Elephant Tipper

The issue is NOT complex. People say that to evade/diminish the discussion of abortion. Either you believe life begins at the moment of conception or you don't. If you do believe life begins at conception, then ivf is out of consideration because ivf involves the abortion of embryos in order to have live births. Abortion of embryos is a part of ivf. Btw, billions of people who are not Christian believe abortion to be wrong. Expand the scope of your understanding of this issue.

No, I don't think that you understand what ivf is. IVF requires the abortion of some implanted embryos. The physician makes the determination as to which embryos will be aborted, otherwise every woman who had ivf would be an octomom.

You didn't read or don't understand the consequences of ivf. Ivf involves the abortion of some embryos in order to have a live birth. To be logical, you're better off saying that you are okay with aborting embryos in order to have a live birth.

TT wasn't arguing. He answered a simple question. Having said that, what was "dumb" about his comment ?

I'm not willing to expand the discussion, only limiting it to the premise. Purposely killing a baby to create a baby is not God's will.

How many babies were killed to have those who were born ? Yes, it is simple if you claim to be pro life. Those who say they are pro life and promote ivf either are ignorant of the details of the procedure or are not pro life. A person cannot be pro life and promote the death of other babies to satisfy their desire for a child.

No, again, ivf promotes abortion, which TT, as a Christian, is against, whether it causes more births or not. TT is pro life. Why would he promote a policy that includes abortion ?

Let's just say that Biden should be more diplomatic with his words, especially when he has imperfect knowledge. Was Navalny murdered ? Probably, but are we to allow a man with demented reasoning escalate the dilemma ? JB's foreign policy is at best monosyllabic, "DON'T". JB et al (military and political advisors) unnecessarily keep trying to corner VP. He might just strike back. Ukraine is not our issue.

You've left the reader to assume that by "dumbass" you refer to the seeming contradiction that TT wants Alabamians to have more babies, but opposes the specific practice of ivf would give more babies. Not knowing your understanding of ivf I'll try to clarify. As a Christian, I, as most, know that life begins at the moment of conception which ivf does produce and the eggs are then not just some protoplasm which can be used in scientific experiments like ivf. Ivf produces multiple fertilized eggs, which are babies at their earliest form and are therefore sacred before God and man. The process of ivf is one of selection by the physician who decides which baby is to be implanted with the hope of producing a viable baby (-ies). The remaining fertilized eggs are discarded like trash, abortion, sometimes not and are frozen ((another discussion unto itself). Again, these eggs are sacred life. Once fertilized eggs are implanted, then, after a period of time, the physician further decides which implanted eggs remain and which are to be aborted. Ivf cheapens life and dishonors God, especially with the subtle practice of aborting fertilized eggs. Life is precious at all stages, especially as an embryo which cannot defend itself. The Biden-Harris campaign deceives the reader with an overly simplistic understanding of ivf by using a gotcha moment. Ivf always causes abortions. THAT bit of info the Biden-Harris campaign does not want the public to understand and would rather the public view ivf as a compassionate means to give babies to those who desperately want them. For TT to explain this would have taken more time in another discussion, as he stated. If you believe that sacred life begins at conception, then whom do you trust to guide, Biden-Harris or Tuberville ? If you're okay with abortion, then you're okay with ivf and the Biden-Harris team promoting the practice. Life begins at the moment of conception.

Who killed Epstein ?

lol, that would be the most innocuous of all my nicknames among my friends. Go for it !

Tag, you're IT.

aubiefifty, you do and shall have my fervent prayers.

This is as close as you're ever going to see DJT being locked up

That would really piss them off, kind of like the mugs he's selling with his face pressed against prison bars.