Literal Interpretation....

[BigBlueWDE 1,130]

I have to admit, if Cecil told the recruiters that it was going to "take more than a scholarship" - that doesn't have to be interpreted as cash money. That could mean proximity to home, a senior laden OL, better WRs and RBs around him, a better incoming class, a chance to win a championship, etc. etc. any number of things. The writer of the article chose to interpret it as cash money.

Cam's is a little harder to explain, but Cecil and wife have been at pretty much every single Auburn game this year. It could have literally been "the money was too much" (for my mom and dad to come see me all the time). That's a much, much, much longer drive every weekend for that family, with associated car, gas, hotel costs. Cam has a history of not using the best words to describe something simple ("Heisman, you can throw that out of the window"..."my heart is still in Florida", etc. etc.)

Just trying to let a little bit of optimism shine through (maybe grasping at straws too)

[BigBlueWDE 1,130]

BTW, if I was a MSU recruiter I would have taken both of those statements the wrong way myself (probably), especially considering that I would have lost my #1 recruit.

[imsoauburn 0]

Good points.

[wareagle13 88]

Yeah, i agree with the first part completely, as for Cam's comment, i just don't know also where is the recording of this conversation? Seriously who has a tape recorder attached to their phone for instances just like this? just curious

[FormerlySec38Row34 56]

Ok Ok Ok, so your dad just took $200k from another school, so you call the other school involved and tell them that you just committed a MAJOR NCAA infraction.

How plausible is this scenario?

[3rdgen 2]

Ok Ok Ok, so your dad just took $200k from another school, so you call the other school involved and tell them that you just committed a MAJOR NCAA infraction.

How plausible is this scenario?

This nobody could be that stupid.

[AUpocalypse 10]

I have to admit, if Cecil told the recruiters that it was going to "take more than a scholarship" - that doesn't have to be interpreted as cash money. That could mean proximity to home, a senior laden OL, better WRs and RBs around him, a better incoming class, a chance to win a championship, etc. etc. any number of things. The writer of the article chose to interpret it as cash money.

This was my initial reaction too.

"It's going to take more than a scholarship... An act of God wouldn't get my son onboard this bell ringing chuckwagon!"

When are repeated conversations word for word? How often are they embellished? No proof, no telling.

[Droxside 0]

They are going to have to do more than just make accusations. There is no way you can simply take their word on this considering Cam coming to Auburn and costing them the best player they would have ever had. They may end up being the one's in trouble for lying or more. Has anyone heard anything about actual tapes of conversations or proof? I haven't. If people can say anything about other schools and recruiting without evidence everyone is in trouble...

[FreeBird 0]

Seriously who has a tape recorder attached to their phone for instances just like this? just curious

Donald Watkins that's who. I said I would never mention his name again.  :banghead: :banghead:

[wareagle13 88]

Seriously who has a tape recorder attached to their phone for instances just like this? just curious

Donald Watkins that's who. I said I would never mention his name again.  :banghead: :banghead:

Sorry about that, that occurred the year i was born so do forgive me for my naivete. Something like that just doesn't come up immediately in my recollection of auburn memories. 

[Bro Johnny Mac 1,287]

Thats what Im saying Bigblue! We think alike,agree with your conclusions.You are spoton.

[gAUlf 1]

Wait am I missing something...is there a tape?

If not why is this even a story

NCAA: Mr. Newton, did you try to recieve money or any other benefits from any school during your son's recruitment

Cecil Newton: No.

NCAA: Mr. Mullen, do you have a recording of said conversations claiming Mr. Newton asked for anything.

Hunch Back of Notre Dame : Huh uh...my super secret recruiter heard it all. He and Mr. Bond know it all. Ain't that right Mr. Bond.

Mr. Bond : well I heard from somebody who heard it from somebody, but yea I heard it from them.

[FreeBird 0]

Sorry about that, that occurred the year i was born so do forgive me for my naivete. Something like that just doesn't come up immediately in my recollection of auburn memories. 

Not a shot at you, sorry if it looked like that. I was born in 59 and started keeping up with AU in the late sixties. I too missed out on a lot of good/bad times from 1968 back.

People may disagree but I will always believe that B'Ham Mayor Richard Arrington was behind this because Coach Dye took AU's home game to Auburn. The uat fans were furious but guess where they play all their games at now. They owe Coach Dye an apology but will never admit to it. Ask your Father, Mother, Aunt or Uncle about it. What made it worse was uat went on to win a MNC.

:beatmullet: :beatmullet: :beatmullet: :beatmullet:

[45Tiger 0]

first let me say I dont believe all this hoopla about a tape but, and this is a big fat hairy but...if Cam did say "the money was too much" it makes more sense in the context of what was going on that simply the offer of money crossed the line in his father's eyes. he would have more than likely been saying something to the effect of all that other stuff was sounding good until you offered a load of cash and that soured him on me going there, as in the offering of money was "too much".

[AUPride4Ever 0]

I am just waking up to these newest revelations and while I agree that someone couldn't be that stupid as to admit a major NCAA infraction, we are talking about a kid. According to all accounts, Cam was very emotional perhaps even upset that his dad chose Auburn over Miss St. I could completely see him saying something like this out of emotion. Many kids don't realize the consequences of their words and actions at that age. I am so disgusted with this whole thing. I just wish, one way or another, someone would come forth with hard evidence to prove or disprove these allegations. If this happened, then we have a long road ahead of us as the Auburn family. If it didn't, then let's silence the critics and move on. 

[Connecticut Tiger 0]

I am just waking up to these newest revelations and while I agree that someone couldn't be that stupid as to admit a major NCAA infraction, we are talking about a kid. According to all accounts, Cam was very emotional perhaps even upset that his dad chose Auburn over Miss St. I could completely see him saying something like this out of emotion. Many kids don't realize the consequences of their words and actions at that age. I am so disgusted with this whole thing. I just wish, one way or another, someone would come forth with hard evidence to prove or disprove these allegations. If this happened, then we have a long road ahead of us as the Auburn family. If it didn't, then let's silence the critics and move on. 

I can even see him mean future money, as in the NFL.  NFL future better at a great Auburn Team or a good MSU.

[AUTiger03 49]

ALL OF THE ABOVE. THE FACT THAT THE ENTIRE CONVERSATION WAS NOT LEAKED IS VERY TELLING

[AUnChas 14]

For a NCAA violation implicating AU, a provable $$ exchange is necessary. Just talking about it may hurt Cam's Heisman chances, but there's nothing against AU. Given AU knew about this since July, and I would have to assume given even a small portion of what has come out, that they did their "due diligence" in flushing this all out before our first game. I'm confident that at least to the ath admin, compliance and coaches they've got a solid grip on this and there's not anything out there at least on the surface that would implicate AU or Cam. I'm even more confident of this since ESPN and NYtimes, SEC, and NCAA ALL knew about many of these details LONG before the stories have come out. So, what these news agencies knew, AU knows or knew back in July.

[aufanatic01 0]

I think there are a ton of ways to interpret the statements, if they were even made.  

I tend to relate a lot of things to monetary value, so I will throw out my interpretation.....

Cam was recruited by MSU, Cam was recruited by Auburn.  Cam decided like most of us that Auburn was the best University for him.  There are reports out there that are fairly consistent that his family is not loaded with money, like most of us in the real world.  There is a monetary value on going to college, even if you are on scholarship (this is fact and from my experiences). During the recruiting process the coaches should be conveying to the prospect and their family the amount of out of pocket money they will need to anticipate.  Include this money, along with travel expenses, family travel expenses, no car (I am pretty sure Cam only has a scooter), and boredom because you are in MS (sorry, just had to throw that in).  You have to consider all of those things as having a monetary value.  Yes, you have these at Auburn, however they are cut exponentially due to distance.  

So yes, it would take more than just a scholarship to attend MSU.  And the money would be hard to turn down.  

And yes, someone would have to give me more than a scholarship to go that crap hole university in mississippi....it would have to be a lot more than 200k.