The Six

11 hours ago, AU64 said:

"unconscious bias"...….guess I would wonder how you read someone's subconscious thoughts?  

Who knows.?  ...JMO but the NFL owners have a bias toward winning and seem willing to do about anything that will get them there.  Beyond that?      I see allegations from time to time but usually based on statistics ….and can't recall seeing actual names of people who should be HCs that are not getting the jobs.

BUT the NFL is incestuous in my view and mostly just shuffles coaches from one team to the next.....it does look like a pretty closed society. 

Here's a good working definition of unconscious bias: Unconscious biases are social stereotypes about certain groups of people that individuals form outside their conscious awareness. Unconscious bias happens outside of our control. It occurs automatically and is triggered by our brain making a quick judgment.Unconscious biases are social stereotypes about certain groups of people that individuals form outside their conscious awareness. Unconscious bias happens outside of our control. It occurs automatically and is triggered by our brain making a quick judgment. (https://talentculture.com/the-truth-about-unconscious-bias-in-the-workplace/)

Basically, there's thought that owners/GMs hold minority coaching candidates to a much higher standard than their counterparts. Good example is Eric Bieniemy who has coached for nearly 20 years (after a playing career) and worked his way up the chain "the way you are supposed to" (position coach to coordinator). Every year he interviews for jobs only for them to go to the a less experienced guy. Or how African-American quarterbacks labeled as "athletic" often have their credentials as QBs questioned because of their style of play. (See Lamar Jackson, most recently.) 

Is that because of unconscious bias? I can't say, but I think it's worth discussing. 

I don't have an ax to grind. Just interested in a discussion about this if any of you have thoughts. 

5 hours ago, ToomersRevenge said:

Watching stidham on the sideline just cutting up and smiling down 10+ in the third showed you he didn't care

Maybe that's just how he handles stress. People banged on Jay Cutler for being loose and lax but he played hard. Just because he doesn't go Tom Brady on someone doesn't mean he cares less. Just means he handles his business differently. Brandon Marcello has been sowing that seed of a story about locker room problems but I'm not seeing it. They aren't coached well and aren't playing well. Happens. 

1 hour ago, bigbird said:

From people in both areas

I wonder what academic have against him. All he's done is promise to add more to their ranks and coffers since he got there. 

7 hours ago, bigbird said:

This is very true.  He is not really liked by athletics or academics.

I'll bite. What do you base that on? Honestly curious...

1 hour ago, milehighfan said:

Ever since LSU it seems Shivers doesn't seem to get many touches yet despite injury Whitlow gets his carries and Martin doesn’t play at all. I don't understand it. 

In Malzahn's offensive design certain player packages are set to run certain plays from certain formations. Always has been this way and I suppose it always will. 

People like to scoff at the 2016 Clemson game (the 3 QB rotational attack plan) as the dumbest thing in the history of ever but that plan was built on the above principle. Almost worked, too. Imagine what the season would have looked like if it had!

Malzahn got negative reinforcement with the win over Washington that this plan for this season was good. It clearly wasn't. And, as we all know by now, there is no backup plan.

Little surprised the Titans are beating up on the Patriots like this. Gronk isn't playing though so maybe they are laying back some. 

Love this show 

1 minute ago, Eagle Eye 7 said:

At least even. Remember he didn’t begin on top but was inning by his second year and he was doing it with players that were there when he got there and some he took out of JC. Same with Kirby he took over uga he has started at the bottom. Took away the players as well as the fans exceptance for mediocrity and replaced it with hard work ethics and a winning attitude . At AU our problem we are always looking for some quick fix. I would rather have a good coach come in and fix the problem. Which means Ike Saben he will have to fire folks and run players off until everybody associated get the message that anything less than full commitment will not be accepted.

And we've had spurts of success (2010, 2013) which lead us to expect things like that are the norm when, in fact, they are the anomaly. 

Tuberville built a program like you are talking about there. Then he got sick/had personal problems, trusted his guys, and introduced the wrong idea as a "quick fix" to the changing landscape. Things have never been the same since.

4 minutes ago, aujeff11 said:

Why can’t we use Gatewood like the way they use Fields?

Because he's not ready to run the scheme. 

Gus and company will need to adjust from taking "best available" to actually recruiting to fit a plan. 

1 minute ago, 80Tiger said:

 Also Greene really doesn’t have a say. If the board pushes this it could happen. 

Agree here. I just wonder if the BoT is ready to do that knowing the stain of the buyout will rest on the door of the President. That undermines his leadership in a public, major way. There's more at stake than who coaches the football team. 

6 hours ago, CR said:

Despite what Greene said this week, I still think there is a chance a change is made after the season. Auburn will only take so much embarrassment before someone finally pulls the plug. This team will be bad again next year and the people making the decision have to see that.

I just can't see them cutting him even if Alabama does to us what Clemson did to Louisville a couple weeks ago (77-16). 

They don't want this to stick on the new(ish) President Leath? I don't see the university wanting to sully him at this point. Lots of moving parts here.