Auburn now the 4Th choice with bettors to win the BCS

[Droxside 0]

As with everything it is perception, but we are now the 4TH choice with people putting money on it...

(1)Oregon...+175

(2)Alabama...+300

(3)Boise St...+450

(4)Auburn...+500

We really are getting no respect, even in the money world.

Here is the source...

http://thegreek.com/sports/home.asp

[Legacy Tiger1345162832 0]

.... This just shows you how stupid society is. 

[Jwalker9 0]

Last week I read somewhere, and then they announced it on tv during the game, that Auburn had the lowest chance of going undefeated with something like 8%.  Since we beat ole miss, that number has had to change.  Does anyone know what they currently have us at?  I'd love to know, so that when we run the table we can wave it at the haters!

[guerra aguila 0]

We win out... we go. Its that simple.

Im going to repeat this over and over until somebody get its 

What happens now... doesnt matter.

[wellsheit 0]

The reason we aren't getting any love is because we have to play a red-hot georgia team and then the defending SEC and National Champs at their place.  I believe we can win both games, but until we do, be prepared to be picked low.  We win both of those games, we'll be dancin.

[Rickys Rants 0]

The reason we aren't getting any love is because we have to play a red-hot georgia team and then the defending SEC and National Champs at their place.  I believe we can win both games, but until we do, be prepared to be picked low.  We win both of those games, we'll be dancin.

DITTO - our road to the NC is MUCH tougher than most teams.  UAT would be the only team with a tougher road since they still have to play LSWhoo and AU.

[stealthyfan 94]

. . . you beat the odds, one game at a time . . .

[Ed_ 3]

The reason we aren't getting any love is because we have to play a red-hot georgia team and then the defending SEC and National Champs at their place.  I believe we can win both games, but until we do, be prepared to be picked low.  We win both of those games, we'll be dancin.

Everyone should also take into consideration that when vegas assesses odds they look at PRIOR track records of a team.  Now as much as I'd like to say that we've been the model of consistency over the years the unfortunate reality is that with the exception of 2004 we have always shot ourselves in the foot when we were in this position.  At least that's been the case since after Bowden's first year.

The only way we are going to earn the respect that everyone is clamoring for is to erase the perception that we will always stumble before reaching the finish line and this year should go a long way towards achieving that goal.

[Rednilla 5,090]

The reason we aren't getting any love is because we have to play a red-hot georgia team and then the defending SEC and National Champs at their place.  I believe we can win both games, but until we do, be prepared to be picked low.  We win both of those games, we'll be dancin.

Everyone should also take into consideration that when vegas assesses odds they look at PRIOR track records of a team.  Now as much as I'd like to say that we've been the model of consistency over the years the unfortunate reality is that with the exception of 2004 we have always shot ourselves in the foot when we were in this position.  At least that's been the case since after Bowden's first year.

The only way we are going to earn the respect that everyone is clamoring for is to erase the perception that we will always stumble before reaching the finish line and this year should go a long way towards achieving that goal.

...How many teams can you name who have gone undefeated twice since 93? Boise has done it three out of the last four years, and is poised to make it four out of five. Mighty USC only went undefeated in 04, Texas in 05, Florida in 08, Bama in 09. Nebraska did it twice in 95 and 97, but if memory serves me, they are the only other team in major division I college football to have gone undefeated twice over that same time span.

Moral of the story? EVERYBODY shoots themselves in the foot. It's just what happens. You can use that as an excuse all you want to, but name for me just ONE other team from a major conference to go undefeated just once and not get a chance at the national championship...and Michigan from 97 doesn't count, because they split it with Nebraska.

[87aubie 0]

name for me just ONE other team from a major conference to go undefeated just once and not get a chance at the national championship...and Michigan from 97 doesn't count, because they split it with Nebraska.

Auburn, 2004

[Rednilla 5,090]

name for me just ONE other team from a major conference to go undefeated just once and not get a chance at the national championship...and Michigan from 97 doesn't count, because they split it with Nebraska.

Auburn, 2004

[Ed_ 3]

Yes we got ****ed over in 2004. No argument from me there.  But why were we in a position to get messed over?  Because we were a preseason favorite in 2003 and and then got our butts handed to us in games we should have won.  So we started out 2004 way lower than we should have.

And that is more my point.  Yes other teams shoot themselves in the foot but we have managed to do it in a truly spectacular fashion against teams we should have had no reason losing to over the years. It seems like every time voters would give us credit we would make them look like idiots so they are shying away from putting themselves in the same position.  It is simple human nature.  Do I agree with it?  No.  Do I think its right?  Hell no! But it is the way it is now it is on us to reverse that trend.

Flame me if you want but this is how I see it.  

[Rednilla 5,090]

Yes we got ****ed over in 2004. No argument from me there.  But why were we in a position to get messed over?  Because we were a preseason favorite in 2003 and and then got our butts handed to us in games we should have won.  So we started out 2004 way lower than we should have.

And that is more my point.  Yes other teams shoot themselves in the foot but we have managed to do it in a truly spectacular fashion against teams we should have had no reason losing to over the years. It seems like every time voters would give us credit we would make them look like idiots so they are shying away from putting themselves in the same position.  It is simple human nature.  Do I agree with it?  No.  Do I think its right?  Hell no! But it is the way it is now it is on us to reverse that trend.

Flame me if you want but this is how I see it.  

I didn't mean it as a flame, but as a counterpoint. You make an excellent point, and it's probably at least somewhat correct; I'm simply explaining why I think that is incredibly hypocritical, not in any way attacking you.

I don't think that is the reason, however, not with 2004 being fresher in the minds of media than 2003. I think, if anything, it has more to do with their desire to move towards a playoff. The SEC has probably been the loudest in opposition to such, and having an undefeated champion left out twice in seven years, especially if it is the same undefeated champion, will cause a massive outcry from the most powerful fan bases (the SEC) in the country.

[Ed_ 3]

name for me just ONE other team from a major conference to go undefeated just once and not get a chance at the national championship...and Michigan from 97 doesn't count, because they split it with Nebraska.

Auburn, 2004

97 was pre BCS so I wouldn't even claim it since there wasn't an actual NCG but if you want to say teams that went undefeated and didn't get an NC you have Penn St and Ohio St in '68, or Texas and Penn St in '69.  

Now how about another question...how many times since we actually played a National Championship game have there been multiple undefeated teams from AQ teams??? Once...2004.  Again, it sucks but with three undefeateds one team had to get left out based on our messed up beauty contest system and that team was us.  Yes it was messed up, yes we should have played instead of Oklahoma but Oklahoma had played more consistently than us over the prior years so human nature would have the voter take the less risky pick and go with choklahoma to cover the butts.

[87aubie 0]

JMO, but I think way too much is being made of all this.  The BCS always seems to shake itself out, and it will again this year I believe.  The talking heads have a responsibility to sell advertising and keep up the ratings.  Debates and arguments are good for ratings.  I'd be willing to bet that if you cornered all these guys and asked them "off the record" what they really thought, you'd find that AU and (probably) Oregon would be clearly identified as the top two teams with air tight arguments for being in the BCS.  Boise would be dismissed almost immediately.

[Ed_ 3]

Yes we got ****ed over in 2004. No argument from me there.  But why were we in a position to get messed over?  Because we were a preseason favorite in 2003 and and then got our butts handed to us in games we should have won.  So we started out 2004 way lower than we should have.

And that is more my point.  Yes other teams shoot themselves in the foot but we have managed to do it in a truly spectacular fashion against teams we should have had no reason losing to over the years. It seems like every time voters would give us credit we would make them look like idiots so they are shying away from putting themselves in the same position.  It is simple human nature.  Do I agree with it?  No.  Do I think its right?  Hell no! But it is the way it is now it is on us to reverse that trend.

Flame me if you want but this is how I see it.  

I didn't mean it as a flame, but as a counterpoint. You make an excellent point, and it's probably at least somewhat correct; I'm simply explaining why I think that is incredibly hypocritical, not in any way attacking you.

I don't think that is the reason, however, not with 2004 being fresher in the minds of media than 2003. I think, if anything, it has more to do with their desire to move towards a playoff. The SEC has probably been the loudest in opposition to such, and having an undefeated champion left out twice in seven years, especially if it is the same undefeated champion, will cause a massive outcry from the most powerful fan bases (the SEC) in the country.

Sorry, the flame comment wasn't aimed specifically at you.  I just know that what I said isn't the most popular view with some AU fans and I fully expected someone to jump me for it as large as this board has gotten.

[Ed_ 3]

Yes we got ****ed over in 2004. No argument from me there.  But why were we in a position to get messed over?  Because we were a preseason favorite in 2003 and and then got our butts handed to us in games we should have won.  So we started out 2004 way lower than we should have.

And that is more my point.  Yes other teams shoot themselves in the foot but we have managed to do it in a truly spectacular fashion against teams we should have had no reason losing to over the years. It seems like every time voters would give us credit we would make them look like idiots so they are shying away from putting themselves in the same position.  It is simple human nature.  Do I agree with it?  No.  Do I think its right?  Hell no! But it is the way it is now it is on us to reverse that trend.

Flame me if you want but this is how I see it.  

I didn't mean it as a flame, but as a counterpoint. You make an excellent point, and it's probably at least somewhat correct; I'm simply explaining why I think that is incredibly hypocritical, not in any way attacking you.

I don't think that is the reason, however, not with 2004 being fresher in the minds of media than 2003. I think, if anything, it has more to do with their desire to move towards a playoff. The SEC has probably been the loudest in opposition to such, and having an undefeated champion left out twice in seven years, especially if it is the same undefeated champion, will cause a massive outcry from the most powerful fan bases (the SEC) in the country.

I agree that a desire to move towards a playoff is playing a factor due to the Utah's and BSU's of the country getting left out of the NCG the last few years but let me ask you this;  if we hadn't had our 2008 meltdown when we were a preseason favorite to win the west are we #1 right now instead of Oregon?  Of course that is completely hypothetical since Tubbs would probably still be here if we hadn't had that meltdown. 

[Junebug 0]

Hello everyone this is my first post so I'll start by saying War Eagle!! Now I agree with those who have posted that the polls and other opinions don't matter right now. If we can win out then we can not be denied. It is in our hands. But just a little food for thought, Do you remember when we would have been very happy with a 9 win season this year? Let's just enjoy the ride!!!

[AuburnSpider 2]

Its very simple, last years Nat'l Champion is our biggest rival. We play them them the last game of the year, at their place.  duh