aubfaninga

Cox spin on 4th please

Hey Qb. Go sit on the bench for completing a long pass

14 minutes ago, wareagleguy said:

Nothing like being an Auburn fan come fall! 

I have never seen anything like this before. Three and a halfback Qb with WRs at tailback. Cox faking a speed sweep on 3rd down. Yep that's gotta work

This will be probably the most negative thing I ever felt about Auburn but.....

Either Lashlee or Gus needs to be ran out of Auburn this Sunday regardless of the outcome. This is not even sandlot football calls. 

I have a few questions for Poet Tiger and aubfaninga actually: Why are you two very defensive when anything is negative said about Chizik as a head coach or when people point out his flaws? And I know you guys like facts, so here are some:

1. We are 4-10 against our big 4 rivals ( UGA, LSU, Ark, and UA) since he has been here, and that is including 2010.

2. We have had 3 straight top 10 recruiting classes.

3. Our players on offense were recruited to play the spread, not pro-style offense, which, again is Chizik's fault.

4. We have had 1 player not named Cam or Nick that was recruited by Chizik to be drafted in the NFL.

5. Our defense has NEVER been in the top 50 since he has been here ( even in 2008 we had a top 25 defense), and he is supposed to know defense.

6. Name 2 players that have seen significant improvement in development since Chizik has been here.

I could go on and on, but I think you see my point. I am not trying to cause anything, but I am just trying to understand how people can defend Chizik. Yes, I know he's a good guy, but he's not being paid millions to be a good guy, he's being paid for two reasons: 1) To graduate players, which he is not doing, and 2) to win, and win consistently, which he is not doing. Can you honestly state that we have improved since he has been here? And the worst part about it is that we won the NC in 2010, yet we have DECLINED since then, which is NEVER supposed to happen. You can blame youth all you want, but if that youth were ever coached properly, you would have seen improvement every week this year, which we have not. I would even actually say Clemson and LSU were our best games, but we have declined since those games. I am always for objective criticism, but sometimes there is a difference between constructive criticism and blind criticism, which I believe you two have the latter. I am alum, and I want what is best for Auburn. I did not like the hiring of Chizik at first, but then 2010 came, and I had thought that I could be wrong. However, last year was the turning point because I saw no improvement in our team, and we are watching the same team this year with no improvement. I'll say we can recruit like crazy, but that means nothing when you cannot coach them up. I believe Chizik was a shot in the dark, and now you are seeing his true colors as a head coach.

By the way, this does not even include the numerous off-the-field incidents and attrition we have had since Chizik has been here....

I have said it before and I will say it now. I can't say if Chiz is the coach to get us where we want. I can say that I want one more year. Auburn will never get anywhere if we change head coaches every 4 years. Do you agree?

#1 From 2005 to 2008 UAT, UGA, LSU, and even ARK was way ahead of us in the recruiting area.

#2 We have had 3 straight top 10 recruiting classes! Why is this a bad thing. The 2010 class was a flop but the 2011 and 2012 players are already on the field in mass.

#3 Chiz can take the blame for winning 1 NC in his 4 years using the spread and then thinking that Auburn can win more without it. Maybe we can, Maybe we can't. I know that Auburn has won more games without using the spread.

#4 What kind of statement is that when you know Chiz did not sign a class until 2009? (with about 3 months to do so) Have you ever heard of a guy named Brandon Mosely though?

#5 One word... Spread! I am not saying the spread is bad just that a 7 to 6 score between bama and LSU is the same as a 71 to 72 score between Oregon and Oklahoma St.

#6 I don't call the 2009 class all Chiz so I will leave them off. Tre Mason, Reese Dismukes, CJ Uzomah, Sammie Coates, Cody Parkey, Greg Robinson, Tunde Fariyike (Thats just 6 on offense and 1 on special teams, do you want me to continue)

You're like that South Park song, only instead of blaming Canada, you blame Tuberville.

I like Tubbs to this day. I did not blame anyone. I have just stated a fact of how many players Chiz had to work with.

Can you please tell me how many scholarship players were on the roster after the 2008 season. When you find the number can you please tell me if that sounds like an ideal situation compared to the rest of the SEC? Including Vandy!!!!

I don't think we could score on any one of those defenses with our hapless offense and we have better & more talent that Arky State

We do have more talent than Arky St.

Arky St. has been running the spread for a while now. PLayers were recruited for such. I beleive Gus walked in the door with a SR QB and about 8 other seniors on offense.

25 4th quarter possessions and no touchdowns... Only been in field goal range twice when applicable.

Please answer a simple question.

Would you be more likely to succeed if I gave you 6 months and a bunch of underclassmen or if I gave you over a year and a bunch of upperclassmen?

Its a simple question about you

Why is Roof and Gus making it work now opposed to last year????

Clearly it's because Penn State and Arky State are loaded and don't have to deal with the aftermath of Tuberville's failed recruiting. Geez, don't you know anything?

Penn St. was 20th in total defense last year and is 21st in total defense this year.

Auburn was 80th in total defense last year and is 77th in total defense this year.

Again, no sarcasm just facts

25 4th quarter possessions and no touchdowns... Only been in field goal range twice when applicable.

Please answer a simple question.

Would you be more likely to succeed if I gave you 6 months and a bunch of underclassmen or if I gave you over a year and a bunch of upperclassmen?

Its a simple question about you

Why is Roof and Gus making it work now opposed to last year????

Clearly it's because Penn State and Arky State are loaded and don't have to deal with the aftermath of Tuberville's failed recruiting. Geez, don't you know anything?

Arky St. scored 0 points against Oregon's 1st string D. Arky St. scored 13 points against Nebraska and 13 against Western Kentucky. (West. Kent. is a good ball club)

That is not sarcasm thats facts

25 4th quarter possessions and no touchdowns... Only been in field goal range twice when applicable.

Please answer a simple question.

Would you be more likely to succeed if I gave you 6 months and a bunch of underclassmen or if I gave you over a year and a bunch of upperclassmen?

Its a simple question about you

Why is Roof and Gus making it work now opposed to last year????

I am happy for Roof and Gus!!!

Take a look at the opponents Gus has played please. Tell me how well Gus did in the first 3 qtrs against Oregon.

Take a look at Penn St. schedule? Now look at Penn St. defensive depth chart? Tell me if Roof has more seniors than we do upperclassmen on both sides of the ball.

Sometimes Dye, Jacobs, Jackson and Lowder are late texting in the playcall....

That's funny I don't care who you are

Loeffler said we've been breaking the huddles with about 22 seconds left on the play clock... And please don't say Gene has been approving these play calls. I figured he did on critical plays but that's it. 10 a game at most.

I can't help with the Chiz calling plays thing

Ask the people on here that get to wear the headsets so they can hear exactly what is going on. They know more than me.

25 4th quarter possessions and no touchdowns... Only been in field goal range twice when applicable.

Please answer a simple question.

Would you be more likely to succeed if I gave you 6 months and a bunch of underclassmen or if I gave you over a year and a bunch of upperclassmen?

Its a simple question about you

Why are we starting freshman every year? I understand in some rare instances where you get a real hoss but... Why are there so many unnecessary penalties? Why are we breaking the huddle so late? Loeffler always says that we're behind schedule on 3rd down... So who's puts us in those situations?

Why are we starting freshman?

It's not excuses but facts. It will not be popular so I ask that you do your own research.

How many scholarship players were on the roster when Chiz got hired? How many months did Chiz have to get his 1st class together? How many can scholarship players can you sign each year? How many players have left for the NFL or have graduted in the last 3 years? To use a popular quote right now, "the math just don't add up"!

If you want to put all the blame on Chiz then just forget the questions above. Chiz recruited the 2010 (juniors) class and it has been a huge disapointment attrition wise. The 2009, 2011, and even the 2012(too early to judge) classes have held together much better.

When we use the word attrition please research how many players from other top SEC programs sign each year and how many of those players make it to the playing field.

You can also blame the AD and coaches for making a the decision to build from the bottom up instead of using scholarships on transfers from JUCO.