CRM44 0 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 If I remember correctly we can't sign a full class this year. With seemingly so many prospects interested in auburn right now, how many spots do we have left? Will we have to turn some recruits away? Great problem to have though! WDE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gman87 405 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Nobody is sure but opinion is 20ish due to attrition and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcm81 2 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I would say 23, but I was influenced by another thread going around with this in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,731 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I would say 23, but I was influenced by another thread going around with this in it. ^^^^This and right now I am basing that on BMatt projection of 23 for Auburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuburnArch13 185 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I would say 23, but I was influenced by another thread going around with this in it. ^^^^This and right now I am basing that on BMatt projection of 23 for Auburn. What would attrition have to look like for that to happen? And is there any chance that one, or both, of the kickers has been approached about the possibility of a gray shirt? I know the idea was tossed around with Clark a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,731 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I would say 23, but I was influenced by another thread going around with this in it. ^^^^This and right now I am basing that on BMatt projection of 23 for Auburn. What would attrition have to look like for that to happen? And is there any chance that one, or both, of the kickers has been approached about the possibility of a gray shirt? I know the idea was tossed around with Clark a few years back. Auburn usually does not greyshirt kickers and I don't see it happening now. As for what has to happen?...not much if players like Zeke and Rose do not come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTUmike 79 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I would say 23, but I was influenced by another thread going around with this in it. ^^^^This and right now I am basing that on BMatt projection of 23 for Auburn. Auburn usually does not greyshirt kickers and I don't see it happening now. As for what has to happe?...not much if players like Zeke and Rose do not come back. What would attrition have to look like for that to happen? And is there any chance that one, or both, of the kickers has been approached about the possibility of a gray shirt? I know the idea was tossed around with Clark a few years back. In addition to guys like Rose and Pike being possible question marks, Lemonier may jump to the NFL. Also, I don't know if anyone has addressed this but assuming Frazier wins the QB race then I could see a guy like Moseley wanting to transfer to get some playing time (NOT that I think CM isn't a great Auburn guy, but I can tell how much of a competitor he is and he just seems like he'd toy with the idea at least). And then, there's always the grades, medical, and discipline attrition. I really see us signing a full 25 when all is said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpwspringer 0 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Since we are talking 'what ifs' with the recruiting numbers, we only signed 21 last year (2012). That means we have 4 or more available for EEs that could count back to 2012 as long as we would stay under the 85 limit. But we only signed 24 the year before that (2011) and we likely used that one available scholarship to 'count back' one of this year's (2012) EEs. If I understand it correctly, that would mean we have only used 20 of last year's (2012) allotted 25 and have 5 available for EEs to count back. That gives us 5 EEs that could count back to the 2012 class and 25 for the 2013 class. It isn't likely we will sign that many... but it is desirable to use those 5 EEs so that we have more options going forward in the 2014 class and beyond just in case we ever need to sign as many as possible, like we did in the 2010 class where we had something like 7 EEs plus 25 for a total infusion of 32. (I'm using Rival's numbers http://rivals.yahoo.com/auburn/football/recruiting/commitments/2010/auburn-75 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU60 0 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I think the only problem we have is with the 85 limit. We are very close to 85 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpwspringer 0 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I think the only problem we have is with the 85 limit. We are very close to 85 now. Agreed... for this year as it stands right now. My comments about EEs and recruiting numbers are basically that you want to utilize those to keep your options open going forward just in case you ever find yourself in a situation where you need/want to sign more than 25. There is a fine art in utilizing EEs to maintain your scholarship numbers as close to 85 as you can. In some cases you might find yourself accepting a recruit if and only if he is an EE because of how your numbers work out. Without EEs that count back, we might not have signed Cam Newton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMan70 3,321 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I think the only problem we have is with the 85 limit. We are very close to 85 now. Agreed... for this year as it stands right now. My comments about EEs and recruiting numbers are basically that you want to utilize those to keep your options open going forward just in case you ever find yourself in a situation where you need/want to sign more than 25. There is a fine art in utilizing EEs to maintain your scholarship numbers as close to 85 as you can. In some cases you might find yourself accepting a recruit if and only if he is an EE because of how your numbers work out. Without EEs that count back, we might not have signed Cam Newton. I think you are right for EEs when you are under the 85 limit. But once you hit the 85 limit, every EE you want to bring in then must have a December graduate to match it. I am pretty sure that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense(clap clap) 4 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I think the only problem we have is with the 85 limit. We are very close to 85 now. If Ikeem Means is on scholarship and everyone from the last class qualifies, I believe we'll have 82 on scholarship. Lemond Johnson is planning to enroll early, so that will leave us with 2 more EE spots if those numbers are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,731 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Since we are talking 'what ifs' with the recruiting numbers, we only signed 21 last year (2012). That means we have 4 or more available for EEs that could count back to 2012 as long as we would stay under the 85 limit. But we only signed 24 the year before that (2011) and we likely used that one available scholarship to 'count back' one of this year's (2012) EEs. If I understand it correctly, that would mean we have only used 20 of last year's (2012) allotted 25 and have 5 available for EEs to count back. That gives us 5 EEs that could count back to the 2012 class and 25 for the 2013 class. It isn't likely we will sign that many... but it is desirable to use those 5 EEs so that we have more options going forward in the 2014 class and beyond just in case we ever need to sign as many as possible, like we did in the 2010 class where we had something like 7 EEs plus 25 for a total infusion of 32. (I'm using Rival's numbers http://rivals.yahoo.com/auburn/football/recruiting/commitments/2010/auburn-75 ) Your theory is correct but your numbers are a bit off. Since transfers count to the 25 now Prosh counts against the 25 so we have 22 players against the 25 last year. Plus in 2011 Mike Blakely counts against the 25 making that class a full class. I have confirmed this with BMatt and compliance. If you want an accurate number of players we bring in each year go to Auburn's ESPN recruiting page. They do the best job of keeping up with that stuff. Link So with all of that said we can have 3 EEs in the class that count to the 2012 class. We can bring in more EEs if we have room under the 85. For example, Let's say we are at 82 now and 5 players graduate in December. In that case we can have 8 EEs with 3 counting to 2012 and 5 to 2013. On to class numbers. You are correct you want fill up all available spots because there is a rollover for bringing in new players. So If we have 3 EEs that count to the 2012 class and we use BMatt's projection of 23 signees for this class we will in effect count 20 in this 2013 class. That means with 5 EEs we could sign as many as 30 in the 2014 class. If we do not use the full allotment in 2014 which I expect then we have more numbers for the 2015 class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpwspringer 0 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Since we are talking 'what ifs' with the recruiting numbers, we only signed 21 last year (2012). That means we have 4 or more available for EEs that could count back to 2012 as long as we would stay under the 85 limit. But we only signed 24 the year before that (2011) and we likely used that one available scholarship to 'count back' one of this year's (2012) EEs. If I understand it correctly, that would mean we have only used 20 of last year's (2012) allotted 25 and have 5 available for EEs to count back. That gives us 5 EEs that could count back to the 2012 class and 25 for the 2013 class. It isn't likely we will sign that many... but it is desirable to use those 5 EEs so that we have more options going forward in the 2014 class and beyond just in case we ever need to sign as many as possible, like we did in the 2010 class where we had something like 7 EEs plus 25 for a total infusion of 32. (I'm using Rival's numbers http://rivals.yahoo.com/auburn/football/recruiting/commitments/2010/auburn-75 ) Your theory is correct but your numbers are a bit off. Since transfers count to the 25 now Prosh counts against the 25 so we have 22 players against the 25 last year. Plus in 2011 Mike Blakely counts against the 25 making that class a full class. I have confirmed this with BMatt and compliance. If you want an accurate number of players we bring in each year go to Auburn's ESPN recruiting page. They do the best job of keeping up with that stuff. Link So with all of that said we can have 3 EEs in the class that count to the 2012 class. We can bring in more EEs if we have room under the 85. For example, Let's say we are at 82 now and 5 players graduate in December. In that case we can have 8 EEs with 3 counting to 2012 and 5 to 2013. On to class numbers. You are correct you want fill up all available spots because there is a rollover for bringing in new players. So If we have 3 EEs that count to the 2012 class and we use BMatt's projection of 23 signees for this class we will in effect count 20 in this 2013 class. That means with 5 EEs we could sign as many as 30 in the 2014 class. If we do not use the full allotment in 2014 which I expect then we have more numbers for the 2015 class. Thanks for the corrections. Any idea how many of the commits in our upcoming class expect to be EEs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,731 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Any idea how many of the commits in our upcoming class expect to be EEs? Not sure as of right now but you can expect a minimum of 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpwspringer 0 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Anyone else have a hankering for a Rueben sandwich and a Foster's beer when the subject of recruiting comes up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTUmike 79 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Anyone else have a hankering for a Rueben sandwich and a Foster's beer when the subject of recruiting comes up? I've always had that hankering anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerJokerAU 0 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Speaking of Reuben, is there ANY chance that RF can be an EE? I know he was planning on it and then things changed. Was it grades or what that kept it from happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
around4ever 4,139 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Speaking of Reuben, is there ANY chance that RF can be an EE? I know he was planning on it and then things changed. Was it grades or what that kept it from happening? No. I'm not sure if it was problems with the transfer or what but he will now graduate in the spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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