020 election, are doing all they can to keep their records private

John Eastman speaks on Thursday, April 29, 2021.

Andy Cross/MediaNews Group/The Denver Post/Getty Images

The contents of a public figure’s private communication are almost always revelatory, and in the case of Donald Trump, a group of lawyers and peripheral figures in the former president’s orbit are currently engaged in a Herculean struggle to prevent an enormous trove of documents from ever coming to light. 

The combined evidence is potentially staggering. Politico reported Monday night that Trump attorney John Eastman is stubbornly insisting his attorney-client privilege prevented him from turning over 37,000 pages of emails related to his work for the former president to the Jan. 6 committee. Simultaneously, Phil Waldron, a former Army colonel who has been instrumental in propagating the Trump campaign’s claims of fraud and is responsible for a widely circulated PowerPoint about how to overturn the election, is suing the committee to block it from obtaining his phone records.

Eastman and Waldron’s records may or may not contain incriminating ties between Trump and the events of Jan. 6, but going to such lengths to prevent the committee from getting ahold of them certainly arouses suspicion. This evidence will most likely come to light eventually. U.S. District Court Judge David Carter, who is overseeing the Eastman case, has already said that Trump and Eastman “likely” conspired to obstruct Congress from finding records about Eastman’s also-illegal plan to throw out electors from several states in the 2020 election. But what the Trump network can do here is stall, which is exactly what you’re seeing. 

Eastman’s claim of lawyer-client privilege has allowed him to draw out a lengthy process of reviewing thousands of thousands of pages of communications to discern the ones he wants to go to court to keep sealed. So far, that’s around 3,264 documents, totaling 37,650 pages, according to Eastman’s lawyer. Carter has already had to order Eastman to speed up his review once, back in January. 

Waldron’s strategy to protect phone records is the same. Tying all of this up under a mound of legal proceedings draws out the committee’s actual findings and means that whatever eventually does come out could get lost in the storm of constant bull**** emanating from Trump’s orbit. They’re even using some of the same arguments: Politico reports that Waldron’s lawsuit to protect his phone records uses what is now a canned and recycled line that the Jan. 6 committee has no valid purpose and is politically biased because it doesn’t have any Republicans appointed by House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (McCarthy withdrew his appointees last year in protest). 

Meanwhile, Trump appears to be already campaigning for 2024. If his army of cronies can waffle and stall for the next year or two —which seems entirely possible given the incredibly slow wheels of congressional justice — he might just get re-elected before any of this can fully come to light. 

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[jj3jordan 2,039]

Seems fair. A few more than Hillary but ball park. 

[bigbird 60,368]

He should just bleach his computer...

 

It'd be wrong to do, but...

[DKW 86 7,410]

Please, dont feed the Whataboutism Trolls...

[wdefromtx 3,159]

[homersapien 11,352]

5 hours ago, wdefromtx said:

So, can I take it you actually believe Trump actually won? 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 20, 2022 by homersapien

[wdefromtx 3,159]

10 minutes ago, homersapien said:

So, can I take it you actually believe Trump actually won? 

 

 

 

 

How do you come to that conclusion? 
 

 

[homersapien 11,352]

3 minutes ago, wdefromtx said:

How do you come to that conclusion? 
 

 

You seem to be criticizing those who recognize Trump for what he is, which is basically supporting him.

Believing the big lie would confirm it.

[wdefromtx 3,159]

2 minutes ago, homersapien said:

You seem to be criticizing those who recognize Trump for what he is, which is basically supporting him.

Believing the big lie would confirm it.

I’m criticizing people that can’t except that their own party is corrupt as well and can’t help themselves to scream “but what about trump” when someone points out a fault on the left. 
 

 

[homersapien 11,352]

33 minutes ago, wdefromtx said:

I’m criticizing people that can’t except that their own party is corrupt as well and can’t help themselves to scream “but what about trump” when someone points out a fault on the left. 
 

 

Trump is literally trying to destroy our democracy and install himself as an authoritarian ruler - a dictator.  He couldn't be any more clearer or blatant about it.  He and his MAGA followers have taken over the GOP.  Refusing to accept the legitimate outcome of a democratic election is a direct attack on our democracy. 

There is no such equivalent person - or anti-democratic ideology - in the Democratic party.  

So your "but what about the Democrats" rings hollow.  Ridiculously so.

 

 

[wdefromtx 3,159]

9 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Trump is literally trying to destroy our democracy and install himself as an authoritarian ruler - a dictator.  He couldn't be any more clearer or blatant about it.  He and his MAGA followers have taken over the GOP.  Refusing to accept the legitimate outcome of a democratic election is a direct attack on our democracy. 

There is no such equivalent person - or anti-democratic ideology - in the Democratic party.  

So your "but what about the Democrats" rings hollow.  Ridiculously so.

 

 

I’m not focusing on one item…I’m talking about everything. Every single time someone brings up anything bad a democrat does you and others scream “but Trump.” 
 

 

[I_M4_AU 7,762]

10 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Trump is literally trying to destroy our democracy and install himself as an authoritarian ruler - a dictator

How IS he trying to install himself as an authoritarian ruler?  The only way he can be the President is be win an election.  Your obsession is showing.

[aubiefifty 16,695]

5 hours ago, wdefromtx said:

I’m criticizing people that can’t except that their own party is corrupt as well and can’t help themselves to scream “but what about trump” when someone points out a fault on the left. 
 

 

my party did not try and steal the election. i stay on trump because you dummies will vote him in again if given the chance. and for the record i have said they are all corrupt and i have little use for any of them but i guessed you missed that one. again trump and company tried to steal the election. he has and still does have people lying for him claiming he won fair and square. if trump gets in again he will do it again. i pray he goes to prison. oh and over half the repubs believe the election was stolen.

[SaltyTiger 7,761]

5 hours ago, homersapien said:

Trump is literally trying to destroy our democracy and install himself as an authoritarian ruler - a dictator.  He couldn't be any more clearer or blatant about it.  He and his MAGA followers have taken over the GOP.  Refusing to accept the legitimate outcome of a democratic election is a direct attack on our democracy. 

There is no such equivalent person - or anti-democratic ideology - in the Democratic party.  

So your "but what about the Democrats" rings hollow.  Ridiculously so.

 

 

How do you become a dictator without full military support? 
 

Do you think Dollar Tree would be having to charge $1.25 with Dictator Trump.
 

 

[TexasTiger 12,800]

1 hour ago, SaltyTiger said:

How do you become a dictator without full military support? 
 

Do you think Dollar Tree would be having to charge $1.25 with Dictator Trump.
 

 

Do you seriously think Trump would somehow buck global phenomena of inflation right now? 

[homersapien 11,352]

 

16 hours ago, wdefromtx said:

I’m not focusing on one item…I’m talking about everything. Every single time someone brings up anything bad a democrat does you and others scream “but Trump.”

 Trump refused to accept the outcome of the last election and convinced a majority of Republicans he was justified in doing so.

Such behavior deserves "focusing" on that "one item" IMO.  It's unprecedented and a direct affront to our democracy. 

 

[aubiefifty 16,695]

2 hours ago, homersapien said:

 

 Trump refused to accept the outcome of the last election and convinced a majority of Republicans he was justified in doing so.

Such behavior deserves "focusing" on that "one item" IMO.  It's unprecedented and a direct affront to our democracy. 

 

you will never change the rights minds because they do not care if trump is a crook. how many on the right that love trump have admitted he tried to steal the election and called him out on it? HOW MANY? i mean they say .............  he is not a crook. he is not a racist. he is a fine christian. he is not  a thief. he has robbed charities. twenty something rape or assault charges but of course they are all lying because he would never harm a woman he just talks about grabbing that cooter because it is his right.. he is one of the biggest liars in politics. so all these guys are now crying about joe but trump pretty much forced us to have a joe.

[homersapien 11,352]

19 hours ago, I_M4_AU said:

How IS he trying to install himself as an authoritarian ruler?  The only way he can be the President is be win an election.  Your obsession is showing.

Well, it's not like he's trying to do it on his own. 

He has the Republican party signed on to perpetuate their minority power by restricting votes - and even more alarmingly - taking control of the official election process by replacing independent election administrators with partisan hacks.

(And of course Jan. 6 provides ample evidence of their intent to use such unconstitutional power.)

Republican Lawmakers Seek New Powers Over Elections

https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2022/01/26/republican-lawmakers-seek-new-powers-over-elections

 

10 new state laws shift power over elections to partisan entities

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dozen-state-laws-shift-power-elections-partisan-entities/story?id=79408455

 

Report shows the extent of Republican efforts to sabotage democracy

Research identifies at least 262 bills were introduced in 41 states this year with the intent to hijack the election process

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/23/voter-suppression-election-interference-republicans

 

And lest we forget the  authoritarian behavior already demonstrated by Trump in his first term:

What are the 15 signs of authoritarianism? We’ve seen them

WASHINGTON — You probably are asking yourself, about now, “What are 15 signs my country is sliding into authoritarianism?”

1. The president refuses to commit to abiding by how Americans vote in the November election until he sees what happens. Check. Donald Trump in a Fox News interview would not say he will be bound by voters’ wishes.

2. Soldiers in unmarked uniforms and no identifying insignia swoop in as the president’s personal militia to arrest peacefully protesting pedestrians in the middle of the night, throw them into unmarked vans and streak away. Check. (Happening in Portland, Oregon, and Trump promises it will happen in other cities. Trump is of German descent but apparently never heard about the feared secret police and the Gestapo.)

3. People are denied the right to vote until they pay all costs any courts say they owe, whether or not they are allowed to dispute them. Check. Happening in Florida.

4. Data about a pandemic are hidden from the public so that the president can control who sees such information as the number of available hospital beds. Check. Trump ordered that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention no longer gets the data, hence the public can’t see it.

5. The president is recognized around the world as someone who does not keep his word, acts capriciously and does not tell the truth. Check. Leaders of other democracies will no longer deal with Trump. Multiple organizations have clocked Trump at telling more than 20,000 lies or misstatements in 3 { years.

6. The president courts dictators known for violating human rights. Check. Trump openly admires Russia’s Vladimir Putin, North Korea’sKim Jong Un, Brazil’s Jair Bolsonaro, Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan and others.

7. The president seeks to divert spending on public health in favor of public monuments, such as a new FBI building. Check. Trump is fighting the most conservative Republicans as he tries to cut funding for fighting COVID-19.

8. Children are separated from parents and imprisoned without adequate medical attention or basic compassion. Check. Thousands may never see their parents again, and hundreds still languish in COVID-19-infested camps.

9. Borders are sealed, and people are not permitted in or out. Check. Even before COVID-19 struck, Trump enacted bans on people coming and going, including scientists considered vital to American research.

10. Racism and sexism are openly encouraged and fostered by the leader. Check. Trump is stressing division and racial anger as he campaigns for reelection.

11. The public display of evil symbols is enthusiastically endorsed. Check. Trump says Confederate battle flags, which were carried by traitors to the U.S., should fly when supported by white supremacists because it’s free speech, although he says protesters do not have the same right to protest racism. Would he say the same about Nazi swastikas over a public building in the U.S.?

12. Enemies are punished and friends are rewarded. Check. Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen is in jail not just for doing Trump’s bidding but for telling Congress and law enforcement about it. Roger Stone was convicted of felony offenses by a jury and is free because he lied to Congress and the FBI to benefit Trump.

13. Millions of people are declared non-persons. Check. Trump has ordered that more than 11 million undocumented people not be counted when congressional district lines are redrawn even if they have been in the U.S. for decades. This hurts cities or states with large immigrant populations because they won’t be federally compensated fairly and such districts will get less voting representation.

14. Science is routinely denied. Check. A thousand people die every day because the lessons of science and history were ignored and months passed with no national planned response to the novel coronavirus even as Trump demanded schools be opened this fall or lose federal funding.

15. The power of the presidency is used for personal gain. Check. Foreign diplomats curry favor by enriching Trump’s hotels and golf courses. Large campaign donations are given and rewarded by White House endorsement of commercial products. Trump tried to get the British Open held at his golf resort in Scotland and then fired the nonpartisan inspector general who wrote a report about it and had the report marked classified.

But you be the judge. In November.

https://www.timesleader.com/opinion/op-ed/793038/their-view-what-are-the-15-signs-of-authoritarianism-weve-seen-them

 

Edited April 21, 2022 by homersapien

[SaltyTiger 7,761]

12 hours ago, TexasTiger said:

Do you seriously think Trump would somehow buck global phenomena of inflation right now? 

Do you think Trump can install himself as “dictator”?

[wdefromtx 3,159]

Lots of opinion garbage! lol 

[homersapien 11,352]

40 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said:

Do you think Trump can install himself as “dictator”?

Well, it's not like he hasn't tried. 

Edited April 21, 2022 by homersapien

[I_M4_AU 7,762]

53 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Well, it's not like he's trying to do it on his own. 

He has the Republican party signed on to perpetuate their minority power by restricting votes - and even more alarmingly - taking control of the official election process by replacing independent election administrators with partisan hacks.

(And of course Jan. 6 provides ample evidence of their intent to use such unconstitutional power.)

Republican Lawmakers Seek New Powers Over Elections

https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2022/01/26/republican-lawmakers-seek-new-powers-over-elections

 

10 new state laws shift power over elections to partisan entities

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dozen-state-laws-shift-power-elections-partisan-entities/story?id=79408455

 

Report shows the extent of Republican efforts to sabotage democracy

Research identifies at least 262 bills were introduced in 41 states this year with the intent to hijack the election process

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/23/voter-suppression-election-interference-republicans

 

And lest we forget the  authoritarian behavior already demonstrated by Trump in his first term:

What are the 15 signs of authoritarianism? We’ve seen them

WASHINGTON — You probably are asking yourself, about now, “What are 15 signs my country is sliding into authoritarianism?”

1. The president refuses to commit to abiding by how Americans vote in the November election until he sees what happens. Check. Donald Trump in a Fox News interview would not say he will be bound by voters’ wishes.

2. Soldiers in unmarked uniforms and no identifying insignia swoop in as the president’s personal militia to arrest peacefully protesting pedestrians in the middle of the night, throw them into unmarked vans and streak away. Check. (Happening in Portland, Oregon, and Trump promises it will happen in other cities. Trump is of German descent but apparently never heard about the feared secret police and the Gestapo.)

3. People are denied the right to vote until they pay all costs any courts say they owe, whether or not they are allowed to dispute them. Check. Happening in Florida.

4. Data about a pandemic are hidden from the public so that the president can control who sees such information as the number of available hospital beds. Check. Trump ordered that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention no longer gets the data, hence the public can’t see it.

5. The president is recognized around the world as someone who does not keep his word, acts capriciously and does not tell the truth. Check. Leaders of other democracies will no longer deal with Trump. Multiple organizations have clocked Trump at telling more than 20,000 lies or misstatements in 3 { years.

6. The president courts dictators known for violating human rights. Check. Trump openly admires Russia’s Vladimir Putin, North Korea’sKim Jong Un, Brazil’s Jair Bolsonaro, Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan and others.

7. The president seeks to divert spending on public health in favor of public monuments, such as a new FBI building. Check. Trump is fighting the most conservative Republicans as he tries to cut funding for fighting COVID-19.

8. Children are separated from parents and imprisoned without adequate medical attention or basic compassion. Check. Thousands may never see their parents again, and hundreds still languish in COVID-19-infested camps.

9. Borders are sealed, and people are not permitted in or out. Check. Even before COVID-19 struck, Trump enacted bans on people coming and going, including scientists considered vital to American research.

10. Racism and sexism are openly encouraged and fostered by the leader. Check. Trump is stressing division and racial anger as he campaigns for reelection.

11. The public display of evil symbols is enthusiastically endorsed. Check. Trump says Confederate battle flags, which were carried by traitors to the U.S., should fly when supported by white supremacists because it’s free speech, although he says protesters do not have the same right to protest racism. Would he say the same about Nazi swastikas over a public building in the U.S.?

12. Enemies are punished and friends are rewarded. Check. Trump’s lawyer Michael Cohen is in jail not just for doing Trump’s bidding but for telling Congress and law enforcement about it. Roger Stone was convicted of felony offenses by a jury and is free because he lied to Congress and the FBI to benefit Trump.

13. Millions of people are declared non-persons. Check. Trump has ordered that more than 11 million undocumented people not be counted when congressional district lines are redrawn even if they have been in the U.S. for decades. This hurts cities or states with large immigrant populations because they won’t be federally compensated fairly and such districts will get less voting representation.

14. Science is routinely denied. Check. A thousand people die every day because the lessons of science and history were ignored and months passed with no national planned response to the novel coronavirus even as Trump demanded schools be opened this fall or lose federal funding.

15. The power of the presidency is used for personal gain. Check. Foreign diplomats curry favor by enriching Trump’s hotels and golf courses. Large campaign donations are given and rewarded by White House endorsement of commercial products. Trump tried to get the British Open held at his golf resort in Scotland and then fired the nonpartisan inspector general who wrote a report about it and had the report marked classified.

But you be the judge. In November.

https://www.timesleader.com/opinion/op-ed/793038/their-view-what-are-the-15-signs-of-authoritarianism-weve-seen-them

 

All this is what both parties do in that they try to manipulate the rules to enhance their side of the aisle.  The fact that Trump is not in public office should tell you he can not install himself as the *dictator*.

As to your 15 signs of authoritarianism, most of those can be said about the current administration.

We’ve got 2 and a half years before the possibility of Trump winning the primary and running for *dictatorship*.  You know the best way to prevent this is for the Democrats to be more centrist and not go baths!t crazy.

[TexasTiger 12,800]

45 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said:

Do you think Trump can install himself as “dictator”?

He clearly wanted to and many Republicans would facilitate it. Now answer my question— if Trump were President do you think we wouldn’t have inflation?

[wdefromtx 3,159]

7 minutes ago, TexasTiger said:

He clearly wanted to and many Republicans would facilitate it. Now answer my question— if Trump were President do you think we wouldn’t have inflation?

I don’t think it would be as bad, but who knows.Considering we are so dependent on China for products a supply chain issue caused from their lockdowns directly drives inflation up. 
 

Regarding the additional inflation as a result of Ukraine…I see two scenarios. Trump might have been able to talk Putin out of the invasion….or…..we would have nuked the crap out of each other by now. Both would have dramatically changed the trajectory of inflation. lol 

[homersapien 11,352]

3 hours ago, I_M4_AU said:

All this is what both parties do in that they try to manipulate the rules to enhance their side of the aisle.  The fact that Trump is not in public office should tell you he can not install himself as the *dictator*.

As to your 15 signs of authoritarianism, most of those can be said about the current administration.

We’ve got 2 and a half years before the possibility of Trump winning the primary and running for *dictatorship*.  You know the best way to prevent this is for the Democrats to be more centrist and not go baths!t crazy.

Show me one example of Democrats passing legislation to eliminate independent election administrators and replace them with Democrats.

And please be more specific on which signs of authoritarianism can be equally applied to a Democratic POTUS.

(And as a Trump supporter, I wouldn't be applying terms like batsh!t crazy to Democrats):

Michigan Democrat blasts GOP ‘groomer’ slurs and school censorship efforts in powerful speech: ‘We will not let hate win’

https://news.yahoo.com/michigan-democrat-blasts-gop-groomer 000835915.html

 

 

Edited April 21, 2022 by homersapien