On 11/11/2022 at 9:00 AM, I_M4_AU said:

Yes you can, but after the first 6 months the chances of a full recovery gets less likely.  Water under the bridge at this point.

The communists are celebrating their ballot stuffing to prop up a guy that can barely form a sentence.  Same state that elected a dead guy.  If you try to get through to them they’ll just mumble “muh democracy”

And just like that, his skirt felt more airy and free

It’s funny to me how one side stuffs ballot boxes while mumbling “muh democracy”, then collaborated with msm to start up the omb chant……….and there are people simple enough to repeat it

Sure, inflation rampant, interest rates at record levels, open border, unnecessary war getting funded, record level crime, lowest approval rating in years……….what more could you clowns want?  

8 hours ago, aubiefifty said:

i got news for you scooter. i earned every single penny of my  retirement, social security, and medicare i get. so you can quit with the slander for one. but that is all you have is cheap shots because your side is garbage. you guys let trump turn you into a cult and i am not kidding. and your side even tells the few good folks you have left in your party to shut up or else. jesus you people tried to take over the country by throwing out a lawful election. and they were going to hang pence and even built a gallows so you could hang right there. you people should be beyond ashamed but none of you are. your people could stand up and say enough of this crap but guess what? crickets. silence is consent. and at the end of the day all you can do is call us moochers and commies. and lets remember how trump gave the rich 3.1 trillion of that sweet sweet government money. and you guys were going to do it again by extending it longer. you would be better served getting your party back on track instead of seeming to be hell bent on our destruction.

Hey - you bragged that your social security is higher than it’s ever been (which has nothing to do with Biden).  So it wasn’t a blind dig.  You vote for benefits, but keep calling people that are footing the bill garbage.
 

The rest of your post reveals the damage that medical pot is doing to your brain.  You throw out all of these crazy accusations and lump anyone you see into this crazed, right wing group.  Truth is, there’s a lot of people that aren’t blindly loyal to anything left or right.  And there’s a lot of stuff that you envision that just doesn’t exist.  But keep pecking away at your keyboard spouting your blind hate, I’m sure it makes your days very rewarding.

Man, you gotta quit huffing msm.  R is about to get 50 seats in the senate, plus we always have our wildcard (manchin).  R is about to get the house majority too.  
 

bad news - not as much of that sweet, sweet govt money headed your way over the next two years.  
 

good news - there’s a chance you’ll continue to get you govt benefits checks because there are now people in place to check potato in chief’s shopping sprees 

2 hours ago, homersapien said:

"Warnock is pure evil"    

A man that masquerades as a preacher but compromises on anything remotely biblical, he’s the worst of the worst

4 hours ago, homersapien said:

Of course you are confused.  I wouldn't expect otherwise.

You provided an example of one Democrat (you claim encouraged violence) as proof the "left" encourages violence).

I used that same logic to provide (multiple) examples proving that Republicans - or the "right" - support pedophilia and sex crimes.

If you are still confused, try to find a responsible adult - if such a thing exists in your world - to explain it to you.

If you diddle, just get it off your chest.  Confession is good for the soul…..

4 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Here you go pensacola.

Let's apply your logic, and I'll show you proof Republicans support pedophilia and other sex crimes.  (And it's a lot more than just one example.)

From left to right: Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert (who admitted to sex crimes) Rep. Jim Jordan (who was accused or turning a blind eye to sex crimes) former Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore (who was accused of … well, you know), and Rep. Matt Gaetz (who is being investigated for possible sex crimes).

So, Let’s Talk About Republicans and Sex Crimes

By Jordan Weissmann  April 9, 2022

 

Because American politics are now just one, long, low-rent nightmare, Republican culture warriors have spent the past few weeks slandering their various enemies as being soft on pedophilia. For some time, this sort of raving was mostly confined to adherents of QAnon, the Trump-idolizing conspiracy cult that believes Democratic politicians and other elites are secretly operating a global child trafficking ring.

But a confluence of events has helped bring a version of it mainstream.

During the Supreme Court confirmation hearings of judge Ketanji Brown Jackson in March, Republican Senators Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz attempted to smear the nominee by inaccurately claiming that she had a record of handing out unusually light sentences in cases where defendants were accused of viewing child pornography. The issue descended deeper into absurdity after three moderate Republicans voted to confirm Jackson this week and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene—the walking id of MAGA-America—tweeted about them, saying “Murkowski, Collins, and Romney are pro-pedophile.”

Meanwhile, defenders of Florida’s new “don’t say gay” law, which strictly limits public school teachers’ ability to discuss LGBTQ people and issues in the classroom, began referring to the legislation as an “anti-grooming” bill—evoking the deeply homophobic idea that an adult would only talk about these topics with a child in order to prime them for abuse. After Disney, one of Florida’s largest employers, called for the law to be repealed, conservative social media influencers and Fox News personalities like Laura Ingraham launched a wild crusade against the company accusing it too of being complicit in “grooming.”

This is all galling. But it’s especially rich considering that, of the two major parties, the GOP has many more notable and recent scandals involving the sexual abuse of minors and young students—as well as a recent track record of reacting to them with a shrug.

Let’s review some of that history …

In 2006, Florida Rep. Mark Foley was forced to resign after it was revealed that he’d sent sexually explicit messages and propositioned teenage congressional pages via email and text.

In 2015, former Rep. Dennis Hastert, the longest-ever serving Republican speaker of the House, pleaded guilty to making illegal hush-money payments in order to cover up his history of sexually abusing high school wrestlers he had coached decades before.

“Nothing is more stunning than having ‘serial child molester’ and ‘speaker of the House’ in the same sentence,” the judge said at his sentencing.

During and after the 2016 presidential race, among the dozens of women who accused former president Donald Trump of being a sexual predator were several contestants in the 1997 Miss Teen USA pageant, who reported that he barged into their dressing room while girls as young as 15 were changing. (Trump allegedly told them, “Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.”)

His campaign denied the accusation, but CNN unearthed a 2005 Howard Stern interview where Trump bragged about walking into backstage dressing rooms at the pageants he ran.

During the 2018 midterms, Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore was accused of preying on girls as young as 14 and 16; the New Yorker reported that his habit of trying to pick up high schoolers was so notorious that it actually got him banned from a local mall.

Also in 2018, Rep. Jim Jordan, one of Trump’s fiercest allies and a co-founder of the hardline conservative Freedom Caucus, became embroiled in a scandal over his time as a wrestling coach at Ohio State University, where a team doctor named Richard Strauss, who committed suicide in 2005, was found to have sexually abused more than 177 male student athletes.

An investigation commissioned by the university found that Strauss regularly used examinations as an excuse to grope and fondle the students, sometimes to the point of ejaculation; often ordered them to strip nude unnecessarily; and in two cases, attempted to perform oral sex. Numerous former wrestlers told reporters that Jordan was personally aware of the abuse during the early 1990s but chose to turn a blind eye. The Congressman simply denied having any knowledge of it—and suggested at least one of the accusers claiming otherwise was acting on a personal vendetta against him.

And finally, Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida is currently the subject of a literal sex-trafficking investigation, which is looking into whether he had sex with an underage 17-year-old girl, among other issues. (Greene is close with Gaetz, who denies the allegations, and has defended him.)

On Twitter, liberals have taken to rattling off this list of scandals—among others—in response to conservative accusations of grooming (in a somewhat apt turn of events, a former Republican National Committee staffer was sentenced for a child pornography conviction the same day Jackson was confirmed to the court).

Some have gone further, remarking that the GOP is particularly afflicted with a pedophilia problem. “Every accusation is a confession,” goes one popular refrain. (Some large social media accounts have been trying to make the phrase “pedocon” stick.)

Personally, I don’t think Democrats ought to start earnestly debating with Republicans over which party really has more pedophiles overall (which is a sentence I can’t really believe I’m typing, but here we are). Sexual abuse and misconduct doesn’t have a partisan valence. You can certainly find some Democrats out in the world who’ve been convicted on child porn charges. And never forget that Anthony Weiner went to jail for sexting a 15-year-old.

But if conservatives are going to smear progressives as “groomers” and pose as the nation’s protectors of children, it’s certainly fair to bring up this history in retort. It’s also entirely valid to note how weak the GOP’s response has been to recent scandals concerning its own rank-and-file.

The way Republicans set aside the vast array of sexual abuse charges against Trump and lined up behind him has been discussed so many times that there’s no real need to go over it again. The party’s response to Moore, meanwhile, was what you might describe as, well, semi-pathetic. To their credit, a number of elected Republicans called on Moore to exit the race or said they would vote for a write-in candidate, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee pulled its funding from his campaign.

The Republican National Committee did as well, at least briefly.

But after Donald Trump decided to reendorse Moore, the RNC resumed its support of his candidacy, stating, “We stand with the president.”

When it came to Jordan, congressional Republicans simply circled the wagons. In 2018, then House Speaker Paul Ryan waved off demands for an ethics committee inquiry into whether Jordan was lying about his conduct as a wrestling coach, saying that the panel “investigates things that members do while they’re here, not things that happened a couple of decades ago when they weren’t in Congress.”

He then called Jordan “a man of honesty and a man of integrity.”

Later, in 2020, Jordan’s GOP colleagues selected him to become the top ranking Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, which handles federal criminal legislation—including on issues such as sex trafficking and child pornography. Liz Cheney, then the No. 3 Republican in the House, said it was a “totally unified decision all around.”

This all unfolded in the face of credible allegations that Jordan not only knew about the abuse at Ohio State, but had responded to multiple students who told him about it with comments like “If he tried that on me, I would kill him.” By all accounts, Strauss’ behavior was an open secret. Six former wrestlers told CNN that they were personally present when Jordan heard misconduct complaints about the doctor. A former ref also filed a lawsuit alleging that he complained to Jordan and another coach after Strauss masturbated in front of him, and they merely responded, “Yeah, that’s Strauss.”

Jordan claims that he was cleared of any wrongdoing in the official report by Ohio State’s investigators, which did not mention his name. “The investigators concluded what we have said from the beginning: Congressman Jordan never knew of any abuse, and if he had he would have dealt with it.”

But that’s not what the report actually said. Rather, the investigators wrote that, except in the case of one coach, they could not “identify any other contemporaneous documentary evidence” proving that athletic staff were aware of Strauss’s actions. In other words, there was no paper trail. However, they added that “22 coaches confirmed to the Investigative Team that they were aware of rumors and/or complaints about Strauss, dating back to the late 1970s and extending into the mid-1990s.”

It is theoretically possible that Jordan really had his head so deeply buried in the sand during his coaching days that he knew nothing about what was happening on his team, and that the more than half-dozen witnesses who claim otherwise are simply lying or misremembering. (Several other former Ohio State coaches issued a statement saying they were unaware of Strauss’s misconduct).

A much simpler explanation, however, would be that Jordan himself lied to cover his complicity in a culture of tolerance around sexual abuse. Either way, Republicans chose to make him one of their most powerful members in Congress in spite of this unresolved cloud.

As for Gaetz, well, darkly enough, he also serves with Jordan on the Judiciary Committee—which has jurisdiction over the very Justice Department currently investigating him.

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy said last year he wouldn’t punish Gaetz or strip him of any committee assignments unless charges are filed, because Gaetz is “innocent until proven guilty.”

“If it comes out to be true, yes, we would remove him if that’s the case,” McCarthy said at the time. “But right now Matt Gaetz says that it’s not true, and we don’t have any information. So let’s get all the information.”

For now, the obvious conflict of interest remains. The Republicans have apparently decided that the committee in charge of sex crimes legislation should include one guy currently being investigated for actual sex crimes—and another who allegedly looked the other way on them. It’s not exactly the behavior of a party that cares deeply about sexual abuse.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/04/from-hastert-to-gaetz-lets-talk-about-republicans-and-sex-crimes.html

 

Weird deflection - you said the left wasn’t pushing for violence.  That was a lie, I shared an example contradicting your lie.  
 

then you send me a weird article about diddling.  Is this a weird admission that you diddle?  I’m confused?

Don’t know enough about 3rd party candidates in that race.  Warnock is pure evil, I don’t trust Herschel, ……is there a libertarian on the ballot?🤣

Yeah, I saw he’s a pastor in Columbus.  I’m thinking he’s more of a leftist than a pastor. MSM is fanning the ole embers against Christian’s right now, don’t get caught up in the hype

Where do you find crap like this🤣

I get it man, you hate Christians.  I’m sorry you have to be a coward about it and call us Christian nationalists.  No, we’re Christians and you hate us.  There, do you feel better now?

There’s two main factors:

1) our collective IQ has dropped significantly.  We’re literally a nation of fat morons

2) half the population is voting to affect their govt assisted income.   
 

To summarize, people are dumb and done of them are just voting to increase the size of their Uncle Sam check.  Of course this war is about to go hot

Oh I will!

6 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

Wow...I dont think I will even try to put sanity into the conversation. So when towns were allowed to burn while their Dem Mayors sat back and did nothing, that was actually trying to stop the violence...BY DOING NOTHING.

LMAO!

 

I posted an example of a leftist leader encouraging violence and it’s met with lefty silence.  There is no point in trying to educate them, they are all worked up about “muh democracy”

On 11/6/2022 at 8:14 PM, homersapien said:

That's totally irrelevant to the issue on the table. 

Yes, all violence is bad, especially if you are victimized by it (duuuh!)

Just like white lives matter also.  (duuuuh)     

(And btw, the term "Black Lives Matter" was obviously coined to highlight the frequent incidences of black people being killed by police, often in questionable circumstances.  Hell, the "BLM protests" were sparked in particular by the cops kneeling on George Floyd until he died. The violence that ensued in some of this riots was born from rage from experience such racism.  It certainly didn't take any Democratic urging. )

In no way did Democrats promote violence among black protestors, your "opinion" not withstanding. 

Why would they?

Do you think Democrats think such violence supports the cause of racial equality or helps to prevent police abuse? 

Do you think Democrats believe racially-motivated violence in general is good for them politically?

Do you think Democrats believe that any violence is good for them politically?

To suggest violent riots that unfortunately emerged from black protests against police brutality is somehow equivalent to the current politically-based threats that are clearly partisan, and clearly emanating from the MAGA right is as crazy as it gets. 

MAGA Republicans constantly run advertisements promoting "2nd Amendment solutions" (wink, wink), welcome support from extremist groups and white nationalists, support extremist groups "patrolling" ballet collection sites, nominate people who are explicit in their intentions to steal elections, and run for state positions that would allow them to do so, constantly allude to Christo fascism, erect gallows at their Jan. 6 political rally, and ******* break into the capital looking for Pelosi and other leaders...... ( I could go on)

Then they are just shocked! Shocked I tell you!  When some nut who has been listening to - and believing them - tries to hurt someone.

And the best you can do is to claim Democrats support violence because of some violent riots instigated by blacks protesting police abuse? 

That is the most absurd, over-the-top, crazy whataboutism I could even imagine. 

Even coming from you. 

 

 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/04/19/politics/maxine-waters-derek-chauvin-trial/index.html

“Muh democracy” is code for, let’s declare half the country as racist, terrorists.  
 

Dems have nothing to run on.  Last two years have been a s*** show, without drama they got nothing 

22 hours ago, homersapien said:

 

What's embarrassing - actually more like frightening - is that Republicans are apparently fine with Trump running again in 2024, (78% in fact).

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3825

Hell, over 300 Republican candidates in next week's election claim he won in 2020!

So assuming Trump runs in 24 - a fair assumption - it's reasonable to assume he will be nominated. 

So, your last sentence is essentially correct. In 2024, we will be voting on whether or not to put an authoritarian in office. One who's already demonstrated his willingness to ignore the rule of law, and thus, our tradition of a peaceful transfer of power.

(Keep in mind that Mussolini, Hitler, Orban, and Putin were all elected to power.)

It's fine to oppose - or even obsess, in your case - on Biden for whatever reasons. That's just normal politics in this country. 

But Biden is not on the ballet.   Fortunately - at least for you - and assuming the Republicans take control of one or both houses, which seems more and more likely, Biden will become a non-issue.  We'll be spending the next two years in policy gridlock and in fruitless investigations.

So - and I am giving you the benefit of doubt - what should most concern you is the future of the Republican party and who will be their 2024 nominee for POTUS. 

Right now, every indicator suggests that will be Trump and authoritarianism. 

As for me, I sincerely hope Biden chooses not to run in 24.  He's certainly not my first choice and never has been.  But I will vote for any alternative to Trump.  I value our democracy to do otherwise.

 

 

Hitler was elected during a socialist movement.  He could have never centralized power under the old German Republic system.  He needed socialism/centralization before he could become a full dictator.  Just adding some context for your reflection……

We don’t look like a good football team, but I see guys that want to win.  And I haven’t seen that in awhile.  Pretty clear the decision to head in a new direction was right

It’s embarrassing 

He has a better resume’ than Deion 

32 minutes ago, icanthearyou said:

There really are no teachers, no pastors other than Jesus.  Jesus in our hearts is all that matters.  Knowing Jesus is the goal.  

Imagine the world if,,, everyone lived in the love of Jesus.  

Yes - that is our goal as Christians!  We need to be very wary of false teachers though, Christ warned us many times.

1 hour ago, icanthearyou said:

I do not lead anyone.  I follow Jesus to the best of my ability.  My only goal is to serve the will of Jeusus and, try to reflect His love, mercy, grace a little better, day by day.

And, I truly do wish you well.  I pray your heart finds peace, joy, love, contentment.  

 

That mighty kind of you, thank you.  I thought one of the guys mentioned you are a pastor.

17 minutes ago, icanthearyou said:

Sure, that's what you are doing.  See what I mean?  You are not honest.  I wish you well.

I take no offense because you don’t know me from Adam.  I wish you neither ill nor well, but look to understand if you’re leading people to Christ or away from him.  

2 minutes ago, icanthearyou said:

You are a dishonest person.

So I seek to better understand you and you cast an uneducated insult?  When will we get to meet the peace and mercy version of you?