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[GunsmithAU 383]

Just now, NWALA Tiger said:

LOL OK

I'll trade our win against ole miss for their record any day of the week. 

[GunsmithAU 383]

Just now, NWALA Tiger said:

LOL OK

But yeah analytics bad, we prefer hard nosed losing seasons ugg

[DAG 33,957]

2 hours ago, oracle79 said:

Good job Mikey. You do not disappoint with your always negative take on anything Auburn/Harsin related (Hilliard is the exception that proves the rule).

Now I need some more reality checking to slow this positive momentum roll. Step up @GunsmithAU, @passthebiscuits, etc.

As I've said and will keep saying, "several" on here already have their minds made up. If we didn't get this guy, they would be saying we missed another. We get this guy and now they are trying to move the goal posts and provide redirection.

 

@passthebiscuits, not talking about you.

Edited July 28, 2022 by DAG

[NWALA Tiger 3,535]

2 hours ago, GunsmithAU said:

But yeah analytics bad, we prefer hard nosed losing seasons ugg

U , Mikey and AU 24 need to start a band and go on tour 

[dilligas 581]

10 hours ago, W.E.D said:

Note to all these ppl claiming they want Lane.  His recruiting is worse than ours

True but he did do well in the portal.

[augolf1716 21,101]

15 minutes ago, NWALA Tiger said:

U , Mikey and AU 24 need to start a band and go on tour 

Now that's funny..................

[toddc 13,194]

48 minutes ago, NWALA Tiger said:

U , Mikey and AU 24 need to start a band and go on tour 

“The Waahnonah Whiners” 

[Hank2020 3,196]

3 hours ago, GunsmithAU said:

Meh I'm fine with analytics. Most coaches use them. Statistics don't lie, but stistics done matter to the individual. It's a balance game. Can't really bitch about a 10 win season as ole miss. 

Statistics do not lie about the past, but are only predictors of future in generalities. You can never predict that the next time will be the result you are looking for. Thats why most coaches in sports use them to stay away from negative statistics rather than in this case aleays going for it on 4th down bc sometimes it costs you so much when the negative happens (as it always does sooner or later).

[GunsmithAU 383]

50 minutes ago, Hank2020 said:

Statistics do not lie about the past, but are only predictors of future in generalities. You can never predict that the next time will be the result you are looking for. Thats why most coaches in sports use them to stay away from negative statistics rather than in this case aleays going for it on 4th down bc sometimes it costs you so much when the negative happens (as it always does sooner or later).

But it can equally be argued that following the pattern will lead to success more often than not. 

[Hank2020 3,196]

4 minutes ago, GunsmithAU said:

But it can equally be argued that following the pattern will lead to success more often than not. 

True but it could mean success against Mercer and failure against Bama. Noone can tell when it will work, just that percentages are with you. It is fine if you could use it eith situational awareness, but if you do that you skew the statistics, so slant them against you.

[Mikey 16,565]

11 hours ago, Hank2020 said:

I do not hold that position. I also do not believe we should include last years portal acquisitions with this years recruiting stats

Well then lets wait until this cycle's results are in. Kiffin brought in more talent than AU did last cycle. Just because AU has climbed past Ole Miss all the way to 13th in the SEC as of now doesn't mean either AU or OM will finish anywhere in particular.

[Mikey 16,565]

11 hours ago, NWALA Tiger said:

It's not sustainable to rely so heavy on the portal

The portal hasn't been around long enough for anyone to make that statement. Nobody knows if relying heavily on the portal is sustainable or not.

[Hank2020 3,196]

6 minutes ago, Mikey said:

Well then lets wait until this cycle's results are in. Kiffin brought in more talent than AU did last cycle. Just because AU has climbed past Ole Miss all the way to 13th in the SEC as of now doesn't mean either AU or OM will finish anywhere in particular.

I agree with that snd stated as much.

[Mikey 16,565]

4 hours ago, NWALA Tiger said:

U , Mikey and AU 24 need to start a band and go on tour 

This band's lengthy title: "A Spirit That Is Unafraid" (to tell the truth.)

[gr82be 14,421]

4 hours ago, NWALA Tiger said:

U , Mikey and AU 24 need to start a band and go on tour 

 

[NWALA Tiger 3,535]

3 hours ago, Mikey said:

The portal hasn't been around long enough for anyone to make that statement. Nobody knows if relying heavily on the portal is sustainable or not.

Compare it to going heavy on the JUCO players which no one really does anymore 

[GunsmithAU 383]

10 hours ago, Hank2020 said:

True but it could mean success against Mercer and failure against Bama. Noone can tell when it will work, just that percentages are with you. It is fine if you could use it eith situational awareness, but if you do that you skew the statistics, so slant them against you.

But the chances of using the stats against mercer are almost 0. This wouldn't be used in a game you dominate, unless in the 1st few drives. 

Yet regardless of the analytics, this discussion started on kiffen as a coach. He took a 4-8 team to 5-5 in an all sec COVID year, then put together the schools 1st 10 win season. No scandals, fans love him, thus far recruiting just fine. Next 2 years really define what kind of HC he will be after his nick Saban coach rehab program, but between Boca and ole miss, he is killing it. 

[GunsmithAU 383]

4 hours ago, NWALA Tiger said:

Compare it to going heavy on the JUCO players which no one really does anymore 

Big difference in juco and transfers. 

Most juco studs were guys who didn't have the grades or had some other issue pop up. 

Were seeing a lot of transfers who were starters or got extensive playing time at top tier competition. 

[NWALA Tiger 3,535]

9 minutes ago, GunsmithAU said:

Big difference in juco and transfers. 

Most juco studs were guys who didn't have the grades or had some other issue pop up. 

Were seeing a lot of transfers who were starters or got extensive playing time at top tier competition. 

Some differences yes, but also some similarities as well.. Another reason not to rely heavily on the portal is the rules are always changing. Hard to sustain a program with ever changing rules. Don't get me wrong, it's possible to get a couple difference makers in portal, but can't sustain a program long term that way. IMO

[GunsmithAU 383]

1 hour ago, NWALA Tiger said:

Some differences yes, but also some similarities as well.. Another reason not to rely heavily on the portal is the rules are always changing. Hard to sustain a program with ever changing rules. Don't get me wrong, it's possible to get a couple difference makers in portal, but can't sustain a program long term that way. IMO

What the portal looks like 2 years from now doesn't matter, as of today, a team can be sustained by the portal. 

The leach plan may be the best way moving forward. 

[NWALA Tiger 3,535]

26 minutes ago, GunsmithAU said:

What the portal looks like 2 years from now doesn't matter, as of today, a team can be sustained by the portal. 

The leach plan may be the best way moving forward. 

Your first sentence is possibly the most contradictory statement in the history of mankind.

[GunsmithAU 383]

19 minutes ago, NWALA Tiger said:

Your first sentence is possibly the most contradictory statement in the history of mankind.

Maybe to those with lacking understanding. 

[NWALA Tiger 3,535]

1 minute ago, GunsmithAU said:

Maybe to those with lacking understanding. 

LOL... K

[maryland tiger 616]

11 hours ago, gr82be said:

 

This is a great song! lol

[Hank2020 3,196]

3 hours ago, GunsmithAU said:

But the chances of using the stats against mercer are almost 0. This wouldn't be used in a game you dominate, unless in the 1st few drives. 

Yet regardless of the analytics, this discussion started on kiffen as a coach. He took a 4-8 team to 5-5 in an all sec COVID year, then put together the schools 1st 10 win season. No scandals, fans love him, thus far recruiting just fine. Next 2 years really define what kind of HC he will be after his nick Saban coach rehab program, but between Boca and ole miss, he is killing it. 

Kiffin is definitely having a good run at Ole Miss. if we ever need another HC, I would be good with him. He has stayed out of problems since leaving Bama. He is a quirky guy but that sometimes helps.