19 Children and 2 Adults Killed In Texas Elementary School Mass Shooting.

[GoAU 1,600]

3 hours ago, autigeremt said:

Remember all those guns ran by the FBI into Mexico that ended up on our streets back in the day? lol 

How about all of the hardware we gifted to the Taliban in Afghanistan?

[CoffeeTiger 5,099]

[autigeremt 6,598]

5 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said:

It’s also Canada….geography, population and everything else aside. It’s not the guns, just like it’s not the car, ladder or water. 

[CoffeeTiger 5,099]

13 hours ago, autigeremt said:

It’s also Canada….geography, population and everything else aside. It’s not the guns, just like it’s not the car, ladder or water. 

 

Yet every other society that knows it needs to regulate gun ownership also happens to have vastly less shootings and gun deaths than America. Every. Single. one. 

 

Human nature is such that if you give them a lot of guns without oversight or regulations they will start to shoot and kill each other unjustly. That's reality everywhere. America is the only modern state where a significant portion of the population believes that this reality doesn't exist...it's also the only modern state with significant mass shooting problems. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, CoffeeTiger said:

 

Yet every other society that knows it needs to regulate gun ownership also happens to have vastly less shootings and gun deaths than America. Every. Single. one. 

 

Human nature is such that if you give them a lot of guns without oversight or regulations they will start to shoot and kill each other unjustly. That's reality everywhere. America is the only modern state where a significant portion of the population believes that this reality doesn't exist...it's also the only modern state with significant mass shooting problems. 

 

 

I tell you what! Make the government execute the laws on the books with vigor first and then I will get more serious about infringing on the rights of American citizens. 

[icanthearyou 4,462]

1 hour ago, autigeremt said:

I tell you what! Make the government execute the laws on the books with vigor first and then I will get more serious about infringing on the rights of American citizens. 

Exactly!  The only gun regulations we can have are regulations that are ineffectual. 

The rights of "American citizens"?  Is  that usage limited to the membership of the NRA?  Are you aware of current polling on reforming gun laws?  Perhaps you are inadvertently wishing to impose tyranny?

All "rights" have to be measured in terms of how they affect the health, well being, rights of others.  To believe otherwise is, hypocrisy revealed.

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42 minutes ago, icanthearyou said:

Exactly!  The only gun regulations we can have are regulations that are ineffectual. 

The rights of "American citizens"?  Is  that usage limited to the membership of the NRA?  Are you aware of current polling on reforming gun laws?  Perhaps you are inadvertently wishing to impose tyranny?

All "rights" have to be measured in terms of how they affect the health, well being, rights of others.  To believe otherwise is, hypocrisy revealed.

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[CoffeeTiger 5,099]

https://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/outdoor-annual/hunting/migratory-game-bird-regulations/methods#:~:text=A shotgun is the only,holding more than three shells.

A shotgun is the only legal firearm for hunting migratory game birds. Shotguns must not be larger than 10-gauge, must be fired from the shoulder, and must be incapable of holding more than three shells.

[I_M4_AU 7,792]

40 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

https://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/outdoor-annual/hunting/migratory-game-bird-regulations/methods#:~:text=A shotgun is the only,holding more than three shells.

A shotgun is the only legal firearm for hunting migratory game birds. Shotguns must not be larger than 10-gauge, must be fired from the shoulder, and must be incapable of holding more than three shells.

A false equivalency, but I think you know this.

Edited June 9, 2022 by I_M4_AU

[CoffeeTiger 5,099]

3 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

A false equivalency, but I think you now this.

Not really. 

 

All our hunting regulations show that deep down Republicans know that gun control and strict gun and ammo regulations are how you prevent hunters from destroying the populations of game animals. 

 

 

Apparently when it comes to madmen shooting children though, suddenly guns and bullets have nothing to do with it. 

 

[icanthearyou 4,462]

12 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

A false equivalency, but I think you know this.

Exactly!!!  Children can't fly.

[I_M4_AU 7,792]

1 minute ago, CoffeeTiger said:

Not really. 

 

All our hunting regulations show that deep down Republicans know that gun control and strict gun and ammo regulations are how you prevent hunters from destroying the populations of game animals. 

 

 

Apparently when it comes to madmen shooting children though, suddenly guns and bullets have nothing to do with it. 

 

Come on man, it is LEGAL to hunt birds.

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1 minute ago, icanthearyou said:

Exactly!!!  Children can't fly.

Almost.

[icanthearyou 4,462]

3 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

Come on man, it is LEGAL to hunt birds.

So if hunting children were legal,,, we could regulate guns?  Interesting.

There are people going into schools hunting children.  If only it were legal we could do something.

[I_M4_AU 7,792]

23 minutes ago, icanthearyou said:

So if hunting children were legal,,, we could regulate guns?  Interesting.

There are people going into schools hunting children.  If only it were legal we could do something.

What a POS you are.

[CoffeeTiger 5,099]

1 hour ago, I_M4_AU said:

Come on man, it is LEGAL to hunt birds.

Only in certain seasons…and only with a very limited selection of guns…and only with a limited amount of ammunition…and only with guns that are regulated on their firing rate and capacity…and only with bag limits…and only with valid permits…and only on property you have permission to be on…and only certain types of birds. 
 

 

gee….that’s a lot of very detailed laws and restrictions placed on hunters. 
 

it’d be a shame if school shooters faced anywhere near the same amount of regulation and restrictions on their gun purchases. 
 

Gun and ammo restrictions on hunting? Sure, that’s only common sense. 
 

gun and ammo restrictions to stop mass school killings? No way! That’s a violation of our American feeedumbs.

 

Edited June 9, 2022 by CoffeeTiger

[I_M4_AU 7,792]

2 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

Only in certain seasons…and only with a very limited selection of guns…and only with a limited amount of ammunition…and only with guns that are regulated on their firing rate and capacity…and only with bag limits…and only with valid permits…and only on property you have permission to be on…and only certain types of birds. 
 

 

gee….that’s a lot of very detailed laws and restrictions placed on hunters. 
 

it’d be a shame if school shooters faced anywhere near the same amount of regulation and restrictions on their gun purchases. 
 

Gun and ammo restrictions on hunting? Sure, that’s only common sense. 
 

gun and ammo restrictions to stop mass school killings? No way! That’s a violation of our American feeedumbs.

a few thousand child gun deaths a year is well worth it. 

You can not be this stupid.  If school shooters confessed their intentions when they try to purchase the gun, they wouldn’t be allowed to purchase the gun and the local police would be notified.  Try this Coffee, go to you nearest gun store and tell them you want to buy an AR-15 to shoot up a school and see if they will sell you the gun?

People lie to the authorities all the time, hell, the President’s son lied on his hand gun permit when he bought one of his guns.

Oh, and duck hunters follow the rules because they are law abiding citizens.  School shooters, not so much.

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2 hours ago, icanthearyou said:

So if hunting children were legal,,, we could regulate guns?  Interesting.

There are people going into schools hunting children.  If only it were legal we could do something.

Republicans are clear that common sense gun laws that work for the rest of the world are a ‘no-can-do’ in the US so we’re going to have to come up with some unique solutions to the problem. 
 

 

 

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3 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said:

Republicans are clear that common sense gun laws that work for the rest of the world are a ‘no-can-do’ in the US so we’re going to have to come up with some unique solutions to the problem. 
 

 

 

Yep.  The answer is,,, there is no answer.  However, common sense gun laws could slow it down, minimize every nutjobs proficiency at killing. 

We just haven't had enough yet.  People will figure it out.  Eventually, reason will dictate that you cannot return to 1871, embolden everyone in a stressed society with a gun, and possibly reason that there will not be extreme violence.  We are probably 6-8 years from change.  We are a decade from understanding that more police and more prisons are neither a solution nor even cost effective manner to deal with the problem.

The Republicans are in no way serious about any gun control measures at this time.  At the state level, they are pushing for "constitutional carry" laws.  Their answer is still more guns.

 

Edited June 10, 2022 by icanthearyou

[autigeremt 6,598]

5 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said:

Not really. 

 

All our hunting regulations show that deep down Republicans know that gun control and strict gun and ammo regulations are how you prevent hunters from destroying the populations of game animals. 

 

 

Apparently when it comes to madmen shooting children though, suddenly guns and bullets have nothing to do with it. 

 

It’s never the fault of the individual who pulls the trigger is it? 

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7 minutes ago, icanthearyou said:

Yep.  The answer is,,, there is no answer.  However, common sense gun laws could slow it down, minimize every nutjobs proficiency at killing. 

We just haven't had enough yet.  People will figure it out.  Eventually, reason will dictate that you cannot return to 1871, embolden everyone in a stressed society with a gun, and possibly reason that there will not be extreme violence.  We are probably 6-8 years from change.  We are a decade from understanding that more police and more prisons are neither a solution nor even cost effective manner to deal with the problem.

Conservatism gave up common sense in favor of absolute loyalty to the ideology.  There are no Republicans anymore, it is the party of Goldwater conservatives.  "Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice".  There you go.  Extremism! 

Progressivism follows suit. Own it! 

[icanthearyou 4,462]

5 minutes ago, autigeremt said:

Progressivism follows suit. Own it! 

Everything has an extreme.  The difference is the distribution curve.

[icanthearyou 4,462]

8 minutes ago, autigeremt said:

It’s never the fault of the individual who pulls the trigger is it? 

Are you content for this kind of statement to represent you level of thinking?

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“Common sense gun laws” is such a BS facade - people use this term to mask and hide true intentions.  At least have the courage to lay out exactly what your intentions are.  
 

Most of the polls people refer to are garbage too as the media tries to confuse the issue by understating all of the laws we currently have - many people actually believe we don’t already have background checks.  
 

We currently have hundreds of federal laws and many more at the state levels.  The acts below are the major ones already in place.  As mentioned below, we already have TONS of laws in place - how about enforcing those?  For example, “Res Flag” laws - there are very few things that they provide that can’t be done under already existing laws, they just need to be enforced.  The things the current laws can’t do are mostly unconstitutional and likely shouldn’t be done a way.  

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6 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said:

https://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/outdoor-annual/hunting/migratory-game-bird-regulations/methods#:~:text=A shotgun is the only,holding more than three shells.

A shotgun is the only legal firearm for hunting migratory game birds. Shotguns must not be larger than 10-gauge, must be fired from the shoulder, and must be incapable of holding more than three shells.

Another disingenuous post by a fascist.  It’s almost too stupid to even acknowledge.