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I played with Colis (how he spelled it). He was one year ahead of me. We went 8-2 and missed the playoffs, but something like 11 guys on that team played college ball somewhere. Colis was a monster, and our QB Rodney Jarmon signed with Bama but got into bad stuff and wound up coming home.

Kids from Russellville threw rocks at our bus after the game. That'd be 1981, we (Coffee) won, but they had a good team. Think they went to the semi-finals. I didn't know all this about Gargis, but I went to every game in 1972 when Colbert County won the championship. I was just 7, so I don't remember all the road trips. That team, though, had Ozzie Newsome and Thad Flannigan. (My Mom taught there.) Played against Crain. Rough night for us. I snapped a punt over our punter's head for a TD, and I was pissed. Next time we punted, he was returning, and I had a clean shot at him as the ball was coming down. I mean, his soul was about to leave his body. He panicked and dropped the ball. I got it on one bounce at about their 33, nothing but green grass in front of me. (Some of you know the problem already.) I only made it 12 yards: he tracked me down and absolutely destroyed me. Could barely breathe. And of course, the ref started walking the ball back to where I picked it up. But seriously, in high school, he was no Wes Neighbors. Sheesh.

Sure that’s why he went to the fraternities. 👹

Three thoughts. 1 Tech dropped the regular series when it was clear Auburn and others had moved beyond them as a program 2 I’m sure Auburn saw some benefit in playing in Atlanta for a long time 3 The schools have less in common than they once did

I blame ESPN for a lot. When the national coverage dwarfs local coverage, all that matters is horse races: who'll make the playoff, and who'll win the Heisman. It diminishes everyone and everything else. Mississippi State had a pretty terrific year this year, but it's kind of a downer because of what didn't happen. Vandy made a ton of progress, but again nobody cares. Also, get off my lawn.

Splendid reply. Thank you.

There are administrators, there are employees, and there are persons outside the organization. Different rules for each category.

I said this on another thread. The context is active legal action and federal investigation, and he's tampering with a complainant/potential witness. In most of the business world, definitely in my neck of the academic world, that's a fireable offense. It's certainly disqualifying for a hire.

No. This is not about Hugh Freeze getting second chances. I hope he gets all the second chances in the world. For example, his wife and daughters are still with him. This is about running an institution with integrity. Just months ago, the guy was messaging an alum of his own institution to stop talking about their failures to protect women from sexual assault, specifically hiring a guy who left his previous job due to him implication in a series of institutional failures regarding sexual assault by athletes. I teach in a theological seminary. Please do not confuse institutional integrity with forgiveness and second chances. Those are very different things. I will always love Auburn. But I am done with Auburn sports. Those are different things too.

Regarding the culture, it's well documented that Liberty mishandled a BUNCH of Title IX allegations. And it hired an athletic director directly implicated in a BUNCH of mishandled Title IX allegations. That's what I mean by culture.

The PM is public, for crying out loud.

He is one of the most powerful men in a university, telling a former student who is among 20+ students conducting legal action against the university that she should basically shut up regarding the university's conduct in precisely the area spotlighted by the legal action. If you know an employment attorney or HR officer, run that by them. In fact, it suggests he's part of the problem, a culture that doesn't take women's safety seriously. If it happened in the business world, he might lose his job and he'd struggle to find employment elsewhere.

If you're up on the thread, you know these DMs are precisely the reason I believe Auburn should not consider Freeze. That said, nothing in the story indicates that federal investigators are looking into Freeze personally.

I guess it's fine if you don't believe Baylor's law firm, or ESPN, or the NCAA. But then how do you decide what you do believe? I mean, it's hard to take an opinion seriously that's based on nothing that's available to us all.

Explain what this means. To my understanding, Briles was not exonerated at all. As I posted above, the 2021 NCAA report is damning.