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1 hour ago, Mikey said:

If you think there's a problem you haven't studied our recruiting history much. The depth on the O-line has is composed highly recruited former 3* and 4* guys that are waiting their chance.

I can promise you I’ve studied our recruiting history far more than you have, and the caliber of those players we’ve signed.

You seem to not understand the difference between “depth” and “numbers”, which means any attempted conversation further with you about this is futile in the first place.

Your only two options are as follows:

1.  Continue believing everyone else is wrong and you’re right, and then be shocked/annoyed/victimized/etc. when everyone throws it in your face as we all watch our 2020 OL be a disaster.

2.  Consider the strong possibility you’re very, very wrong here.

23 hours ago, Mikey said:

If a coach can't make a solid lineup with solid backups out of a position that's four deep in scholarship players, the problem isn't with the players because sufficient numbers are there. That would be on their coach.

To date, we haven't been faced with having a four-deep without good backups. Our O-line improved during the season, as would be expected after losing all five starters to graduation. Will we have adequate backups this coming season? I think we will. One can't say we don't have adequate quality depth when the guys down the chart have yet to be given a chance. If they are placed on the field and fail, then it could be said that they weren't adequate. Until that happens, nobody except their coaches and fellow players know how good they are or aren't. Certainly message board warriors don't know. All message board members can do is count numbers, which are fully adequate in Auburn's case.

Lost hard @ “all message board members can do is count numbers”.

No, that’s actually not all we can do.  Some of us have common sense, can make inferences based on obvious indicators and study our recruiting history so we can know a little bit about those players within our 4-deep.

Your misunderstanding of the difference between “depth” and “numbers” is mystifying for a grown man.

9 hours ago, gravejd said:

Players not liking Grimes coaching style or we trying to weed out folks that are not contributing?

Grimes is really ruining our entire program from the inside out.

Dude repels both recruits AND current players on the roster.

The level at which he sucks at his job, while still being the 4th highest paid in the country for his position, is actually impressive at this point.

8 hours ago, Mikey said:

At last we agree. The problem isn't depth after all, it's the quality of the players. Merry Christmas!

You do realize “depth” refers to numbers AND quality, right?

I swear we got some interesting characters in our fanbase.

Grimes’ non-recruiting/mediocre coaching ass simply cannot be allowed to persist on Auburn’s coaching staff any longer.

JMR:  Can I get your honest thoughts on JB Grimes as an all-around OL coach?

I personally think he’s the best “technician” in the country and a better than average recruiter who should have our OL whipped into shape within the next 4-5 years.  

IMO, our current situation is 100% Herb Hand’s fault and has nothing to do with JBG’s first tenure at AU.

What do you think you see?

4 minutes ago, 2010champs said:

Stidham is a great QB who will play many years in the NFL. 

I don’t doubt he could have a long, successful pro career, but the whole “I believe in Auburn and love it” and “he’s the best QB in the nation” was just laying it on a bit too thick, IMO.

Apologies if you weren’t trolling, but it certainly checked all the boxes.

Just now, 2010champs said:

I still believe in Auburn and love it!!! I know deep in my heat Jarrett is the best QB in the nation and we’ll see it soon enough.

Reported for obvious trolling.