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24 minutes ago, MustardSeed said:

Good luck to you. I’m done supporting anything this University does until every single person involved with this hire no longer works there or gives money. That will likely be til my death and that’s perfectly fine. They’ve sold their souls for power and greed and I’ll not have any part of it ever again. 

They should really remove the creed from Auburn.  

I stopped going to Auburn games b/c they refused to fire Gus Malzahn, and then, in 2017, the buffoons running Auburn gave him a fat contract extension.  Football is not important enough to be upset about .. there are no eternal consequences for those of us who just turn it off.  

I think I'm just done.  The money has ruined the sport, and Auburn has crushed my love.

15 hours ago, MustardSeed said:

Should be literally all the proof you should ever need to never give them another penny.  Even if they turn out to be right, they have no more inside info than this board…and I sure didn’t see Kiffin announced today so..

As it turns out, Phillip Marshall saying there have been NO leaks, and no one has any idea what is happening with this search, and Josh Pate saying he just doesn't know, are the most credible opinions I've heard.  

1 minute ago, MustardSeed said:

The forcing young girls to change in front of him Halle Ed before Ole Miss…that was a different environment. As for the latest ones I’d assume you won’t find out until the federal investigation into the covering up of sexual assaults at Liberty is complete…and even then it may not be made public. 
But I can guarantee you this. If the feds are investigating a cover up and potentially multiple felony sexual assaults/rapes and the head football coach is accused of trying to silence one of the victims…he’s gonna be right in the center of their investigation 

At best, I'd say that all the allegations, investigations, lawsuits and charges need to be cleared before any school hires him.  I'm kinda of surprised that Liberty hired him. 

It's a shame for him if these allegations are not true, but it's a risk I don't think Auburn should take, particularly, as you point out, for a mediocre coach.

3 minutes ago, MustardSeed said:

One accusation is one thing. He’s had a pattern of this garbage for a decade minimum. And it’s not like you’d be hiring some world beater worth the risk anyways. He’s a better than average college coach with an insane amount of baggage. He’s literally part of a current federal investigation into covering up sexual assaults at Liberty. Good grief how low have we sunk that we need to justify hiring an above average coach with such baggage?  Why should we take that risk for an almost guaranteed middle of the road SEC coach?  It’s one of the most idiotic moves a business leader could make….it would turn our brand to garbage. 

Throwing out all the allegations, I agree completely on him as a football coach.  He's just average.

7 minutes ago, MustardSeed said:

He’s been accused of forcing young girls to change in front of him and secretly messaging rape victims to get them to shut up. Should there be more required?

Is there any chance these are false accusations that are just intended to smear an innocent man?  The maiden brigade is rather nefarious in the current "we hate men" environment, and frequently blow the rape whistle when a man simply acknowledges she's pretty.

3 minutes ago, Hank2020 said:

We are way past this argument!! Time to move on IMO.

Maybe so, but we are, in this moment, reaping what has been sown at Auburn over the past nearly 10 years.  Before we move into our unknown future, we should ALL be clear that the Auburn boosters, in cahoots with media and other bitter insiders, disparaged a man in a temper fit intended to incitine moral outrage.  They tried to use the moral compass of the Auburn people to create an uprising against Harsin for an apparently unproven lie.  It's the same "wrap up smear" we see in politics.

I've always thought a lot of Auburn as an institution, and the Auburn family as a whole, and the truth about how we treated Bryan Harsin still stings.

2 minutes ago, gr82b4au said:

Harsin already burned this thing to the foundation. That would tear the foundation up. 

I blame the boosters, those who refused to fire Gus when it was CLEAR in 2015 that he's a high school coach, and those who, in a temper tantrum, defamed Harsin to poison his tenure FAR more than I blame Harsin.

2 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

just dunna call the popo as i am holding with my pot vape..........lol

Just tell them it's medical .. the state will tax it, but it may keep you out of jail.

2 minutes ago, NWALA Tiger said:

I wonder if he is a poster on the board

I have no idea.  He needs to think more of himself than to blather expletives in place of an argument.  It does not bolster his point, and it reflects poorly on him.

10 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

too late. i jumped off the bridge to end it all and i caught my pants leg on the railing and now i am just dangling here twisting in the wind and it is YOUR fault because of your timing..................lol

Oh dear .. we should call somebody!  

30 minutes ago, VegasEagle said:

 

I'm not sure when it happened, but Americans have evidently become so illiterate, poorly educated, and poorly spoken that swearing has become the only way to provide emphasis, although not clarity, to whatever point is being made.

Not sure what his point was b/c I refuse to listen to an expletive laden rant.  It is a clue that there may be a low IQ, and an inability to critically think through issues and articulate a position.  It simply undermines any point he is trying to make.

10 minutes ago, gctiger said:

Should change the thread title to The Daily BM!

Well played.

21 minutes ago, aucanucktiger said:

Fwiw and as we now know from the pre-Harsin search, "front runner" is some reporter's notion of who they think might be a favorite at a given moment but they really have no idea and an AU offer may not have even been made or seriously considered. 

Our media is absolutely garbage, and that includes the sports media.  There seems to be no actual journalism, just propaganda and political biases to sell consumers of their drivel what they want to be true.

56 minutes ago, W.E.D said:

Despises recruiting

So, better suited for the NFL, although the new college minor league football system may be right on time for just buying players.  It could be his time!  😬

1 hour ago, TeamZero77 said:

He played Tennessee like a fiddle in their 2020 coaching search. They truly thought they were hiring him but Franklin played them to get a raise at Penn State. Tennessee then hired Heupel. 

Franklin has done that a few times since he got to Penn State. I don't see him leaving there though. He is a native of Pennsylvania. He does a good job though. He won the 2016 Big 10 Championship, beat us 2 years in a row, has his team 10-2 and ranked 8th in the AP. He has 10+ wins in 4 of his 9 years there. At Vandy he was 6-7, 9-4 and 9-4. He was 24-15, made a bowl appearance every year and was ranked top 25 in 2 of those 3 years. That's amazing at Vandy. 

He had some stuff happen at Vandy with players getting prison terms for sexual assault. Penn State still hired him after that but that wouldn't fly at Auburn.

Sounds like he's a Jimmy Sexton client?

1 hour ago, AuGrad2004 said:

It's a little different.  He was the coach at Clemson and said roll tide after beating us.  Like I said, I think he is a great coach and would be a great hire.  I'm just not sure he is the best fit for AU. 

 

And for the record:  Gus never cussed.  He said 'crap"

I love that about Gus!  He's a mediocre football coach as wins and losses go, but I love his heart for Jesus and that he considers coaching his ministry!

1 hour ago, woodford said:

“Just Auburn being Auburn”

Oh!  Thank you ..

13 minutes ago, Cardin Drake said:

I agree with you about Harsin.  And that's why Cohen should have realized Kiffen was a long shot all along, and been ready for him to stay at Ole Miss. But right now, the delay is becoming part of the story.  If we would have hired Brian Johnson on Sunday, there would have been a lot of bitching about the lack of a splash hire. But he's an impressive and personable guy, and all the noise would have vanished after his first press conference.  I don't know if he's a great coach, but his public persona is exactly what everyone is after.  But the longer we wait, the more it becomes apparent that he wasn't our first, second or third choice, because we didn't even bother vetting him until our other choices flamed out.  And waiting doesn't guarantee a good choice. It just tells everyone you are scrambling for a candidate while the best guys get taken. I'll apologize to Cohen if we hire Dabo, but right now he just looks like a complete screwup. Do you know how hard it is to recruit when you are selling "Don't worry. We'll get a head coach any day now, and I'm sure he's going to be great!"

I don't know much about Brian Johnson.  He evidently has good SEC experience, and has done well in the NFL?  The knock on him is his lack of HC experience. 

Does a lack of HC experience mean a candidate won't be a great HC?  Not in my book.  But, there is also a lot to be said for taking on the HC duties at a smaller job and growing into a job like Auburn.  We may not be in a position to poach an experienced successful HC.  But, I'm in the Dan Lanning camp, so I've already made peace with hiring a solid coach with great, but unproven, potential!

3 minutes ago, Cardin Drake said:

I agree with you about Harsin.  And that's why Cohen should have realized Kiffen was a long shot all along, and been ready for him to stay at Ole Miss. But right now, the delay is becoming part of the story.  If we would have hired Brian Johnson on Sunday, there would have been a lot of bitching about the lack of a splash hire. But he's an impressive and personable guy, and all the noise would have vanished after his first press conference.  I don't know if he's a great coach, but his public persona is exactly what everyone is after.  But the longer we wait, the more it becomes apparent that he wasn't our first, second or third choice, because we didn't even bother vetting him until our other choices flamed out.  And waiting doesn't guarantee a good choice. It just tells everyone you are scrambling for candidate. I'll apologize to Cohen if we hire Dabo, but right now he just looks like a complete screwup. Do you know how hard it is to recruit when you are selling "Don't worry. We'll get a head coach any day now, and I'm sure he's going to be great!"

I think the current staff is selling their love for Auburn, the wonderful tradition at Auburn, the love the Auburn people have, not only for the football team, but for the school, etc.  Whatever they're selling, it's working to flip kids from other commitments.  Having that NIL funding is a draw at this stage of college football madness.  The current free agency & NIL player purchasing now driving college football is not a sustainable model, though.

"Sooner or later, you run out of other people's money." - Margaret Thatcher

3 hours ago, Stephen66 said:

You OnlyFreezers, this ain't going away....

 

https://twitter.com/AuburnMemes/status/1597078976731566080?s=20&t=2u1s8EGz5kghOsYZJxteuw

 

 

 

And the hits just keep on comin' ... 

3 hours ago, ToomersRevenge said:

I think Lee Corso will be free soon.

Pretty sure he'll make a run for Senate.

21 minutes ago, Cardin Drake said:

It's worth waiting for Dabo, but I don't think he is really a realistic option.  We've had 4 weeks and months before that where we knew it would happen. Every other school got it done already.  Flushing this recruiting/portal cycle is just not an option. We don't want to put the new coach in a hole that he can't climb out of.  We are screwing up badly by waiting.  And if it's for a guy who is not a "splash" hire, it is just making it that much worse.  Every day that goes by now is setting us back.

The current staff is hanging in there with recruiting.  It may not be a top 10 class, but we'll recover.  What we won't recover from, at least not soon, is hiring a "flashy" coach instead of a substantial coach.

This won't be popular, but part of the mess we're in now has been caused by how we treated Bryan Harsin.  The insider led smears on him poisoned his tenure at Auburn, wrecked his ability to recruit, wrecked his ability to keep/hire coaches, and wrecked the team unity.  Maybe Harsin was not a good fit, but the temper tantrum waged in unfounded booster & insider led attacks on his character were unconscionable.  We should all be embarrassed by how Auburn treated him.  Instead of trying to destroy the man, they should have just said he's not a good fit, and let him go.  Before we fired him, it was completely foreseeable that we would have a problem getting coaches to come b/c of how we treated him.  I said it before he was fired, and, now, here we are.  No crystal ball required.

20 minutes ago, Mikey said:

"Just because fans want instant gratification doesn't mean that instant gratification is the best way to proceed."

The long game is also true in choosing a coach!  Too many fans want a coach who will win FAST instead of win LONG!  We had that with Gusball .. 

2 hours ago, Taker said:

About as trustworthy as anyone else with internet and an opinion... 

Spitting out an idea from inside ones own brain as if it is factual... 

Wait .. are you saying everything on the internet isn't true?  🤓