TripleDegreeTiger
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On 5/5/2024 at 1:06 PM, Auburn93 said:
They are going to dominate the league this year. They just signed all the top players. Where are they getting the NIL?
They have a well established NIL collective that has been around for over a decade.
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In before closed!
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10 hours ago, aubaseball said:
Good one. I’ll have to remember that one. Who’s the troll? Sounds like I got a secret admirer
Not referring to you btw, in case you thought that.
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4 hours ago, aubaseball said:
It’s just a guess, but I’m not sure that you understand how revenue works. Auburn gets a certain amount of money no matter how good or bad they are. It makes up the majority of revenue coming into the athletic department. Throw in the fact that Auburn is middle of the pack in the SEC in terms of revenue, Auburn is competing on par with all sports (generally). Some years maybe worse but some maybe better.
He's trolling. Not getting the type of reactions he wants out of the Political forums and is hunting elsewhere.
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3 hours ago, Mikey said:
If it came down to butting heads with Oklahoma over NIL money, we lose in any case. They have oil wells. Those who insisted that AU "would be ok" weren't thinking of oil wells and so forth. This is a battle we are doomed to lose from the get-go. Well have to find another way.
Now, how much NIL money did Broome get? Chaney? Maddie Penta? How does anybody know this other than the board? These payments are not a matter of public record.
Hell, OU is also a Law and Medical school to go along with the oil wells.
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2 hours ago, Mikey said:
The "Official Site of Auburn Athletics" has been down since yesterday. Something about security agreement expired. Anybody know anything about this? It's been my go to place for box scores, schedules and so forth for years. All tidbits of information, wild guesses or even knowledgeable replies appreciated.
We've shut down everything but the golf team. It is being reworked.
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2 hours ago, TigerOne said:
In reality it’s which ones have porn star potential.
These girls are going out and getting followers. They are using these followers to build relationships/get noticed and receive deals from Doordash, HR Block, Cheetos, Levi's, Amazon and the list goes on. Some have their own products and businesses that they have started. This is how gymnast got paid long before NIL(same for track and field).
Olivia Dunn started her own NIL fund for LSU women's athletes.
They are not sitting around and waiting on their universities NIL collective to get them deals. Probably why they are national champions and Olympic hopefuls/team, members.
And yes, in American marketing sex sells.
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2 hours ago, aubaseball said:
I stopped looking after scrolling through about three pages of undisclosed. That was very informative. And the first girl, she is on every commercial for whatever clothesline that she is promoting. Don’t even think she is the best gymnasts on their team. Point being, she is attractive and happens to be a gymnast.
just curious, if you’re so hung up on Auburn being the best in every sport that they participate in, are you donating anything substantial to OTV?
Here is how that list is generated and why you see undisclosed.
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/about-on3-nil-valuation-per-post-value/
QuoteFor each athlete, the On3 NIL Valuation algorithm takes into account four primary factors: Roster Value Performance, Influence, Exposure and Deal Data to create their individual Roster Value and NIL, which together combine to create the athlete’s On3 NIL Valuation.
- Performance: Performance is determined by how the athlete performs on the field. Big games against key opponents, becoming nationally ranked and winning national awards will have the most impact on an athlete’s valuation. Participation in college sports is weighted heavier in most cases than those that participate at the high school level.
- Influence: Influence is determined by the athlete’s own social media authority. Social media followers, reach and engagement are the primary factors that determine influence.
- Exposure: Exposure is determined by several factors including whether the athlete is in high school or college, which school the athlete attends and their position. Athletes that attend universities with a larger fan base and media attention are likely to see a positive impact on valuation. Athletes who play a position with higher visibility (ie. quarterback vs. center) are likely to see a higher valuation.
- Deal Data: On3 collects and verifies athlete deal data from numerous sources, including athletes, coaches, collectives, agents, and player representatives as the foundation of Roster Value.
Check out number of LSU and Florida gymnast that have over 100k in followers and their Valuation rankings vs those of Auburn's.
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Happy for Bo!
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7 hours ago, AURex said:
Thanks for the graphic, aubaseball. So, most of the money goes to Athletic Dept staff and paying off previous coaches, paying current coaches, and facilities. NOT recruiting, player support, actual competition, etc.
And fact is, Auburn's NIL for most sports is pitiful. I was looking today at NIL for gymnasts. Almost all of the gymnasts at LSU, Utah, Florida, Oklahoma are receiving decent NIL. Auburn? Nope. And look at the teams that were competing for the national championship. LSU, Utah, Florida and Cal. Oklahoma is usually in that mix.
Swimming and Diving? Auburn once was a national powerhouse. Now?
WBB? Auburn used to have a good team. Now?
Track & Field? Harvey, where are you?
Yes, college athletics has changed with NIL and easy transfers. But that applies to ALL universities, ALL of our competitors.
I haven't seen official numbers, but just from the posts on this board and other Auburn fan sites, it seems like Auburn NIL is mostly going to football and some but less to Basketball. As for other sports .... ???
We got traditional rivals Bama and UGA, incoming Texas and Oklahoma, and A&M -- all with truckloads of primary athletic funding and bank loads of NIL. Tennessee and Florida outspending Auburn by a lot.
But it is not all about money. CBP has done a fantastic job without the kind of NIL that other schools have. And to some extent, NIL follows success. But Ole Miss has built an excellent FB team with less resources than Auburn has. Tennessee has made a comeback. Missouri is now competitive. Arkansas will be a nightmare with Calipari.
As I said in my OP, I'm just tired of Auburn being middle to bottom of the SEC in most sports (yes, a couple of exceptions). With all the money flowing into Auburn athletics (among the top in the nation), I expect more. Not just want more.
Yes, I expect MORE!
Estimated NIL numbers, not 100 percent accurate as NIL is private and does not have to report publicly. Website provides their methods.
Yes, in the Power 5 90% of the NIL money goes to Football and basketball. So Auburn spends like the rest.
Not sure about the rest (though all those gymnastic teams except LSU are blue bloods with multiple NC's before NIL), but it helps your NIL when Olivia Dunn uses her partnerships with companies to specifically fund her teammates and get them deals. She does this for all women athletes at LSU. Angel Reese is working with her fund also.
There is also this about gymnast:
QuoteYear one data from INFLCR, the content platform hundreds of universities utilize to manage their student-athlete NIL activity, shows that women’s gymnastics had the third-most reported NIL transactions of any sport amongst Power Five conference schools. That falls short of only football and men’s basketball. Gymnastics tops that same list amongst exclusively women’s sports, and also pulls in a massive average transaction value of over $7,000. For comparison, football’s average is just under $3,400.
“I told our administration and anyone who would listen over the last few years as NIL opened up that gymnasts are going to be active in this space,” said Auburn head coach Jeff Graba. “Gymnasts are active on social media, they know how to market themselves, and they’re savvy in that situation. They’re not waiting for people to come to them, they’re going out and getting things done. That’s the mentality and gymnastics mindset.”
https://collegegymnews.com/2022/08/10/nil-and-gymnastics-one-year-later/
With the NIL, has to do with the leaders. Ole Miss and Arkansas are both considered some of the best led and most ambitious organizations atm by some. Reach out to OTV, sure they can answer your questions.
You do know that Men's swimming and Diving finished ranked 9th in the nation? The women 19th I think.
And no it isn't all about money. It is also about putting the right person, in the right place, at the right time.
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2 hours ago, AURex said:
I'll reiterate that I am really tired of Auburn mediocrity. Auburn pulls in revenue from sports that is in the top few schools nationally. Auburn has LOTS of money for athletics.
Where does that money go?
Football? Where are the wins?
Basketball? NCAA nuthin in recent years. Women's BB? Why ask?
Baseball -- um, is the team still alive?
Gymnastics -- Suni please come home because ..... we got nuthin'
Equestrian -- Great in SEC but then? .... zip
Track & Field, wrestling, swimming & diving, soccer, etc ????
It's not just Directors Cup, it is the majority of Auburn sports. Auburn is in the bottom of the SEC in most sports. Auburn competes with Vandy! for the SEC Bottom Cup.
Of course, most fans don't care, because most fans are football with some mens basketball. As long as Auburn FB has a 500+ season and Auburn BB is pretty good in the SEC, welp, that swems to be good enough for most Auburn fans.
As for us here in AUF, well, plenty seem to be happy and plenty not so much.
You can facepalm me all you want. It isn't going to change the fact that many of the universities that Auburn competes directly against have more money than Auburn for athletics right now.
It also isn't going to change the fact that as a fan I enjoy having consistent players to root for on my teams. The NIL/Transfer portal have now made that unstable vs the pro sports. It is not enjoyable to me.
I also believe that all student athletes regardless of sport should receive full tuition, books/supplies, university housing, utilities, and dining. If you wear the Orange and Blue you should be able to leave with a degree debt free. $192 million and only 10% goes to Athletic Student Aid.
So where does the money go?
https://knightnewhousedata.org/fbs/sec/auburn-university
Edit: If you go to the website you can hover for more details. The following is for other expenses:
QuoteExpenses related to the following categories: Sports equipment, uniforms and supplies, fundraising, marketing and promotion, sports camps, spirit groups, direct overhead and administrative expenses, indirect institutional support, membership and dues, student-athlete meals, and, other operating expenses.
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On 4/5/2024 at 12:38 PM, ertrader said:
Just to attach some numbers to mediocrity and nuthin
Last year Auburn finished 36th in the Directors Cup (a more or less overall ranking of a school's athletic teams performances)
That was 10th in the SEC (Texas and Oklahoma finished higher than us too if you are looking to the future)
2 Texas
5 Florida
6 Tennessee
7 Georgia
9 LSU
12 Alabama
13 Arkansas
18 Kentucky
23 Oklahoma
24 Texas A&M
33 South Carolina
36 Auburn
39 Ole Miss
50 Missouri
56 Vanderbilt
57 Mississippi State
I wouldn't worry about the Directors Cup that much. There is a reason that Stanford has won it something like 26 out of the last 28 years. That is because they have 36 NCAA sponsored teams that can be counted in the scoring.
Scoring Breakdown:
https://nacda.com/sports/2018/7/17/directorscup-nacda-directorscup-scoring-html.aspx
There are SEC schools with sports we don't have. UK's Men's soccer went to the second round of the NCAA's. UF's women's lacrosse is currently 14 and 2. Those are points Auburn doesn't have access to. We are missing sports that other universities have. Auburn relies on the main sports (football/basketball/baseball).
Then if you look at it through revenue generation, Auburn is just outside the top 10 at 11, but 7 of our direct opponents are in the top 10. This in the age of NIL and facilities.
This is how Stanford won last years Cup (notice the sports they could of got points in but didn't need):
https://nacda.com/news/2023/6/28/directorscup-stanford-captures-learfield-directors-cup.aspx
QuoteCLEVELAND – The Stanford Cardinal secured its 26th overall LEARFIELD Directors' Cup back on June 13 and finished 2022-23 with 1412.00 total points after the College World Series.
Stanford claimed three national titles – men's gymnastics, women's rowing and women's water polo - while also tallying five top-3 finishes (women's swimming and diving, women's golf, softball, women's tennis, and men's outdoor track and field). Overall, Stanford scored in 3 of 4 countable sports, along with 15 additional total sports. The following scores were removed – women's cross country and soccer, women's gymnastics, men's indoor track and field, wrestling, women's outdoor track and field, and fencing - due to the maximum additional sports to be counted is 15.I would like to see Auburn do well in all athletics, but I think the NIL/transfer portal is going to push fans and alumni away from donations. I know I've found myself drifting to more interest in Dallas professional teams over Auburn since the NIL. Least I know who is coming and going at the end of seasons vs college.
So far the OP goes. For me at least the combination of the NIL and the transfer portal make me not care as much about Auburn athletics. I'd rather my money go to someone like Miro Heiskanen for the Stars through 2028 vs a Aden Holloway for 1 year at Auburn.
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I remember seeing the Allman Brother's Band at Auburn for homecoming one year. Great band, RIP.
Lol, then I think we went from the show to the Super Club for Mel and the Party Hats...... thank you!
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Hoe Over The Top by Daniel Moore.
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Thinking this will be a fun show next week, not often you get to see some of the classic New Wave artists..... Subtle innuendos follow:
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On 4/11/2024 at 7:22 PM, E'Town4Bama said:
Is this what you live for?
You obviously don't know many Alabama fans.
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1990. Colorado vs Missouri. The 5th down game. Colorado has a NC cause of it.
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I use these to run the internet through my place. Go from the router to the wall and then to whatever room you want. I use it to run a Firestick and my work laptop dock in another room. Get better speed and connectivity than with the Wifi.
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On 12/10/2022 at 10:32 AM, banditmwp said:
Pitfall is the first I remember actually playing, Atari 2600
I loved Pitfall.
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On 11/25/2021 at 9:59 PM, bigbird said:
Centipede
Pac-Man
Donkey Kong
Pole position
Defender
But did you play them while listening to Buckner and Garcia!
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We lost another legend, RIP Jeff Back.
http://www.jeffbeck.com/1944-2023/?utm_campaign=products&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=jeffbeck.com
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Who is the best Auburn fb coach in history ?
in AU Football Forum
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The 94 UF game is one of the best road games I ever went to.