level heads....

[Guest jojo1515]

I know alot of people wont agree with this, but I am posting it anyways. I want CGC back next year. I also want SL gone today. If you look objectively at our team, we have some basic problems. I see BVG doing one hell of a job. Keep in mind what our defense looked like before he got here. Even though our O is helping the d less this year than last, our D is improving in all aspects.

SL was a rediculously terrible hire. I believe the reason for this hire was loyalty to coaches currently on staff. SL had only been an OC for 1 year and didnt really have anyone he needed to bring with him.

If we can hire a top notch OC and let him bring his guys in that know his system, we will be in great shape. We have great athletes on this team. Our D is moving in the direction of becoming one of the best around. While there is room for improvement, the O is sucking the life out of all players on the team. If we can simply get a REAL OC, our d will keep us in games long enoigh for the O to start clicking. I predict that if we hire a quality OC with his own assistants and give him control of his offense, we win 9+ next year and only improve from there. Hopefully CGC sees the light (and it is not a train)

[CleCoTiger 1,957]

I also want Chiz back. I think he's earned the right to have another year and a chance to turn it around. On CSL I am undecided though what happens from here on out may change that.

[Raven_tiger 5]

We are 1-6 in the last 7 sec games. How do you blame that on CSL??? Chizik has not shown that he is anything better than a 8-5 coach with exceptional talent at Auburn. We are a trainwreck and Chizik is/has been the conductor.

[DyeCampAlum 335]

Personally, I wanted Luper to come in and run the OKState offense. Maybe that's not his thing, but it's what I wanted.

I think the big decision boils down to this. Do you believe the evidence says we can build from here and win the SEC in one or two years, or do you see a negative trend that's just too much to overlook? I'm in the second group not because we've been losing but because we haven't even been competitive.

[texastiger09 0]

It's time for jay jacobs and chizik to pack their bags. Our performance on the field is a joke!!

[CleCoTiger 1,957]

It's time for jay jacobs and chizik to pack their bags. Our performance on the field is a joke!!

Would you consider starting a thread for unlevel heads?

[JMassie11 1,588]

I agree about chiz 200%....that being said something is going on behind the scenes....either chiz isn't buying into what sl wants to do or sl isn't buying into chiz philosophy on what he wants...this offense does not have an identity ....each game the play calling is completely different as the week before...vs clemson we saw signs of the offense then lsu looked more spread with lots of lateral runs and screens to yesterday it was almost Franklin with a little behind center mixed in....something seriously is going on

[weagl1 1,755]

I hope Chiz has reached a decision point after the latest debacle. If he hasn't he is not the person to lead this program. Its one thing to apologize for the poor effort, but that is not what we need a this point. We need someone who will make the changes necessary to try to be successful. This offense is a train wreck and Lefty needs to go now. Turn the offense over to the other assistants and try to salvage something from this season. Put the fullback in the game, run it up the middle with Mason, and punt if we don't get the first down. At least give the defense a chance to win some games for us. They have no chance when the QB's are throwing it to the wrong color jerseys and taking sacks.

[benjazz 0]

Who are you going to hire as OC. Reality is everyone knows if they don't produce next year and win games Chiz is gone.. No one we would want would take the job as OC under those circumstances. Will not happen.

[tbone4jc 2,113]

My level headed thoughts. I see a lot of QUIT on this team. I see a few players who go all out all the time but I see a lot of players who have quit or doesn't believe in what is being taught, coaches also. I have given CGC my unwavering faith that he would lead us to the next level and he has, but in the wrong direction. Saturday's game removed my orange and blue tinted outlook, as the head of this program CGC is entirely responsible for the downward spiral this program is headed. There is nothing that would make me happier to see this program turn around this season I just do not see it happening. This is a new low that I have never seen before

[gbau1985 0]

Coach Loeffler has done a decent job considering the circumstances. Maybe he's more comfortable up in the box calling plays.

[tombigbeetiger 223]

It's time for jay jacobs and chizik to pack their bags. Our performance on the field is a joke!!

Would you consider starting a thread for unlevel heads?

you should be the first post for wanting to continue this trainwreck for another year

[fishhawkeagle 0]

I also want Chiz back. I think he's earned the right to have another year and a chance to turn it around. On CSL I am undecided though what happens from here on out may change that.

How can you possibly still be on the fence with Loeffler? Have you watched an of the games? This is the most disjointed unimaginative train wreck of an offense I have ever seen. We are currently 115th in the country in yards per game. Answer me one question, what what would you call this offensive theory? What are we trying to accomplish?

[DyeHardAllTheWay 0]

Firing Coach Loeffler immediately won't do anything except regress our offense even more, if that's even possible. In 2008, firing Tony Franklin did just that. We were shut out once and almost got shut out again by Ole Miss. Right now, Gene Chizik is just going to have man up and deal with the consequences of bad decisions for the rest of the season. Having said that, he and his staff are going to have to answer for those mistakes at the end of the season. He may have to pay the ultimate price for a bad OC hire ultimately.

[miska_maniac 0]

Personally, I wanted Luper to come in and run the OKState offense. Maybe that's not his thing, but it's what I wanted.

I think the big decision boils down to this. Do you believe the evidence says we can build from here and win the SEC in one or two years, or do you see a negative trend that's just too much to overlook? I'm in the second group not because we've been losing but because we haven't even been competitive.

Actually, that is his thing. In fact, Luper was being groomed to be the next OC. When Malzahn left, he was going to step in as the OC I thought I remember reading that somewhere. Maybe I just wanted to believe that but honestly I remember something along those lines. Luper would have been a great interim OC at least. I always thought it was a bit odd that was never brought forward as a viable option. It seems as though Chizik wanted no part of that direction. Then again, it may have been Jay Jacobs and someone above him that wanted no part of that direction.

[fishhawkeagle 0]

Coach Loeffler has done a decent job considering the circumstances. Maybe he's more comfortable up in the box calling plays.

What circumstances? What are you talking about? What circumstance has impeded his ability to move the football down the field?

[Guest jojo1515]

I look at it this way...

If Chiz had not come here, we would probably be saying it has been 55 years since our last NC. Now, however; we can say it has been 2. What ever the reason, luck or skill, he was the head man when it came. IMO, that gives him next year. Ask yourselves this....do we really want the possiblilty of the revolving door in coaching? That didnt work out so well for Bama for about 10 years. I think the issues on this team are almost 100% due to the offense. I feel there is disagreement and dissention on offense that is causing the defense to grow tired and stop caring. Loeffler does not appear to be a leader (nor a qb coach for that matter). His play calling ability is at small town HS level. Imo, we are seeing exactly the Tony Franklin debacle with a less talented OC than TF. An OC that is PROVEN should be willing to come to AU for the salary we offer. An above average OC and keeping BVG would have us at 10+ wins every year.

[tombigbeetiger 223]

Who are you going to hire as OC. Reality is everyone knows if they don't produce next year and win games Chiz is gone.. No one we would want would take the job as OC under those circumstances. Will not happen.

yep,take a broom and sweep the place up,starting in the AD office.....leave DC room alone and let him do his own sweeping

[fishhawkeagle 0]

I also want Chiz back. I think he's earned the right to have another year and a chance to turn it around. On CSL I am undecided though what happens from here on out may change that.

How can you possibly still be on the fence with Loeffler? Have you watched an of the games? This is the most disjointed unimaginative train wreck of an offense I have ever seen. We are currently 115th in the country in yards per game. Answer me one question, what what would you call this offensive theory? What are we trying to accomplish?

two questions i suppose

[Bottomfeeder 244]

Stattiger: For every offensive touchdown Auburn has scored this season, they have turned the ball over 3 times. The self-inflicted miscues this team has battled through this season is a strong indicator of how poorly prepared the Tigers have been this year. As long as this continues Auburn will fail to perform consistently and will fall victim to additional lopsided defeats.

IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, "WE GON DA WRONG WAY."

[JSS_WDE 0]

Coach Loeffler has done a decent job considering the circumstances. Maybe he's more comfortable up in the box calling plays.

Sorry, don't agree with that statement at all. The way he calls plays is like he has no gameplan ready at all. "Oh its 3rd and 22 again? Hell HB Draw will do it."

[tbone4jc 2,113]

With play like this, how long before recruits start to jump ship? And who could blame them?

[wdefromtx 3,156]

I would be okay if they were showing improvement........but they are getting worse.

[IronMan70 3,271]

With play like this, how long before recruits start to jump ship? And who could blame them?

That is what I am afraid of and if that starts to happen with the great defensive recruits BVG has put together, I am afraid this thing is going to come unraveled fast.

[IronMan70 3,271]

On the OC issue, I am afraid we are in a real pickle now. I thought the best thing last year was to promote from within if your goal was to keep the staff intact. Bringing in an outsider and not letting him bring in his own people rarely works for two reasons. First,since you wanted to keep the rest of the staff, those that got passed over have a natural resentment for not getting the job.

Second, the new guy not only has to deal with that issue with his acquired assistants, even if unspoken by them, but he also doesn't have his own people in place. That is why if Chiz wanted to keep all the old staff, he should have just promoted from within. Now, the only viable choice I can see if he wants to make a change in OC is to promote from within right now. It would cause the least amount of turmoil to the team and staff.

On Chizik and I say this right now only for what is best for Auburn at this very moment, I think it would be worse not to have him back in '13. We need to keep BVG's defensive recruiting class together if at all possible and we need to keep BVG at AU no matter what. You can read between the lines on that one.