Stacy Thomas

[Orange and Blue 17211345162833 0]

Weakside DE Stacy Thomas said he would love an offer from Auburn. He said if Auburn offered that they would probably jump to head of his list in front of UF and FSU. Thomas is kinda short for an SEC DE with an impressive offer sheet nonetheless.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Stacy-Thomas-133876

[Wareagletd 0]

Kinda short. About 45-50 pounds too light. Could be moved to OLB. JMO.

[Orange and Blue 17211345162833 0]

He certainly is quick enough to play linebacker looking at his highlights. Not all players have the body-type to to play linebacker. That's why BVG didn't give Owens and Sanders a shot at linebacker during the Spring. BVG might feel the same way about this kid due to his lack of size and that his body isn't made to play linebacker, thus no offer.

[AU64 10,122]

There are probably a 100 kids whose "dream would come true with an AU offer" ...unfortunately,most of them are either too short, too light or too slow.   AU is in elite territory now and can no longer afford to take the "marginal' kids.  

We will be skipping over most of those kids and instead will be bringing in a lot of 4* kids who knew almost nothing about AU until the school started recruiting them....or kids where we are in a sales battle with other nearby SEC schools.   Not sure how I feel about that but seems to be the new reality for us.  

[Orange and Blue 17211345162833 0]

There are probably a 100 kids whose "dream would come true with an AU offer" ...unfortunately,most of them are either too short, too light or too slow.   AU is in elite territory now and can no longer afford to take the "marginal' kids.  

We will be skipping over most of those kids and instead will be bringing in a lot of 4* kids who knew almost nothing about AU until the school started recruiting them....or kids where we are in a sales battle with other nearby SEC schools.   Not sure how I feel about that but seems to be the new reality for us.  

He is a 4* kid with an impressive offer sheet but we have a new DC and he recruits differently for his system than Ted Roof did for his.

[AU64 10,122]

I understand..but 6-1 and 227 is not really a DE size.  He's obviously a good athlete but i wouldn't expect any of the big schools to see him as a DE. 

I expect each coach has a player profile and if the kid does not meet that profile, that's too bad.  RGIII or the Wilson kid from NC State/Wisc would never get a second look from AU these days.  My main point was that wanting to play at AU probably doesn't count for much these days with our current coaching staff.   

[Orange and Blue 17211345162833 0]

I understand..but 6-1 and 227 is not really a DE size.  He's obviously a good athlete but i wouldn't expect any of the big schools to see him as a DE.   

I expect each coach has a player profile and if the kid does not meet that profile, that's too bad.   RGIII or the Wilson kid from NC State/Wisc would never get a second look from AU these days.   My main point was that wanting to play at AU probably doesn't count for much these days with our current coaching staff.   

If you read any of my posts in this thread, you'll see that you and i are on the same page about his size to play DE on the SEC level. Where we separate, is that Auburn's program is not quite at the level you are implying. We are still building to get to where some of the elite programs are in college football despite our 2010 NC.

I just did a discount double check. Are you saying that RW or RGIII are not good enough to play at AU? If you are, you or either blind to having knowledge of college football or have gone off the "deep end." I think the latter.

[Wareagletd 0]

He is listed as the #15 Weakside Defensive End by 247 Sports. He is also listed as an OLB.

http://247sports.com/Player/Stacy-Thomas-18551

[AU64 10,122]

I understand..but 6-1 and 227 is not really a DE size.  He's obviously a good athlete but i wouldn't expect any of the big schools to see him as a DE.   

I expect each coach has a player profile and if the kid does not meet that profile, that's too bad.   RGIII or the Wilson kid from NC State/Wisc would never get a second look from AU these days.   My main point was that wanting to play at AU probably doesn't count for much these days with our current coaching staff.   

If you read any of my posts in this thread, you'll see that you and i are on the same page about his size to play DE on the SEC level. Where we separate, is that Auburn's program is not quite at the level you are implying. We are still building to get to where some of the elite programs are in college football despite our 2010 NC.

I just did a discount double check. Are you saying that RW or RGIII are not good enough to play at AU? If you are, you or either blind to having knowledge of college football or have gone off the "deep end." I think the latter.

I saying that AU coaches would not give them a look because both of them are rather small for big time college QB.    Auburn as for the comment about AU elite...apparently did not make my self clear....just look at our recruiting rating for the past two years....while we might not have reached the consistent results of an elite program on the field, we ae sure have reached the recruiting level of the elite programs.  If you look at the ratings for the past two years, there is not that much diff between any of the top ten and we are in there.

I'm just saying that our DEs will be 6-3 or 6-4 minimum and our future QBs the same size.  Consider that in having such profiles we will overlook some good players but the coaches have already made it clear what they are looking for in future AU signees.

[Orange and Blue 17211345162833 0]

I understand..but 6-1 and 227 is not really a DE size.  He's obviously a good athlete but i wouldn't expect any of the big schools to see him as a DE.   

I expect each coach has a player profile and if the kid does not meet that profile, that's too bad.   RGIII or the Wilson kid from NC State/Wisc would never get a second look from AU these days.   My main point was that wanting to play at AU probably doesn't count for much these days with our current coaching staff.   

If you read any of my posts in this thread, you'll see that you and i are on the same page about his size to play DE on the SEC level. Where we separate, is that Auburn's program is not quite at the level you are implying. We are still building to get to where some of the elite programs are in college football despite our 2010 NC.

I just did a discount double check. Are you saying that RW or RGIII are not good enough to play at AU? If you are, you or either blind to having knowledge of college football or have gone off the "deep end." I think the latter.

I saying that AU coaches would not give them a look because both of them are rather small for big time college QB.    Auburn as for the comment about AU elite...apparently did not make my self clear....just look at our recruiting rating for the past two years....while we might not have reached the consistent results of an elite program on the field, we ae sure have reached the recruiting level of the elite programs.   If you look at the ratings for the past two years, there is not that much diff between any of the top ten and we are in there.

I'm just saying that our DEs will be 6-3 or 6-4 minimum and our future QBs the same size.   Consider that in having such profiles we will overlook some good players but the coaches have already made it clear what they are looking for in future AU signees.

Man you are crazy. RGIII is projected to be the #2 overall pick in the NFL Draft in a few days. Do your research instead of jumping to conclusions. RGIII is not small.

[Wareagletd 0]

RGIII is 6'2" and 223 pounds.

Russell Wilson is 5'11" and 204 pounds.

Andrew Luck is 6'4" and 234 pounds.

Ryan Tannehill is 6'4" and 221 pounds.

These are the projected top 4 QBs in the upcoming draft. As you can see, RW is the only "small" one.

[DyeEraTiger 0]

There are probably a 100 kids whose "dream would come true with an AU offer" ...unfortunately,most of them are either too short, too light or too slow.   AU is in elite territory now and can no longer afford to take the "marginal' kids.  

We will be skipping over most of those kids and instead will be bringing in a lot of 4* kids who knew almost nothing about AU until the school started recruiting them....or kids where we are in a sales battle with other nearby SEC schools.   Not sure how I feel about that but seems to be the new reality for us.  

Our new DC said early on that he does his own evals. I don't think stars have much to do with it, other than it's more likely that the kids we want the most have stars attached due to a services eval.

[Guest jrljr]

Some times it's not the size of the Tiger in the fight, It's the it's the fight inside the Tiger!!!

Would like to see some film.

[Guest jrljr]

Just saw some film. Kid can play. Maybe undersized for DL but seems fast enough for LB.

[tsande07 271]

RGIII is 6'2" and 223 pounds.

Russell Wilson is 5'11" and 204 pounds.

Andrew Luck is 6'4" and 234 pounds.

Ryan Tannehill is 6'4" and 221 pounds.

These are the projected top 4 QBs in the upcoming draft. As you can see, RW is the only "small" one.

Not meaning to criticize, but I'm not sure what projection you're looking at here.  I haven't seen Wilson projected above the mid-round range.  Not saying he won't be good, but plenty of QBs are going to be picked before him.

[Mwideman 0]

Just saw some film. Kid can play. Maybe undersized for DL but seems fast enough for LB.

After our recent attempts at converting undersized DEs to play linebacker I say we just recruit kids that play linebacker and not be completely in the dark

[Wareagletd 0]

RGIII is 6'2" and 223 pounds.

Russell Wilson is 5'11" and 204 pounds.

Andrew Luck is 6'4" and 234 pounds.

Ryan Tannehill is 6'4" and 221 pounds.

These are the projected top 4 QBs in the upcoming draft. As you can see, RW is the only "small" one.

Not meaning to criticize, but I'm not sure what projection you're looking at here.  I haven't seen Wilson projected above the mid-round range.  Not saying he won't be good, but plenty of QBs are going to be picked before him.

I just googled Russell Wilson and an article said he was projected to be the 4th QB ranked in this class.

http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/21/russell-wilson-4th-ranked-quarterback-in-2012-draft/

[AuburnNTexas 7,497]

One thing nobody mentioned is a growth sprt can change everything. There are players who were a little short or a little light in April and by February were 2 inches taller and 25 pounds heavier. Doesn't happen often but it does happen.

David Robinson went to the Naval Academy at that time the tallest a Midshipmen could be was 6'6". David graduated as a 7 foot Center. He was accepted around November before he was to start school in August. He was 6'6" inches and was accepetd because he met requirement at time of acceptance he was allowed into the Academy even though he was already 6'8 or 6'9 by the time he actually started.

Late growth spurts is also one of the reason star ratings are sometimes way off. 

I agrre he is short and light now but who knows what might change in 6 months.

[criscomilk 0]

ther is no way RW is the 4th QB taken in the draft, or the 5th, or the 6th for that matter.

[tsande07 271]

RGIII is 6'2" and 223 pounds.

Russell Wilson is 5'11" and 204 pounds.

Andrew Luck is 6'4" and 234 pounds.

Ryan Tannehill is 6'4" and 221 pounds.

These are the projected top 4 QBs in the upcoming draft. As you can see, RW is the only "small" one.

Not meaning to criticize, but I'm not sure what projection you're looking at here.  I haven't seen Wilson projected above the mid-round range.  Not saying he won't be good, but plenty of QBs are going to be picked before him.

I just googled Russell Wilson and an article said he was projected to be the 4th QB ranked in this class.

http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/21/russell-wilson-4th-ranked-quarterback-in-2012-draft/

I guess you never know, but he's rated 8th by ESPN.   

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7845003/2012-nfl-draft-two-elite-prospects-lead-quarterback-class

As much as I hate agreeing with anything ESPN has to say, I don't see Wilson as the 4th QB taken. 

[Wareagletd 0]

RGIII is 6'2" and 223 pounds.

Russell Wilson is 5'11" and 204 pounds.

Andrew Luck is 6'4" and 234 pounds.

Ryan Tannehill is 6'4" and 221 pounds.

These are the projected top 4 QBs in the upcoming draft. As you can see, RW is the only "small" one.

Not meaning to criticize, but I'm not sure what projection you're looking at here.  I haven't seen Wilson projected above the mid-round range.  Not saying he won't be good, but plenty of QBs are going to be picked before him.

I just googled Russell Wilson and an article said he was projected to be the 4th QB ranked in this class.

http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/21/russell-wilson-4th-ranked-quarterback-in-2012-draft/

I guess you never know, but he's rated 8th by ESPN.    

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7845003/2012-nfl-draft-two-elite-prospects-lead-quarterback-class

As much as I hate agreeing with anything ESPN has to say, I don't see Wilson as the 4th QB taken. 

Yeah, it's just a popularity contest after the first two QBs in this draft.