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I’m fairly certain King is wrong. I believe the second tiebreaker is winning percentage against 1, against 2, etc. If that’s the case, UTk losses won’t matter. Both have a .000 winning percentage. Same winning percentage against USCe and UK. Bama’s win over UF would give them the tiebreaker.

Pretty sure it was Phillip Yost and Duval. Yost was the KO guy.

The whole NIL/scholarship thing is a little more complicated. It's definitely do-able, but it takes a substantial NIL package to match. So, according to the latest info from the University, tuition/fees for in-state students is $6,268 per semester (including the summer term). Generally football players attend all three semesters. You would need an NIL package of just under $19k + the tax bill on that income. Then, if you're really replicating the value of a scholarship, scholarship players still receive cost of attendance stipends directly from the University. For Auburn, that value is approximately $11,300 per semester (for housing, food, and miscellaneous costs as set by the University). So that's another $22k+ (again, you'd need to add taxes to match the value). The NIL rate for a scholarship player fluctuates by position. For positions with lower demand, I've generally $3-4k per month. So that's $35-50k for the year. In other words, if you're turning a scholarship guy into a PWO but trying to give him dollar-for-dollar equivalence, you'd need to start that guy at around $110k in NIL funds to offset the tax implications. That would be difficult to do on a broad scale.

Love what I'm reading and hearing with some of our targets. I will say, there is almost no chance we sign Deion Smith. He played high school ball at prep school in Jackson. He tried to transfer to Ole Miss from LSU but didn't have the grades. Coming out of JUCO, he's going to Ole Miss. The only way that doesn't happen is if Lane leaves, which seems very unlikely right now. We have a better shot at signing both Cam Coleman and Ryan Williams than we do of signing Smith.

Not to mention we signed a first round QB in the same class.

Yeah, but one of those INTs wasn't the traditional "throwing a pick"... Travis Hunter made one of the best plays you'll see this year. That's truly "forcing" the turnover. Prime has been a major part of his development. H/t to Hunter (first and foremost) and Prime because that guy is crazy good. Absolutely a WR1, but he's much better at CB.

I know, but he's definitely still "out of area" for Auburn. Plenty of guys in other parts of the country have people in Alabama or Mississippi or wherever, but Auburn has signed 3ish guys (?) from California in the last 25 years.

It's helpful to keep turnover in mind, but there are a LOT of unknowns on this list. For example, at Safety, both Simp and Zion redshirted in 2019. Both guys graduate this year, but due to Covid, both guys have the option of returning next year. They have effectively played 21, 22, and this year. TBD on what they will do. At DL, Marcus Harris is in the same boat. Same for Steiner at LB. Same thing for Luke Deal, Tyler Fromm, and Brandon Frazier at TE (meaning, you may not lose anyone from that room). Same for Javy at WR. All that to say, Covid is still playing havoc with roster management. We honestly won't even know what holes we need to fill until after meeting with guys after the season to see what they plan to do. We're going to hit the portal hard again, but I doubt it'll be quite the numbers we saw this year.

I mean, you say this like we're not doing it already. DeAndre Carter plays for Mater Dei in California.

I guess I'm confused why people are so down on OL recruiting under the current group. Even if we ignore the transfers (count me in the camp that, until rules change, transfers are not just a way to rebound but the best way to fill holes year-on-year), Freeze and Thornton have outstripped Gus and Harsin. It's not all that close. Izavion Miller (OT) and Connor Lew (C) are guys capable on contributing immediately and likely multi-year starters Senda (OT/OG) looks like another near lock to contribute soon but not likely as a true freshman Wedin (OT), Joiner (C/OG), and Tyler Johnson (OT) look like exactly the kind of developmental prospects that we failed to take under Gus. That especially true when it comes to Tackles. If we add DeAndre Carter (viewed as another very high-end prospect in the Miller/Lew category) and supplement 2-3 other developmental guys, that's already better than what we've seen in the past. I expect JUCO names will emerge. JUCO is being under-recruited right now, but you won't know those names until later in the fall. If we manage to flip a guy like Echols or Taumua, it's not even close. We missed on Casey Poe. We missed on Daniel Calhoun. We missed on Kalil House, Taumua, and Echols (although we've continued to stay on those guys). We stopped pursuing McRoy. We were never really in it for some others. Even so, if we add four HS/JUCO guys this year (which is what I expect), that will be 10 in two years. Those are unheard of numbers in Gus (10 in his last three years combined) or Harsin (four total in his two year). That's ignoring the quality of the prospects signed, which also tips toward the current regime. If you add the portal, it clearly shows a coaching staff focused on addressing a major need and managing the roster better, which means you cannot just rush out and sign 12 HS guys in two years.

We just suck at Hoover. Nothing new here. I hate (hate hate) losing to Bama, but getting our pitching rested and ready may be for the best at this point. We need Herbie back. We need Vail to get healthy. We're already stretched there, and I'm not sure a long stay in Hoover was going to help. At all. We also need Bobby and Cooper to give us something. 2/20 with 8 Ks creates a big hole in the middle of the lineup. I think the time off will help them a lot more than continuing to scuffle in the SEC tournament. This team fought back into position to host a Regional. That mini-tournament matters a LOT more than this one.

Yeah, Richt had NINE double digit win seasons at UGA in fifteen years. From Years 2 through 7, he failed to win 10+ games only once. Gus is not on that level. He was fading when they decided to pull the plug, but he posted three SEC CG appearances and two SEC titles in his first five years. If there had been a four-team playoff, UGA would've made it in 2002 and again in 2007 (where they might've won the whole thing as a four seed... no one was hotter). He would've made it again in 2012. They were third after losing to Bama.

Going before that. Blake Countess was essential to our defense while here. Jack Driscoll was a good get from UMass. There have been plenty of non-SEC transfers to succeed at Auburn and even more that have succeeded elsewhere.

That would be 32 total. I think that’s light. I expect to be between 35-40 newcomers.

Cool. I’m from Starkville. Too old to know Luke, but my mom was a pediatric NP (retired now). She used to see him.