Weegle777 78 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Please explain why we lose these games. With what the 3 to 4 teams that everyone is saying are teams we will very likely lose to, LSU, Georgia, bammer, and Clemson, all of which return LESS than we do as far as starters go, and will have to break in new guys on the offensive and defensive lines, how is it that these are losses? LSU loses both starting guards, two backups at guard AND tackle, and their starting fullback. But, I guess, according to many of you, their guys that will be assuming those positions are WAAAAAAYYYYYY better than anything Auburn has. So it's a loss for sure. Oh yeah, and they will be starting a brand new, UNPROVEN QB. But he is SOOOOOOOOOO much better than anybody we have. Ridiculous. Georgia loses both starting offensive tackles and starting center, the QB of the offensive line. Plus they lose their starting fullback. But their new guys are soooooo much better than anybody we have. Now on defense they return 9 starters, so they probably will be pretty stout there. But they lose Butler at punter, which won them some games with his strong leg last season. They also lost their starting TE which was a bigtime force last season. This game will be a battle. Bammer loses their starting center and OT, plus Smelley at TE which was a force last season on short yardage. They return 7 starters on offense so they may not have a bigtime drop off on offense, but they only return 5 starters on defense. They lost their entire core of LB, DB, and NG. Along with the usual National Championship hangover, they will have to totally rebuild their entire defense. But, as we all know, bammer's fourth string players would start at any FBS school right now so yeah, that's a sure loss. Ridiculous. Clemson loses BOTH starting guards and starting tackles on the offensive line along with Allen at TE who was a force and their starting fullback. But again, their new guys are so much better than anybody we have returning, so yeah sure loss. Plus they lost 3 DLinemen so they will have to rebuild there. Sure they return their stud QB and Watkins, but they can't do it alone. I guess I just can't understand how many of you can honestly say that these are sure losses when Auburn returns as many or more starters than these teams plus we return virtually our entire starting defense. QB is a concern, but knowing that Kiehl has that championship mentality, and knows how to win ballgames, I am not really that concerned about him because with Lefty at OC, he will break him in slowly with scheme. And with BVG at DC, the way the guys are talking about the system he runs, let's me know that these guys are going to be able to play attack defense and utilize their God-given skills to pressure the QB. *****Now I just did spot research on returning starters and key losses for these opponents, so if some are incorrect, then feel free to correct them. ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telling tiger 156 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Some folks have also added arkmart to that sure loss list, as well. I do not believe it. I guarantee you the players don't. I see lsu,uga and uat as certain challenges but I do not see them as certain losses. That is why our team plays the game, to determine a winner. The other reason they are certain losses is because yourboymaxweezy said to write it down Weegs, this may be your most coherent thread ever, you ok? There is like content and a smidge of research and everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weegle777 78 Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 Some folks have also added arkmart to that sure loss list, as well. I do not believe it. I guarantee you the players don't. I see lsu,uga and uat as certain challenges but I do not see them as certain losses. That is why our team plays the game, to determine a winner. The other reason they are certain losses is because yourboymaxweezy said to write it down Weegs, this may be your most coherent thread ever, you ok? There is like content and a smidge of research and everything I think I fell out of bed last night and hit my head. Either that or my wife struck me about the head and shoulders with a hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift 351 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Call me a skeptic but I am very concerned about the transition that will take place with the new coordinators. It is not uncommon to see some disruption in the team when new coordinators arrive. I am cautiously optimistic about our chances this season but to think that the team will not struggle some (particularly in the first 3-4 games) to adjust to the new schemes is unrealistic. Having said that, I think we may win one of the three games you mentioned but two of those games (Clemson and LSU) will take place during this 3-4 game adjustment window. That is why I think we lose at least two of those three games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weegle777 78 Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 Call me a skeptic but I am very concerned about the transition that will take place with the new coordinators. It is not uncommon to see some disruption in the team when new coordinators arrive. I am cautiously optimistic about our chances this season but to think that the team will not struggle some (particularly in the first 3-4 games) to adjust to the new schemes is unrealistic. Having said that, I think we may win one of the three games you mentioned but two of those games (Clemson and LSU) will take place during this 3-4 game adjustment window. That is why I think we lose at least two of those three games. If our guys were having trouble accepting these schemes along with accepting our new coordinators, I would agree. But these guys have raved about how they absolutely love these coaches and these schemes and according to Robin, have been busting their tails working on these schemes right now. I see no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telling tiger 156 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 So using that same logic of some early struggle under a new OC or DC, I'm thinking uat has a new OC and according to reports plan to become more passing balanced this season. Do you see the same early struggle there? If not, why. A new OC is a new OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELI 0 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I don't seem to recall us having a problem in 04 with Borges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waspan 0 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Who's been using the words 'certain losses'? Nothing is certain except the phrase 'NOTHING IS CERTAIN'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,732 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I do not consider any game as a guaranteed loss. UGA and Clemson I have as toss up games. I do believe we will have uphill battles against Bammer and Corndog State U but they are winnable. As for Corndog State I fully expect Metts to be an upgrade at QB. Heck a trained monkey would be a better QB than the 2 they had last season. Even though LSU returns only five defensive starters in 2012, the Tigers return 12 of their top 22 in the two-deep on D. Their Secondary and LBs will be sick as usual. With their talented backs they will have a good run game and I believe Mets can vastly improve their pass game if he does not turn the ball over. As for Bammer even though they are only returning 4 on D the back ups who will now start would have started for many teams in the country. On offense even though they will not put up mind boggling stats because of Saban's style, I do expect them to score early and often and be very efficient. I think AJ's confidence will skyrocket from winning the title last year and I expect him to have a great year. While they will miss Trent at RB I expect them to have a very good running game. I expect He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named to have a breakout year as a Freshman RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,732 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I actually feel the 2 new coordinators are a breathe of fresh air for the players. The transition to BVG's still will be fairly easy because it's the same as Chizik would run it. The offense may not be spectacular but they will do well and be very efficient. CSL said one of his main goals is to help the D so I expect us to be a bit conservative at times but take care of the ball very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoALtiger 3,938 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 There are no guaranteed losses-and guess what- there are no guaranteed wins either. It's the SEC folks, anyone can win on a certain day. We will certainly be better and I like our chances in all the games but I'm not gonna predict an undefeated season. I don't think any SEC squad is going undefeated this season actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyeEraTiger 0 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I think that Bama and LSU will have better teams but UGA and Clemson are even with us. I don't believe any game is a guaranteed loss this year. Last year, I felt differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesG 0 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 You did a great job picking out the possible weak spots of those opponents, and you were very accurate in doing so, but you have to take into account some problems that WE could face this season as well. We are young and unproven in many areas. We HOPE we will be improved in some areas, we SHOULD be improved in some areas, but no one knows for sure. We have great POTENTIAL in some position groups, but right now thats all it is, potential. We have had complete turnover on both sides of the ball with new coordinators and new schemes, and a lot of people are just glossing over that like its no big deal at all. Do you remember how completely dominated we were by the top teams in the league last year?? It looked like men against boys much of the time. Will we close that gap in ONE offseason?? I think it's possible but people have a right to be skeptical. For the record I think Clemson UGA and even Arky are very winnable games, and we could suprise LSU because it's at home. It all hinges on what we get from the QB position IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weegle777 78 Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 The reason it looked like men against boys, is because it WAS men against boys last season. Many are glossing over the fact that 70% of our team last year was freshmen and sophomores. These kids haven't been just laying around since the season ended, they have been killing themselves to get stronger, faster, and bigger, and key guys have been holding every player accountable this offseason. These guys, as AUQBDAD had said have taken ownership of this team and are not letting guys slack and goof off. This will not be last years' team guys. This team is on a mission and if you don't think that the coaches have been reminding them how they were woodsheded by these four teams, you are crazy. These games are circled with HUGE red circles on the calendar. We Comin' by God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick.AU 13,290 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 If anyone sees a game as a "Guaranteed loss" then your not a true fan IMO. Every time AU steps on the field I always expect them to win! We're not Ball st, Vandy, or Miss St. Heck Miss St. hasn't beaten an SEC West team other than Ole Miss under Dan Mullen, and yet they still claim every year that they are going to win the SEC. I Believe in AU and love it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMassie11 1,643 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 On paper the only losses would be to bama and lsu....uga still has major problems on the o line and now crowell is gone that hurts them even more however their d will be sick....I think we will beat arky and clemson but at the point in the year without seeing out offense and defense at work I'm not too sure about lsu uga and the turds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbird82 160 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Some folks have also added arkmart to that sure loss list, as well. I do not believe it. I guarantee you the players don't. I see lsu,uga and uat as certain challenges but I do not see them as certain losses. That is why our team plays the game, to determine a winner. The other reason they are certain losses is because yourboymaxweezy said to write it down Weegs, this may be your most coherent thread ever, you ok? There is like content and a smidge of research and everything ^^^Must be the heat!^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weegle777 78 Posted June 30, 2012 Author Share Posted June 30, 2012 Some folks have also added arkmart to that sure loss list, as well. I do not believe it. I guarantee you the players don't. I see lsu,uga and uat as certain challenges but I do not see them as certain losses. That is why our team plays the game, to determine a winner. The other reason they are certain losses is because yourboymaxweezy said to write it down Weegs, this may be your most coherent thread ever, you ok? There is like content and a smidge of research and everything ^^^Must be the heat!^^^ Every octopus finds a mushroom every now and then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbird82 160 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Some folks have also added arkmart to that sure loss list, as well. I do not believe it. I guarantee you the players don't. I see lsu,uga and uat as certain challenges but I do not see them as certain losses. That is why our team plays the game, to determine a winner. The other reason they are certain losses is because yourboymaxweezy said to write it down Weegs, this may be your most coherent thread ever, you ok? There is like content and a smidge of research and everything ^^^Must be the heat!^^^ Every octopus finds a mushroom every now and then! I think I know where that mushroom came from...somewhere off of Wire Road maybe? Makes for a good tea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburn4Winners 0 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I don't seem to recall us having a problem in 04 with Borges. BOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dp4au 2 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Pearls of wisdom: Only thing I know is guaranteed, death and taxes. You play the game because anything can happen. The "sure thing" will always let you down. Know back to my afternoon nap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SphyNxXx 98 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Something to keep in mind about this season.... At this time last year, the parent of a team member said that the team had potential, but there would be some growing pains. That poster also said that they would not be reading the board until after the season. In hindsight, that was a very telling statement and we were fortunate to do as well as we did last season. This season, the parent of a player is saying that the team has a chip on their shoulder and knows that they are better than they are given credit for. There is also a feeling of excitement among those with true inside knowledge of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburn4Winners 0 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I keep seeing everybody say how "sick" UGAy's defense will be, BUT, can we just take a second to look at our defensive talent? Our D-Line is now unleashed and every single one of you on this site knows how SICK they are gonna be. Depth, talent, experience and coaching. They lack nothing. Our LBs are thin and a little undersized, but they have talent coming out of their ears. They may struggle a little at first but I fully believe that Jake Holland will have a breakout year and Frost is gonna be a monster. Not to mention the seniors DB and JE coming in with years of experience. Then our DBs. T-Bell, Whitehead, Therezie, McNeal, Florence, DAVIS, oh and not to mention our new secondary coach Willie Martinez. Martinez has been successful everywhere he's gone coaching DBs and has worked with BVG in his scheme before, making the transition even easier. I just need someone to tell me who it is you're expecting to fail on this defensive lineup. I think Clemson is a big game for us because it will set the tone for our team. HOWEVER. I don't think Clemson has what it takes to handle us. Our guys got beat down last year and instead of rising up and fighting back they dropped their heads and gave up. NOT THIS TIME. We finally have the leadership that can and will say "Hey we've been to the top and you don't get there by giving up" They know they can win and I fully believe that we will shock the college football world AGAIN this year just like we did in 2010. I BELIEVE IN AUBURN AND LOVE IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charleyrogers24 0 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 HUMMM??? The way I see this....the only CERTAIN LOSSES in our games this year, are: The ones we FORFIT!!!! WAR EAGLE!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telling tiger 156 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Something to keep in mind about this season.... At this time last year, the parent of a team member said that the team had potential, but there would be some growing pains. That poster also said that they would not be reading the board until after the season. In hindsight, that was a very telling statement and we were fortunate to do as well as we did last season. This season, the parent of a player is saying that the team has a chip on their shoulder and knows that they are better than they are given credit for. There is also a feeling of excitement among those with true inside knowledge of the team. Grasshopper has good memory and extremely good and valid point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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