Pat Fossum

1 minute ago, NWALA Tiger said:

You have to remember.  The anti Freezers are in the minority.  They are very vocal but very much in the minority 

Not true. They’re in the minority on this board. Take a step outside of AUF and they are absolutely the majority. Thankfully, our fanbase isn’t full of scumbags.

34 minutes ago, e808 said:

It’s looking that way. To want a coach with no baggage is mission impossible IMO. If a person digs hard enough everyone has something. I like Caddy but he isn’t ready. He was perfect for what Auburn needed after the firing.

Idk how many times this has to be said and have an even more difficult time understanding why this is so difficult for people on these boards to understand this while the seemingly vast majority of rest of the fanbase gets it….

Nobody is asking for a coach with zero baggage. People make mistakes and they (hopefully) learn and grow from them. That’s okay. What most people will not budge on are years of testimonies from women and girls who are now women of Hugh Freeze being a predatory creep. That goes back to Briarwood Christian (pre-Ole Miss) then you have what happened at Ole Miss. Now, at Liberty, you have him messaging a sexual assault victim attempting to shame and/or discredit them.

Now, clearly, a some of the people here can’t spell morality so I’d suspect that those same people might have a tough time with recognizing patterns, researching anything, etc. So it’s not surprising….but it’s surprising.

45 minutes ago, hutchids said:

I wanted Freeze as coach a couple years ago. I'd be very pleased if this is true. If he can get Ole Miss to major bowls and consistently put up pretty good teams at Liberty, he should have a shot at greatness here. And I know, personal baggage. For the record, I don't care about his personal life. Just avoid NCAA violations, which should be easy with NIL, and win.

He went 5-7 in his last season at Ole Miss. He lost by 3 touchdowns to Vanderbilt. He lost by 40 points to New Mexico State today.

7 minutes ago, AUDub said:

He DMd a sexual assault victim. He sought to flex on her. 

You people are hardly human, much less men. 

It’s pretty bizarre. Weird crowd on these boards. Not what you’re seeing elsewhere. Seems like most Auburn fans realize what a creep this guy is and are railing against it. Thankfully.

1 hour ago, AU-24 said:

Didn’t like the way we treated Alan Greene and Brian Harsin? What about the way Alan Greene and Bryan Harsin treated Auburn? Sorry Charles you have no credibility here!
 

As far as how the national media treat Auburn, what do you expect? They hate us. We do crazy things like still crown a homecoming queen, in the middle of this gender neutral, push craze. The national media hate things like this!

Make the decisions that are best for Auburn, let the mass national media, influenced by BSPN and Al.com bammers, say and print what they’re going to say and just do what’s best for Auburn! BSPN is owned by Disney, hey Charles, how are things working out for Disney? It seems like, finally Auburn is doing what is best for Auburn and a drunken Barkley has a problem with it?

Get a clue bird and War Eagle!

You sound like somebody that probably watches too much Fox News. Nobody gives a s*** if you crown a homecoming queen for whatever reason. I’m sure there is some nut somewhere that is upset about it and whatever entertainment you like to be fed and believe as news took the most extreme example and ran with it to get people such as yourself fired up. Works everytime. It’s just not based in reality. It’s way overblown. 
 

I’m no fan of Harsin. Chuck is right about Harsin, though. “Auburn” never did get behind the guy. Even with full support do I think Harsin was the guy for the job? I don’t think so. That’s not a reason to launch baseless personal attacks on someone and their family. That is a low down way to go about things. He was never going to come back from that.

5 minutes ago, NWALA Tiger said:

Question for the board. If Kiffin wants  Jimbo type contract . Say 10 yrs at 10 million a year.. All $ guaranteed... Should we do it?    I have my doubts

Hell no.

1 minute ago, Mikey said:

At this point, let Harsin have another year. In the meantime, be working on a short list of replacements should AU do the expected and finish 4-8 or 5-7 in 2022.

I see. I think you give him at least to the end of the 2023 season and no further than end of 2024 if they are clearly not headed in a positive direction/there has not been significant improvement. It will take a little time. I'm not a fan of letting him go after the 2022 season unless he loses the locker room like Chizik did in 2012. I believe he's going to make the changes necessary in recruiting to right the ship but we'll see.

37 minutes ago, Mikey said:

Harsin dropped past average and moved down into a losing season. Most would think that's heading in the wrong direction.

Three new head coaches were hired in the SEC last season. Tennessee hired a new coach. They went from 3-7 to 7-6. South Carolina hired a new coach They went from 2-8 to 7-6. Auburn hired a new coach. AU went from 6-5 to 6-7. Two of these teams headed in the right direction. One headed in the wrong direction. You "give him eight years" folks need to look and see whose team got worse.

So, what is your solution?

20 minutes ago, TigerHorn said:

If you want to NOT have a program at all, this is a GREAT way to not have a program. You won't have to worry about what coach won't touch AU any more, because no megadonor would touch AU any more, and without them, there are NO coach's salaries & buyouts, state of the art new facilities, or NIL. Or program. NAIA here we come......recruit off the intramural fields. 

There are a lot of things that matter more than football and integrity is at the top of the list.

5 minutes ago, TeamZero77 said:

With this Auburn/Harsin fiasco on every sports channel, sports radio, sites, etc, you would think Harsin would be in Auburn fighting to keep his job and trying to show everyone why he should still be the coach. Instead, he stayed tucked away on a Mexican vacation during all of this stuff. 

That is VERY telling because he told ESPN and Chris Low thursday night that he is the right man and will fight for his job and still has the right vision for our program. Then why in the hell wasn't he here fighting?? Why wasn't he joining the 24 fans that protested at Toomers Corner for him to keep his job? 

Him staying on vacation in Mexico, rather than being at Auburn trying to keep his job, showed me everything I needed to know. The decision was made and he knows he won't be Auburn's coach after tomorrow. 

Harsin also has Russ Campbell representing him out of Birmingham. Russ represented Bobby Petrino in the past and he is good at what he does. 

 

Probably because he’s got a set of hangers and refuses to be pushed around by some broke back boosters (or anybody else for that matter) when he knows who he is and knows what he has and hasn’t done.

23 minutes ago, autiger88 said:

How? How? How? After all this do you not have a wait and see approach?🤷

I’m trying but it’s difficult for me to believe that anything would change after decades of the same crap. Old people who are set in their ways rarely change. The ones who also crave power even less so. I’ve not seen many of those people change their ways. 

I’ll admit that my post was dumb as hell, though. The way I framed my point at least.

13 minutes ago, AuCivilEng1 said:

We had that mentality that we play besides Alabama and Georgia?

I’m assuming that you meant to say “Who had that mentality that we play besides Alabama and Georgia?”

If that is correct then you’ve proved my point exactly.

Auburn should add these to the creed:

“I believe in dragging a man and his family through the mud with lies if it means we can satisfy the cries of the armchair QBs of our fanbase.”

AND

”I believe in ass kissing”

Never mind that ass kissing is weak, fraudulent behavior. That’s who we want as our head football coach! Go get ‘em coach!

27 minutes ago, AuCivilEng1 said:

Yea I just don’t see what the guy has done to deserve such love. I really don’t care if he’s out there kissing babies. But he’s done some real damage to the program in the last 14 months. People keep throwing around, “we need a culture change”. Why? What was so bad about our culture. We had a couple of players who had attitudes, but for the most part, Auburn hung right there with some of the best teams in the nation. What we needed was someone who could run an offense, develop QB’s, and recruit offensive linemen. You fix those 3 things and you fix Auburn football. Now the next guy has to do even more work.

We did need a culture change. Gus did not have or instill a cut throat, “go rip somebody’s f*****g head off” mentality. Which is needed when you’re going up against the competition that Auburn is. There was absolutely no killer instinct.

Is Auburn really about to get rid of Harsin without cause? This has the potential to be the equivalent of the “death penalty” for this program. 

For those saying it isn’t PTB this time…please give us any reason why we should believe you because there is NOTHING out there that would point to them not being the reason.
 

The same guys who have pulled the strings for decades and ran a failed coup just a year ago are no longer? The guys who were angry that they had no say in the hiring of Harsin are suddenly fine after a losing season?

The same guys who crave power more than anything because they’ve got so much money it doesn’t bring them anymore happiness…don’t crave power anymore?

This is insanity. Somebody please make some sense. I don’t want likes, dislikes, trophies. Somebody please just make some damn sense of it.

1 hour ago, AUght2win said:

Listen, toughness does not work without true care at the root of it. I also had a tough, dog-cusser of a coach in high school. But he was actually my favorite coach because he made it clear to me he believed in me and wanted me to succeed.

I never felt like I was just a tool for his self-glorification. You look at a guy like Urban Meyer. That's self-glorification incarnate. He doesn't care about his players. Everything he puts them through are for HIS own benefit. So HE can win. That makes it harder as a player to go through, because you aren't sure if you're valued, or just a means to an end. 

Clearly some of the kids feel like that's what Harsin is doing. They feel like he is a great coach, but sucks at people. That he doesn't care. Idk if that's true, but it is true Harsin has failed to communicate properly if that isn't the case. It should never be hard to decipher whether a coach truly cares for his young men as individuals.

You guys mock me for saying the lack of communication with parents doesn't matter. It doesn't, if you don't care about your guys. It doesn't, if you're a professional in the NFL. But it does, if you want your guys to go through incredible adversity at your behest.

So, you're choosing to listen to 3 voices and ignore the 20+ that have said the opposite? Seems like you're just believing what you WANT to believe if that's the case.

Just now, AUght2win said:

Problem now is that future recruiting may be untenable after the IG live and player comments on social media. Even if he is totally innocent.

Wildest thing I've ever seen. 

Hope everybody is good and happy that wanted him gone. Auburn can now go right out there and bring in a true winner of a coach that will be fine with being micromanaged by a group of filthy rich idiots with more money than brains. Said coach will be a recruiting wizard and have Auburn competing for a National Championship in 2 years. 

This is all sarcasm of course. I'm really beginning to loathe a portion of our fanbase.

If it's in print or even just posted people will believe it. It's incredible in the worst way possible. The same people who will trash a journalist for going against the narrative they subscribe to are the same folks who will take a rumor from the least credible source as the gospel as long as it reinforces what they WANT to believe. Regardless if it's right or not. It's happening at unprecedented levels. Pretty scary, honestly. Some of y'all really need to check yourselves.

9 minutes ago, Tigerbelle said:

I know exactly what Smoke Monday is saying and what he means about kids from a rough background.  Harsin has no clue about those kids, and he will never be successful in the SEC because of it. 

There hasn't been a "culture change" there has been an implosion. You cannot turn things around in the way this has been done. 

Oh, really? So disregard what most players are saying for what 3 players are saying? Harsin is human. I'm sure there is room for him to grow in regards to relating better to players. 3x the players are saying that Harsin is a good guy and a great coach. Have you read Chandler Wootens defense of Harsin? I recommend checking it out.

No coach is going to come within a 100 miles of Auburn if we allow him to be ousted by boosters who's craving for power cannot be satiated. And they never should. This is a joke.

7 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

Last I heard was today but you probably have better info than I do. I'm absolutely nobody when it comes to recruiting info. 

I definitely do not. Ha! Let’s hope there is something to what you heard.

1 minute ago, McLoofus said:

Word is M'ba is ours. Citizen is looking good. I know less than anyone about the other two. 

Citizen delaying until February as was speculated or we talking looking good for today?

3 minutes ago, Mikey said:

No crow to be cooked up yet. All who signed were expected to sign, which is good. Whether there are any big surprises out there remains to be seen.

Wrong. The coaching staff is killing it. They’ve been here less than a year and have been able to recruit face to face since only July. They’re currently sitting on a top 20 class that is on the verge of top 15 with more to come in February.

You mean where the program was. Not is. We've moved on from that regime.  Plenty encouraging signs right now. OL isn't one of them (at this moment) but other than that I can't really find anything to not feel positive about. To your point, everybody is given an equal shot and there are no guarantees that just because you started this past year you are going to start next. Everyday is open competition for a starting spot and you've got to continue to work and get better everyday. Pretty refreshing.

Good luck to Malik, though. That's awesome.

Anybody still feeling confident on Clemons? I just have a hard time believing he's going to Michigan on a whim...

5 minutes ago, abw0004 said:

A lot of you are showing your true colors on this thread.  Since Bo stepped on campus he has been all-Auburn.  He grew up going to the games.  He has known nothing but Auburn.  This is not an easy decision to make, just like it wasn't for Worm.  If you actually attended games you would see away from the cameras on the sidelines he wanted nothing but the best for his school.  He gave it everything he had every time he set foot on that field.

If he wants to do everything he possibly can to have a chance at the NFL, he needs to transfer.  Every single season he has had to run for his life.  Zero help from the offensive line.  It will be the same way next year.  Same thing with Worm and Tank.  That is probably one of the top reasons they are leaving.  Their talent can't shine through with bad offensive line play.  

Bo Nix doesn't owe us anything else.  And so what if he wants to play a season under his father at the collegiate level?  Who wouldn't want to be with their dad?  That is his family.  Why are so many of you acting like he owes you something when you won't even show up for a football game yourselves?

Some of y’all need to read this over and over until you finally get that breakthrough in your pea sized brains that you so desperately need.