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3 minutes ago, LPTiger said:

I don't in any way condone what Freeze did years back.   I do very much appreciate the second chances I have been given in life and the folks who gave them to me.  I always strive to make them proud.  We should all be willing to give folks second chances.   Raise your hand if you have never failed to chin the bar.

There would appear to be several on here who have never failed 

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14 minutes ago, Son of A Tiger said:

It's hard for me to imagine Cohen hiring Freeze when he blew the whistle on Freeze at Ole Miss when he (Cohen) was the AD at Miss. St. 

Wasn’t Cohen the baseball coach. How did he blow the whistle?

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7 minutes ago, e808 said:

Can u 100% say Freeze wasn’t on anyone list or hearsay. Did anyone report Brian Kelly being an option for LSU. I get it people have a strong stance on Freeze. However Freeze and Harsin not even remotely the same. Freeze knows the task at hand. Was Lane the top choice or was it smoke and mirrors. 

No, but the only time I've ever heard his name attached to any P5 search was when we toyed with the idea of firing Harsin pre-season. I haven't heard his name come up with any current P5 search and that's with his win over Arkansas. 

This is a guy we could have had day one. If we waited this long to declare him the primary candidate, it's either because we've been turned down by all other candidates or we just have fools running our AD. If we do hire this guy, just get ready for the clowning. And unless he can pull miracles in the portal, the clowning is going to last a while. 

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I am OK with Freeze.  We have people in the Athletic Dept to keep him out of trouble (or fire him for cause if he can't stay away from trouble).  Hopefully, Cohen is better with contract wording than Greene.

I like Kiffin, too, but he isn't worth the difference in money (and I know it's not MY money).  Think Freeze for 7 yrs at $8 mil or $56 million versus Kiffin at 10 yrs at $11 mil or $110 million.  I would argue  they are very similar as coaches but Freeze has been punished for baggage in the past.  Freeze is the better buy all things considered.

We aren't hiring a pastor or campus evangelist - that's what FCA does.  We're trying to hire a good football coach,and very few of them are "saints".

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5 minutes ago, NWALA Tiger said:

Well, if we talking NCAA violations.  In the eyes of the NCAA,  Bruce situation was worse. He lied and got 3 yrs show clause.  In Freeze case with the NCAA. He wasn't directly implicated. He was found guilty cause assistants were doing it under his watch. Hence,  his show clause was only 1 yr compared to Bruce's 3. 

As far as calls to escort services, his wife and family have forgiven him.  It happened 5 plus yrs ago, so that's good enuf for me. But it's fair game to critique his past.  IMO, everyone deserves a 2nd chance. Some will agree, some won't.  

I think Freeze wants another chance so badly that he would stay out of trouble.  I don't think he would take this chance lightly at all.

I think he would come here, do well, and stay for the long haul.

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Just now, MaxCohen216 said:

I think Freeze wants another chance so badly that he would stay out of trouble.  I don't think he would take this chance lightly at all.

I think he would come here, do well, and stay for the long haul.

I agree.  I think he would be driven, consumed by the mission of proving his detractors wrong.

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1 hour ago, Win4AU said:

Thamel saying Auburn has been in talks with Freeze is meaningless.  They’ve been in talks with a bunch of people!  Probably told them what they’d be willing to pay too if offered.

As much as Thamel may be a weasel, he’s usually pretty accurate. I wasn’t a fan of Freeze going in, but let’s see what he can do. 

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Currently in Tuscaloosa , we’re already being called a fanbase who walks all over women, try to cover up rapes and the only school desperate enough to give him a chance. My worry is he’s my not a huge name with recruits but recruits mothers will most definitely remember him. Even if we win we’ll be known as cheaters . I have row 9 seat at JHS so I’m in for the long haul no matter what ha but this isn’t starting well

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7 minutes ago, NWALA Tiger said:

There would appear to be several on here who have never failed 

Yeah I’d like see fans’ dirty laundry aired to the entire world lol people are just so short sighted and can be so ignorant. 
 

 

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1 minute ago, WFE12 said:

 

Yep. Get ready for a lot of this. 

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1 minute ago, AUGrad16 said:

Currently in Tuscaloosa , we’re already being called a fanbase who walks all over women, try’s to cover up rapes and the only school desperate enough to give him a chance. My worry is he’s my not a huge name with recruits but recruits mothers will most definitely remember him. Even if we win we’ll be known as cheaters . I have row 9 seat so I’m in for the long haul no matter what ha but this isn’t starting well

wut?

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13 minutes ago, aucom96 said:

No, but the only time I've ever heard his name attached to any P5 search was when we toyed with the idea of firing Harsin pre-season. I haven't heard his name come up with any current P5 search and that's with his win over Arkansas. 

This is a guy we could have had day one. If we waited this long to declare him the primary candidate, it's either because we've been turned down by all other candidates or we just have fools running our AD. If we do hire this guy, just get ready for the clowning. And unless he can pull miracles in the portal, the clowning is going to last a while. 

Again u cant just hire a guy while he is actively coaching a team. To me negative recruiting shouldn’t hold much water depending on the staff. Say he keeps the likes of Caddy, Ike, Etheridge and Reed. Then brings in Luke. Recruiting will be fine. This stuff about negative recruiting don’t seem to stop basketball commits. Auburn got Bari even after the Cooper thing. Winning cures all. 

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56 minutes ago, NWALA Tiger said:

It's all good,  my man.... Been following AU a long time. All the talk about everything at AU being aligned is cool and all, but it always comes down to whoever the " BIG CHIEF" at the time   (think ol Yella Feller) wants. His favorite was Danny Hugh... That's the way its been at AU for 40 yrs.

So your saying our nil is about to take off even more!? I can see Joe and Susan from Leroy being upset and canceling  their monthly sub to on to victory but I agree. The money men are about to just totally dump a ton of money in to NIL.

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4 minutes ago, e808 said:

To me negative recruiting shouldn’t hold much water depending on the staff. Say he keeps the likes of Caddy, Ike,  and Reed. Then brings in Luke.

Why would Luke come here when he retired from a NC program? How well are we recruiting now with Caddy, Ike and Reed?

Now add on non-stop clowning by the national media, a split fanbase, a Sunbelt offense, a really porous 23 roster and a notoriously fickle and divided group of boosters? It take a lot of optimism to see the silver lining in this hire. 

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