Was there a difference after QB change???

[Briggs4AU 0]

NO!!!!!! It's not the QB, like I've said before, it's coaching! Bad QB play doesn't account for 7 points after 2 weeks of preperation!

[NoALtiger 3,674]

Clearly there are issues all around. Total mess in all facets, save special teams basically.

[gotigers 0]

Both QB's had bad games. The Oline is killing us.

Horrible horrible horrible game. I love Auburn, but the product we are putting out is atrocious right now.

[weagl1 1,755]

No. They are both equally inept and the OL looked like a revolving door. Total breakdown again with the offense.

[Maverick.AU 13,020]

Both QB's had bad games. The Oline is killing us.

Horrible horrible horrible game. I love Auburn, but the product we are putting out is atrocious right now.

Agree 100%, our line doesn't look like it is getting any push whatsoever.

[zamps76 2]

The o line is deff a problem also but they put the wrong QB in the game should have been JW with a o line that cant hold off pressure you need a mobile QB and no Frazier is not mobile

[TeBoneAU 87]

The O-line was absolutely awful today! Both tackles were getting their rearends beat all day and the

play calling didn't help.

[oxford tiger12 0]

Yes, there was a change. Things got worse after Mosley got in the game

[NoALtiger 3,674]

Yes, there was a change. Things got worse after Mosley got in the game

Yeah, because we were scoring so much with KF under center. As usual.

[murpjf88 503]

Not that CM is any special talent, but he basically did what Keihl has done for the first 4.5 games. And maybe my eyes were deceiving me, but I thought I saw more completions of 10+ yards from CM in one half than I did from Keihl in the last 1.5 games.

[milehighfan 1,211]

Pathetic, on both sides of the ball. So what did they do for two weeks?

[Gallonofmilk 0]

Is it just me, or did the WR's seem more in-tune with Mosely in the game? A few slight glances of the old T Reed and T Stallworth as well, which was a nice change. Travon seemed to get going the most once Mosely showed up. Yes he threw interceptions, but he drove the ball down the field. KF just can't seem to get his timing right after seeing Mosely play. That's my input.

[SumterAubie 2,921]

No change. The great Pat Sullivan would've struggled today with such poor pass blocking in front of him.

[milehighfan 1,211]

Dye said Chizik will be back if AU does not win another game. If today was any indication, they may not.

[war eagle6 0]

There's no way we as a fan should base accept this type of play from a football team. It's only going to get worst if we keep on with this sunshine pumping!! Everybody has gotten better but us, why is that? Someone please let me know!!!!!

[BigSammyK 169]

The only thing that was accomplished by putting Mosely in was confirmation that burning Wallace's redshirt was a stupid decision.

[gulftiger66 161]

There's no way we as a fan should base accept this type of play from a football team. It's only going to get worst if we keep on with this sunshine pumping!! Everybody has gotten better but us, why is that? Someone please let me know!!!!!

Whatever transpires on this message board has about the same impact on AU winning a football game as me changing from an orange to a blue shirt at halftime, hoping that will work. And I did, and it obviously didn't work.

[TigerPaw1 0]

I thought our offense looked better when Clint came in. We moved the ball. Actually got to the redzone twice. Problem was Clint threw 2 picks... I will say this though. Clint looked more in command of the offense then Kiehl. KF might be the most fragile minded QB have ever seen at Auburn. You can see when he's confident and when he's not. After that 2nd sack or so he was done mentally for the game. I say rotate Reed and Bray at QB and run triple option rest of the season

[Mikey 15,850]

It was no better with Moseley. If we're going to taylor the offense to the scheme rather than the player, just as well go with Moseley. He seems to suit the drop-back or hand it off plan better. If we could stand to use some rollouts and options, Frazier is the better bet. After all, that's what Frazier was recruited to do.

All that having been said, no QB is going to have success behind that O-line, just as no running back is going to have success behind them. It doesn't matter what play is called if the o-line is tossed back into the backfield, it won't work. In 2007, true freshmen Ziemba, Pugh and Ramsey stepped up and did a serviceable job. Either these guys aren't as good or Hugh Nall was a better O-line coach than is Grimes. I reported, you decide.

[cole256 16,363]

Mosley didn't do anything. He had one play where he dumped it to Mason and Mason had a big gain. That td was a busted play. The last two series Arky played prevent and let him throw down field and as soon as we got into the redzone they blitzed and Mosely threw picks. Mosely also "braces" himself and give up while the blitz is coming before he is even hit. Bringing him in was stupid.

[murpjf88 503]

It was no better with Moseley. If we're going to taylor the offense to the scheme rather than the player, just as well go with Moseley. He seems to suit the drop-back or hand it off plan better. If we could stand to use some rollouts and options, Frazier is the better bet. After all, that's what Frazier was recruited to do.

All that having been said, no QB is going to have success behind that O-line, just as no running back is going to have success behind them. It doesn't matter what play is called if the o-line is tossed back into the backfield, it won't work. In 2007, true freshmen Ziemba, Pugh and Ramsey stepped up and did a serviceable job. Either these guys aren't as good or Hugh Nall was a better O-line coach than is Grimes. I reported, you decide.

KF is an option QB. He has more mobility than CM, but he barely gains yards on the ground and when he does, its usually a minimal gain or a loss. For a mobile Qb, his instincts leave something to be desired. You'd think by his sophomore year, he would understand the importance of throwing the ball away vs taking a sack and a 10 yard loss that instantly kills momentum.

[NoALtiger 3,674]

Coaches had no choice but to try and shake things up. Frazier produces absolutely zero results despite the man crush that some of our brethren has on him. There is really not a an answer to our immediate problem though as none of our QB's could start for any decent program out there. The fault lies with the coaches for not having a competent player at the most important position.

[cole256 16,363]

he probably would understand it more if he would have gotten to run the offense his freshman year. But coming in playing running back last year this year is his freshman year

[TexasTiger 11,641]

No change. The great Pat Sullivan would've struggled today with such poor pass blocking in front of him.

But he would have gotten rid of the ball.

[Altima 200]

Mosley didn't do anything. He had one play where he dumped it to Mason and Mason had a big gain. That td was a busted play. The last two series Arky played prevent and let him throw down field and as soon as we got into the redzone they blitzed and Mosely threw picks. Mosely also "braces" himself and give up while the blitz is coming before he is even hit. Bringing him in was stupid.

^^^ this man gets it ^^^ Kiehl is bad, but he's the best we have.