End of June Update

[Zeek 16,612]

Auburn Commits:

• 4* IOL Bradyn Joiner - solid
• 4* S Terrance Love - solid

Auburn Leads:

• 4* RB Jeremiah Cobb - 90% confidence
• 4* WR Karmello English - 90% confidence
• 4* WR Khai Prean - 75% confidence
• 4* TE Jelani Thurman - 55% confidence
• 4* OT/IOL DJ Chester - 65% confidence
• 3* IOL RyQueze McElderry (UGA commit) - 55% confidence
• 4* DL/Edge Keldric Faulk - 85% confidence
• 3* DL Joshua Horton - 70%
• 4* LB Lewis Carter - 65%
• NR Jacorious Hart - 70%

Auburn Has a Legitimate Chance

• 4* QB Brock Glenn - competing with Ohio State, FSU, and Georgia
• 4* RB Roderick Robinson II - though he's committed to UCLA we're right there
• 3* WR Lamar Seymore - battling with Pitt and UCF (depends how bad we want him)
• 4* OT Bo Hughley - between us and UGA where he is committed
• 4* Stanton Ramil - Auburn vs Tennessee with UT having the edge right now
• 3* Connor Lew - we might have a slight lead but UGA and Clemson are pushing hard
• 5* DL James Smith - believe it or not we're in consideration. Likely behind but not out.
• 4* DL Daevin Hobbs - hometown UNC leads but we're closing the gap
• 4* DL Rueben Bain - hometown Miami is the favorite but he keeps visiting AU
• 4* DL Darron Reed - if we win games we have a chance
• 4* DL Wilky Denaud - I think we might lead but FSU and Tenn got in earlier
• 5* ER Jaquavious Russaw - believe it or not we have a chance especially if we win games
• 4* ER Gabriel Harris (UGA commit) - really likes the early playing time idea
• 4* Jaiden Ausberry - staff just has to do enough it's obvious they won't be fired
• 4* CJ Allen (UGA commit) - IF the mutts keep pursuing their preferred linebackers and win Allen might get processed. We easily get him in that scenario.
• 4* Stanquan Clark - really likes Auburn but is a south Florida guy
• 3* Phil Picciotti - Auburn is in his top group but my money is on Penn State or Oklahoma who have pushed harder
• NR LB Justin Jefferson (JuCo) - hotly pursued by most but I like where Auburn sits.
• 4* CB Ja'Keem Jackson - I think it's 50/50 right now between AU and Tenn

Auburn is still trying and/or this player might be a fallback target

• 4* WR Daquayvious Sorey - I think we're behind here but should we miss somewhere we might turn up the heat
• 3* WR Ja'Kobi Lane - he is a whopping 6'5" but that Arizona distance is tough
• NR Malik Benson (JuCo) - beginning phases of the recruitment
• 4* TE Jackson Bowers - I'm not sure if he'd listen but should we miss on Thurman this would be my guess for next man up
• 4* OT Zechariah Owens - we're trying he's just not biting
• 3* OT Vysen Lang - fallback plan
• 4* DL Kelby Collins - I don't know what in the world got in his ear but we don't seem to have this connection. Still trying.
• NR DL Elijah Davis (JuCo) - fallback option
• 4* ER Tausili Akana - we're trying but Utah is a long ways away
• 4* Rico Walker - North Carolina kids want to stay in state but we're trying
• 3* ER Ashley Williams - fallback option
• 4* LB Troy Bowles - no chance but we're trying
• 3* LB Eric Muse - fallback option
• NR LB Marcellius Pulliam - fallback option
• 4* CB Ethan Nation - not clear how hard we're pushing but there is a connection
• 3* CB Dale Miller - fallback option
• 3* S Bryce Thornton - fallback option

Please move on they're not happening and/or we're not pursuing

• 4* WR William Fowles - I have never seen reporters so instantly say "not happening" after a recruit visited. Not sure what didn't click for him.
• 5* DL Peter Woods - just another Thompson HS player unserious about Auburn.
• 4* DL Hunter Osborne - Auburn doesn't really value him that high. He is way low on our board for whatever reason. When we're a hat on his table it'll be for show don't feel down when he goes somewhere else.
• 4* DL Jamaal Jarrett - we were serious contenders until a visit to Georgia where he canceled his visit here and his Big Cat Weekend visit. It's unfortunate but we lost this one (though we started very far behind).
• 4* DL Anthony James (Washington commit) - I just want to clarify that the kid showed up to campus very much lighter than he was listed. He is about to see a steep drop off in his ratings.
• 4* DL Sydir Mitchell - I saw some people complaining when it became obvious he was a Georgia lock. Thing is, we have never had any reason to ever believe he was coming to Auburn other than he was friends with Jarrett.
• 5* ER Chandavian Bradley - I have no idea why his name keeps getting mentioned. We have not had much contact or interactions up to this point. He isn't coming here and frankly I am not sure how hard we have tried with him.
• 5* CB Tony Mitchell - please God don't hold even an ounce of hope here. He is the biggest troll in this recruiting class. He literally told a UF reporter to put in a crystal ball for the Gators just to troll them. He isn't coming here. I don't care how many "Top ___" we make or don't make for him. I hate that T-Rob is coaching for the Tide.
• 5* CB Jahlil Hurley - he used Auburn to make Alabama jealous and now that he got them to come crying and kissing his behind he's all turd again. Yet again I'll say that I despise T-Rob coaching for the Tide.
• 4* S Avery Stuart - he has us in his top group and will announce his decision pretty soon. It's all for show; we have not pursued Stuart and no one expects him to sign with us. Don't buy the headline when it says "Stuart signs with Kentucky over Auburn, FSU, Arkansas, and others". 

We're in a rough spot. I have a hard time figuring out how we reach 25 in this class with the names we have now. December is a long ways away though.

[NWALA Tiger 3,534]

12 minutes ago, Zeek said:

Auburn Commits:

• 4* IOL Bradyn Joiner - solid
• 4* S Terrance Love - solid

Auburn Leads:

• 4* RB Jeremiah Cobb - 90% confidence
• 4* WR Karmello English - 90% confidence
• 4* WR Khai Prean - 75% confidence
• 4* TE Jelani Thurman - 55% confidence
• 4* OT/IOL DJ Chester - 65% confidence
• 3* IOL RyQueze McElderry (UGA commit) - 55% confidence
• 4* DL/Edge Keldric Faulk - 85% confidence
• 3* DL Joshua Horton - 70%
• 4* LB Lewis Carter - 65%
• NR Jacorious Hart - 70%

Auburn Has a Legitimate Chance

• 4* QB Brock Glenn - competing with Ohio State, FSU, and Georgia
• 4* RB Roderick Robinson II - though he's committed to UCLA we're right there
• 3* WR Lamar Seymore - battling with Pitt and UCF (depends how bad we want him)
• 4* OT Bo Hughley - between us and UGA where he is committed
• 4* Stanton Ramil - Auburn vs Tennessee with UT having the edge right now
• 3* Connor Lew - we might have a slight lead but UGA and Clemson are pushing hard
• 5* DL James Smith - believe it or not we're in consideration. Likely behind but not out.
• 4* DL Daevin Hobbs - hometown UNC leads but we're closing the gap
• 4* DL Rueben Bain - hometown Miami is the favorite but he keeps visiting AU
• 4* DL Darron Reed - if we win games we have a chance
• 4* DL Wilky Denaud - I think we might lead but FSU and Tenn got in earlier
• 5* ER Jaquavious Russaw - believe it or not we have a chance especially if we win games
• 4* ER Gabriel Harris (UGA commit) - really likes the early playing time idea
• 4* Jaiden Ausberry - staff just has to do enough it's obvious they won't be fired
• 4* CJ Allen (UGA commit) - IF the mutts keep pursuing their preferred linebackers and win Allen might get processed. We easily get him in that scenario.
• 4* Stanquan Clark - really likes Auburn but is a south Florida guy
• 3* Phil Picciotti - Auburn is in his top group but my money is on Penn State or Oklahoma who have pushed harder
• NR LB Justin Jefferson (JuCo) - hotly pursued by most but I like where Auburn sits.
• 4* CB Ja'Keem Jackson - I think it's 50/50 right now between AU and Tenn

Auburn is still trying and/or this player might be a fallback target

• 4* WR Daquayvious Sorey - I think we're behind here but should we miss somewhere we might turn up the heat
• 3* WR Ja'Kobi Lane - he is a whopping 6'5" but that Arizona distance is tough
• NR Malik Benson (JuCo) - beginning phases of the recruitment
• 4* TE Jackson Bowers - I'm not sure if he'd listen but should we miss on Thurman this would be my guess for next man up
• 4* OT Zechariah Owens - we're trying he's just not biting
• 3* OT Vysen Lang - fallback plan
• 4* DL Kelby Collins - I don't know what in the world got in his ear but we don't seem to have this connection. Still trying.
• NR DL Elijah Davis (JuCo) - fallback option
• 4* ER Tausili Akana - we're trying but Utah is a long ways away
• 4* Rico Walker - North Carolina kids want to stay in state but we're trying
• 3* ER Ashley Williams - fallback option
• 4* LB Troy Bowles - no chance but we're trying
• 3* LB Eric Muse - fallback option
• NR LB Marcellius Pulliam - fallback option
• 4* CB Ethan Nation - not clear how hard we're pushing but there is a connection
• 3* CB Dale Miller - fallback option
• 3* S Bryce Thornton - fallback option

Please move on they're not happening and/or we're not pursuing

• 4* WR William Fowles - I have never seen reporters so instantly say "not happening" after a recruit visited. Not sure what didn't click for him.
• 5* DL Peter Woods - just another Thompson HS player unserious about Auburn.
• 4* DL Hunter Osborne - Auburn doesn't really value him that high. He is way low on our board for whatever reason. When we're a hat on his table it'll be for show don't feel down when he goes somewhere else.
• 4* DL Jamaal Jarrett - we were serious contenders until a visit to Georgia where he canceled his visit here and his Big Cat Weekend visit. It's unfortunate but we lost this one (though we started very far behind).
• 4* DL Anthony James (Washington commit) - I just want to clarify that the kid showed up to campus very much lighter than he was listed. He is about to see a steep drop off in his ratings.
• 4* DL Sydir Mitchell - I saw some people complaining when it became obvious he was a Georgia lock. Thing is, we have never had any reason to ever believe he was coming to Auburn other than he was friends with Jarrett.
• 5* ER Chandavian Bradley - I have no idea why his name keeps getting mentioned. We have not had much contact or interactions up to this point. He isn't coming here and frankly I am not sure how hard we have tried with him.
• 5* CB Tony Mitchell - please God don't hold even an ounce of hope here. He is the biggest troll in this recruiting class. He literally told a UF reporter to put in a crystal ball for the Gators just to troll them. He isn't coming here. I don't care how many "Top ___" we make or don't make for him. I hate that T-Rob is coaching for the Tide.
• 5* CB Jahlil Hurley - he used Auburn to make Alabama jealous and now that he got them to come crying and kissing his behind he's all turd again. Yet again I'll say that I despise T-Rob coaching for the Tide.
• 4* S Avery Stuart - he has us in his top group and will announce his decision pretty soon. It's all for show; we have not pursued Stuart and no one expects him to sign with us. Don't buy the headline when it says "Stuart signs with Kentucky over Auburn, FSU, Arkansas, and others". 

We're in a rough spot. I have a hard time figuring out how we reach 25 in this class with the names we have now. December is a long ways away though.

Zeek , any on the not probable list that could move to probable if we have a good year?

Edited June 27, 2022 by NWALA Tiger

[Zeek 16,612]

1 minute ago, NWALA Tiger said:

Zeek , any on the not probable list that could move to probable if we have a good year?

I keep seeing that narrative from people in the know... I gotta say it sounds like a coping tool to me. We see players committing to dumpster fires without waiting to see their year. Harsin isn't the only coach on a warm-to-hot seat.

There are some (Thurman, Russaw, Smith) that become more likely but most of these kids will commit before we get to the end of the season.

Winning cures a lot but Auburn historically hasn't seen too much of a difference. After winning the National Championship and after going to the one in 2013 we really didn't see massive bumps. My fear is we're not playing the NIL game like our opponents and it's going to bite us in the ass.

To answer your question, Akana/Walker/Owens are three I think we could see some traction with were we to win 7+

[Randman5000 4,223]

What about that LB committed to ND? I take it we have up on him.

Also Russaw and James Smith said they are a package deal. 

Edited June 27, 2022 by Randman5000

[AUlurker 178]

That is not encouraging to see.

[Mikey 16,545]

2 hours ago, Zeek said:

We're in a rough spot. I have a hard time figuring out how we reach 25 in this class with the names we have now.

This is a year when the NCAA has waived the annual limit. Anybody can sign as many as they want as long as the roster stays under 85, and AU can't sign the normal number of 25? Don't look now, but we may very well be in some really deep doo-doo.

[Gowebb11 9,305]

7 hours ago, Zeek said:

My fear is we're not playing the NIL game like our opponents and it's going to bite us in the ass.

I agree with this. At the same time, the excuses for AU are on thin ice with me. For instance, we complained for years that we needed a football only facility to compete. Now we’ve invested close to $100 million on one and it suddenly doesn’t matter. We say we need to win, but get virtually no bump when we do. Now it’s the NIL. Our staff needs to do their jobs and close. 

Edited June 27, 2022 by Gowebb11

[Zeek 16,612]

1 hour ago, Gowebb11 said:

I agree with this. At the same time, the excuses for AU are on thin ice with me. For instance, we complained for years that we needed a football only facility to compete. Now we’ve invested close to $100 million on one and it suddenly doesn’t matter. We say we need to win, but get virtually no bump when we do. Now it’s the NIL. Our staff needs to do their jobs and close. 

Agreed at some point we just have to put up or shut up. I have said this previously but sometimes I'm not sure it fans expectations align with the PTB. Our fans want to be what Alabama and Georgia currently are. Those in charge seem mostly fine with 8-4 and occasional big years.

The Football Facility is a step in the right direction but it's at least five years late. It's now just the normal (even if it's better most big programs are at least comparable). 

NIL is now the big thing (and will be for the foreseeable future). We are yet again behind the curve. Not one player on our team has signed an NIL deal that has been big news. That's a problem.

Now we're looking at bidding wars and taking the high ground. Recruits walk in to Auburn and hear about hard work and earning everything. Then they walk into Tennessee and hear how much they can get paid before every touching a practice field.

I hate what they have let NIL become. This was everyone's worst fears come true. It should not be a recruiting tool but it is. Now college is a professional sport with no salary cap, no tampering rules, and a highly disfunctional transfer portal.

College sports are quickly becoming harder and harder for me to be interested in at the moment. Bruce Pearl couldn't even get the kid he wanted because Tennessee was willing to drop $2m on him and we weren't.

[Sizzle 3,909]

11 hours ago, Zeek said:

... I gotta say it sounds like a coping tool to me. We see players committing to dumpster fires without waiting to see their year.

 

 

True it just happened yesterday with Cristobal. He ain’t coached a game at Miami yet and he just got one of Miami’s highest rated QB’s to ever commit to Miami in the 247sports era

Edited June 27, 2022 by Sizzle

[Mikey 16,545]

1 hour ago, Zeek said:

I hate what they have let NIL become. This was everyone's worst fears come true. It should not be a recruiting tool but it is. Now college is a professional sport with no salary cap, no tampering rules, and a highly disfunctional transfer portal.

College sports are quickly becoming harder and harder for me to be interested in at the moment. Bruce Pearl couldn't even get the kid he wanted because Tennessee was willing to drop $2m on him and we weren't.

When this NIL stuff first came out I said I'd give it five years before I lost interest in college sports. Things may change but so far I agree with you. It's becoming harder and harder to be enthusiastic about college sports. Our baseball team was something to get excited about but it's hard to say how long it will be until schools start buying baseball players too.

[Zeek 16,612]

18 minutes ago, Mikey said:

When this NIL stuff first came out I said I'd give it five years before I lost interest in college sports. Things may change but so far I agree with you. It's becoming harder and harder to be enthusiastic about college sports. Our baseball team was something to get excited about but it's hard to say how long it will be until schools start buying baseball players too.

I honestly feel awful being this negative and pessimistic. Have always tried to be positive (especially about recruiting). The Brock Glenn situation is frustrating. We have been on this kid from the jump before anyone valued him highly. Now Ohio State, Georgia, and even LSU are all jumping in late pushing his decision back. 

Used to be kids would tell these late schools to kick rocks. Now they're flashing big $ in front of his face and we're falling to the wayside. 

It used to be the coaches, facilities, campus, and culture that mattered the most. Now it's all about money. We're dumping hundreds of thousands of dollars on kids to put an oval pigskin into a rectangle. Meanwhile I'm busting my ass just to get over 50k as a teacher. 

Again, I wrestled in college, I am so happy these kids can profit off their own image and likeness. I'm just not a fan of literally buying recruits. Bryce Young is a prime example. He got $1m for what? Did he do commercials? Public appearances? Social media promotions?

The only hope is the NCAA grows a pair of balls and figures out some reasonable limitations. That or a few high dollar players don't pan out and the bubble pops. 

[aucanucktiger 1,789]

3 hours ago, Zeek said:

Agreed at some point we just have to put up or shut up. I have said this previously but sometimes I'm not sure it fans expectations align with the PTB. Our fans want to be what Alabama and Georgia currently are. Those in charge seem mostly fine with 8-4 and occasional big years.

The Football Facility is a step in the right direction but it's at least five years late. It's now just the normal (even if it's better most big programs are at least comparable). 

NIL is now the big thing (and will be for the foreseeable future). We are yet again behind the curve. Not one player on our team has signed an NIL deal that has been big news. That's a problem.

Now we're looking at bidding wars and taking the high ground. Recruits walk in to Auburn and hear about hard work and earning everything. Then they walk into Tennessee and hear how much they can get paid before every touching a practice field.

I hate what they have let NIL become. This was everyone's worst fears come true. It should not be a recruiting tool but it is. Now college is a professional sport with no salary cap, no tampering rules, and a highly disfunctional transfer portal.

College sports are quickly becoming harder and harder for me to be interested in at the moment. Bruce Pearl couldn't even get the kid he wanted because Tennessee was willing to drop $2m on him and we weren't.

Inciteful, intelligent and as always, informed post. Thank you. 

[oracle79 3,569]

1 hour ago, Zeek said:

The only hope is the NCAA grows a pair of balls and figures out some reasonable limitations. That or a few high dollar players don't pan out and the bubble pops.

I think your second scenario is the only hope. Once the money men see ROI go negative, they'll be a lot tighter with their money.  If ROI pays off with conference championships and playoff appearances, it'll continue. NCAA is impotent.

[AuburnNTexas 7,127]

4 hours ago, Zeek said:

Agreed at some point we just have to put up or shut up. I have said this previously but sometimes I'm not sure it fans expectations align with the PTB. Our fans want to be what Alabama and Georgia currently are. Those in charge seem mostly fine with 8-4 and occasional big years.

The Football Facility is a step in the right direction but it's at least five years late. It's now just the normal (even if it's better most big programs are at least comparable). 

NIL is now the big thing (and will be for the foreseeable future). We are yet again behind the curve. Not one player on our team has signed an NIL deal that has been big news. That's a problem.

Now we're looking at bidding wars and taking the high ground. Recruits walk in to Auburn and hear about hard work and earning everything. Then they walk into Tennessee and hear how much they can get paid before every touching a practice field.

I hate what they have let NIL become. This was everyone's worst fears come true. It should not be a recruiting tool but it is. Now college is a professional sport with no salary cap, no tampering rules, and a highly disfunctional transfer portal.

College sports are quickly becoming harder and harder for me to be interested in at the moment. Bruce Pearl couldn't even get the kid he wanted because Tennessee was willing to drop $2m on him and we weren't.

Probably the best post I have seen recently. I especially like that not one players at Auburn has signed an NIL deal that is big news. On the same note nobody is talking about Auburn buying a whole class like A&M or Texas buying an O-Line and two top QB's. Yet we hear about Deion Sanders at an HBCU able to get the #1 RB in the country because of NIL deal. 

[W.E.D 11,070]

15 hours ago, Zeek said:

I keep seeing that narrative from people in the know... I gotta say it sounds like a coping tool to me. We see players committing to dumpster fires without waiting to see their year. Harsin isn't the only coach on a warm-to-hot seat.

 

This has been my feeling.  Glad others are starting to say it.  If you can recruit, you can sell kids on a vision.

[JerryAU 1,649]

5 hours ago, Zeek said:

The Football Facility is a step in the right direction but it's at least five years late. It's now just the normal (even if it's better most big programs are at least comparable). 

NIL is now the big thing (and will be for the foreseeable future). We are yet again behind the curve. Not one player on our team has signed an NIL deal that has been big news. That's a problem.

Excellent post Zeek!

Our FOF while top notch is just not a major focal point because every other program has had them for years.  Like you said, those things  are considered normal now and don't really sway a prospect one way or the other anymore.

The best way to market your NIL collective is to make big news & headlines with the deals your current players are getting.  That stuff goes through social media like a wildfire and prospects know what programs take care of their players, they know what to expect once they're on campus.  The fact that Auburn hasn't released the NIL contract with our highest profile elite player (Tank Bigsby) is a missed opportunity IMO. 

I'd hoped our Players NIL would've caught on and given us a publicity boost by now but I haven't seen much from it since it was initially announced.  I believe Auburn may have the only "player directed NIL" out there, shouldn't it be getting a ton of attention? 

 

[W.E.D 11,070]

15 hours ago, Zeek said:

• 4* DL/Edge Keldric Faulk - 85% confidence

Seems lots of mods outside of Auburn's sites are claiming he's gonna decide between FSU/Clemson and we're running 3rd.

[au302 2,669]

2 hours ago, Zeek said:

I honestly feel awful being this negative and pessimistic. Have always tried to be positive (especially about recruiting). The Brock Glenn situation is frustrating. We have been on this kid from the jump before anyone valued him highly. Now Ohio State, Georgia, and even LSU are all jumping in late pushing his decision back. 

Used to be kids would tell these late schools to kick rocks. Now they're flashing big $ in front of his face and we're falling to the wayside. 

It used to be the coaches, facilities, campus, and culture that mattered the most. Now it's all about money. We're dumping hundreds of thousands of dollars on kids to put an oval pigskin into a rectangle. Meanwhile I'm busting my ass just to get over 50k as a teacher. 

Again, I wrestled in college, I am so happy these kids can profit off their own image and likeness. I'm just not a fan of literally buying recruits. Bryce Young is a prime example. He got $1m for what? Did he do commercials? Public appearances? Social media promotions?

The only hope is the NCAA grows a pair of balls and figures out some reasonable limitations. That or a few high dollar players don't pan out and the bubble pops. 

We are one step behind everyone for the past 20 years. FOF was the big deal, and now that we're building it NIL matters way more. In 2040 we'll finally catch up on NIL, but at that point something else will be the fad. Our strategic vision for this century has sucked, besides basketball. We nailed that with the arena timing and hiring BP in the span of a few years, and are now doing the BOF and I'm pretty sure our NIL for bball is good. Now we have Butch who rightfully wants things, comparing our current atmosphere to that of a pac-12 school.

We have a new track coach who publicly told it how it is in his first interview, holding the universities feet to the fire from the jump instead of using it as an excuse later. And we have a football program that needs capital both for NIL and stadium renovations. Money doesn't grow on trees. We are just living with the consequences of kicking the can down the road and poor leadership for 20 years. Fortunately we mostly have good coaches who have mostly made it work in spite of this.

[Zeek 16,612]

6 minutes ago, W.E.D said:

Seems lots of mods outside of Auburn's sites are claiming he's gonna decide between FSU/Clemson and we're running 3rd.

I'm not buying that one bit. Dude has been all Auburn for a minute. It would be rare for Keith and others to miss that hard. 

[au302 2,669]

10 minutes ago, W.E.D said:

Seems lots of mods outside of Auburn's sites are claiming he's gonna decide between FSU/Clemson and we're running 3rd.

If these sites are right, which they very well could be, we aren't getting anyone. Faulk, Glenn, Ramil, and Cobb. UT thinks they get Ramil, and PSU mod says MSU probably now leading for Ramil. Just depressing 

[AUGoo 2,659]

We are soon going have to decide if we are going to be major NIL players or not.

At the moment, it appears we are not wishing to participate and will have to accept what we can get and be happy about it.

I can not make a difference in the NIL world.  Maybe all of us together could pitch in and make some difference.  But, we will never compete with Texas, aTm,  Oklohoma, etc.  I believe Bama will struggle against them.  I can only hope to  end up in a tiered system, like British soccer with relegation and promotion. And rise to the top of our tier.

Sad day.

[Zeek 16,612]

I'm going to puke.

Faulk to Clemson is real apparently.

Glenn officially pushing back his commitment seals he won't be here when the dust settles.

Horton pushing his commitment back is horrendous for us as well (needed some damn momentum) and he's a 3* that frankly should feel lucky to even have an opportunity at a school like Auburn.

[NWALA Tiger 3,534]

4 hours ago, Zeek said:

I honestly feel awful being this negative and pessimistic. Have always tried to be positive (especially about recruiting). The Brock Glenn situation is frustrating. We have been on this kid from the jump before anyone valued him highly. Now Ohio State, Georgia, and even LSU are all jumping in late pushing his decision back. 

Used to be kids would tell these late schools to kick rocks. Now they're flashing big $ in front of his face and we're falling to the wayside. 

It used to be the coaches, facilities, campus, and culture that mattered the most. Now it's all about money. We're dumping hundreds of thousands of dollars on kids to put an oval pigskin into a rectangle. Meanwhile I'm busting my ass just to get over 50k as a teacher. 

Again, I wrestled in college, I am so happy these kids can profit off their own image and likeness. I'm just not a fan of literally buying recruits. Bryce Young is a prime example. He got $1m for what? Did he do commercials? Public appearances? Social media promotions?

The only hope is the NCAA grows a pair of balls and figures out some reasonable limitations. That or a few high dollar players don't pan out and the bubble pops. 

Until there is regulation from Congress, the NCAA is powerless, it will be the HAVES AND THE HAVE NOTS. I agree with the 2nd point, When Mr 5 * takes a NIL deal and bolts after 1 year that will cause the big money folks to take a pause. I'm shocked it didn't happen when Quinn Ewers left Ohio St.

[cole256 17,039]

Lol and we aren't going hard as far as the NIL why? It's funny to me everybody having a problem that recruits are getting money. It's all the same money but now it's divided up different and now people have a problem because the people that actually put in the work is getting paid. 

People should get it right, the end of college football was when suits at different colleges were splitting up billions of dollars and nobody cared

 

[dilligas 581]

4 hours ago, W.E.D said:

Seems lots of mods outside of Auburn's sites are claiming he's gonna decide between FSU/Clemson and we're running 3rd.

I read that J Lee (Auburn Live On3) said it’s Clemson, and J Lee is a sunshine pumping Auburn homer.