What is our offensive philosophy?

[rtftiger 40]

What are we trying to do? How do we want to beat defenses? What do we want defenses to have to defend? We're five games in, and I have no clue.

I see a hodgepodge of formations and some creative play calling. However, I'm not real sure what we're trying to accomplish.

[DiamondencrustedBen 0]

Get sacked. Turn ball over.

[Texan4Auburn 1,626]

I believe the plan was to go to a power run game with a strong play action passing attack that could chew clock and help keep the defense off the field. Then work this into a balanced attack as the unit progressed.

Its been working for Alabama, LSU, Georgia, South Carolina.... the SEC period. Hell that DL guy from Missouri called it old man football and insulted UGA for doing it and I don't think they have won a SEC game yet. Mean the first thing Muschamp did at UF was to turn a spread recruited program into a pro style/multiple (whatever you want to call it, im not a guru).

We probably look so hodgepodge cause we havnt found what works for yet lol.

[fishhawkeagle 0]

Snap, poop, fall down.

[fishhawkeagle 0]

Seriously though this is the question I have been asking for the last few weeks. What is the OC trying to accomplish? A properly, or even improperly, coordinated offense attempts to use sets of formations and plays to determine how opposing defenses will react. This is why we hear that teams have their first 10 or 15 plays "scripted". They run these plays to see how the other team opposes them in order to set the plan of attack. When we go to the I formation, the defense settles into a base 4-3. Ok, now I know that I can show an I formation but release the tight end across the middle and set a bubble screen on the weak side to take advantage of their safety crashing down when he sees the tight end release. Boom, if the wideouts set the screen theres opportunity for a big play. That doesnt happen here. What we have here is, run right. s***, Run up the middle. s***. 15 yard square in. Pick. Crap.

[Weegle777 63]

This offense is predicated on the QB being able to read the defense and check into the correct play. We no longer have Gus to meerkat and get the play from. This is big boy football that has to have a general behind center that is highly intelligent and can read the D. If you have an off tackle play called and their are 8 in the box, it's obvious that you check out of it. This is where we are falling short on offense.

[cole256 16,311]

When I watched the team they were looking at the sideline getting the plays from the coach. And how is it we're not getting smart qb's?? But I guess this is where you can say youth and experience is working against us. I don't buy that excuse at all for the defense though

[Auburn20041345162806 0]

Disclaimer: the following post is both ignorant and possibly offensive and is not at all to be considered constructive criticism. Thank you players for playing hard and we respect what you do. Coaches we want to support you but it's not like we can't just sit on here and talk about how great stallworth's catches looked.

To understand our offensve u have to understand the man, coach Scott leofer (sp?, sorry hasn't been here long enough for me to learn it but coincidently spell check tries to change his name to leader, that may be a sign) grew up somewhere in Michigan. As a small boy his parents taught him to share they would always say Scott share your candy, toys and baseball cards. As a sr in high school he would receive a reward for donating his time to local charities And after school programs. His sr quote was "it is better to give than receive". He grows up to be a fine quarterback and attends the university of Michigan where he double majors in international trade and psychology and hooks up with this hot red head that some days he still wonders what she is up to but hes not sure he really remembers her name right so he doesnt call or check her out on facebook or anything. While in college he continus his good works, once he helped a midget out of a puddle (this man would later be known as nick Saban) he even helped a friend get a date with a girl in his freshman class (that man was bobby petrino, who was 55 at the time). In a game late in his career he threw an interception after that game the young man who intercepted that pass told him that it was the nicest thing anyone had ever done for him and that man gave him a soda. Then he goes on to become a coach, works with Tim tebow and sees what a great thing it is to give to the world around you. He coaches for a year at temple but feels like he can't give enough to the community there so he takes the auburn job. He develops a new offensive philosophy that encorporates his love for giving and hate for selfishness and a love for experimental psychology which was strongly influenced by BF SKinner (not the published work but the drunken years). As a rule every six snaps the QB ignores our receivers and throws to the other team (this will make our receivers stronger) If we have three consecutive gains running the ball the full back is punished by being removed from the game and the running back must either leave the game or fumble on the following play. The offensive tackles are only allowed to hold their blocks if it doesn't offend the pass rushers and lutz and stallworth's must only get the ball on poorly thrown passes that end in them receiving a killer hit. The desire here is that he will lure teams into a false sense of confidence and that they will eventually come to love our giving nature and then play the game for us. For instance when we throw two interceptions in the end zone the third one is where the defensive player will run down our receivers wherever they are and hand them the ball for a touchdown. Also learning this giving nature will make our players stronger and in another year they will score anytime they touch the. Ball because they know " if I don't I'll have of fumble or come out or throw an interception ". He is currently working on a name forit his system right now the leading candidate is Chinese dumpster fire drill

[ellitor 31,763]

What is our offensive philosophy?

we have not had one since game 3 of last season.

[CleCoTiger 1,957]

Coach Chizik is wondering the same thing. Really. From WEXTRA…

Chizik: Need to create identity on offense, no starting QB named for Ole Miss game

One of the predominant issues irking Chizik more than others was the loss of any kind of continuity on offense.

"We have to settle in on having an identity and being who were are," Chizik said Sunday after reviewing tape of the Tigers’ 24-7 loss to Arkansas. "I feel like we have skipped around a little bit on that and we’re going to try to narrow the focus. Certainly there are execution problems, but when you narrow the scope of what it is we’re trying to get accomplished, I think that gives you a better chance." ... "I’m going to be involved with that and try to kind of laser-focus in on what it is and who it is that we’re trying to be offensively," Chizik said.

[snip]

"I felt like going into that (Clemson) game, we knew exactly what it is that we were trying to get accomplish in the run game," Chizik said. "It expanded a little bit as we went forward, and then I think that as we struggled trying to create … more is not necessarily always better." ... "I mean, I’m involved with everything," Chizik said. "But I really want to spend some time over there and really get focused on what it is that we’re trying to do and what we’re trying to get accomplished."

Not that it’s relevant to the topic per se, but the way I read Chizik here is that Scott Loeffler has in effect been fired. It’s not a “pack your stuff and leave” Tony Franklin kind of deal circa Tuberville 2008, but if the head coach is making these kinds of comments and saying that his offensive coordinator is basically going to be instructed on what to do, then the offensive coordinator isn’t really coordinating the offense any longer, at least not in any semi-independent way. I could be wrong here, and Chizik certainly didn’t come right out and say anything that would explicitly back my take, but that’s my between the lines/reading the tea leaves* impression.

*My impression is probably every bit as accurate as reading tea leaves.

[TheBlueVue 177]

Clearly there is no offensive philosophy but I have never seen an Auburn team play like they were as scared as this team plays

[CleCoTiger 1,957]

Clearly there is no offensive philosophy but I have never seen an Auburn team play like they were as scared as this team plays

When did you see this team play "scared"?

[weagl1 1,754]

We currently don't have an offensive philosophy, other than to create the biggest mess possible. My suggestion, put the fullback in the game, run it up the middle with Mason every play and don't feel bad about punting (rather than throwing it to the wrong color jersey, taking a big sack, etc.). Run a reverse with Blake every now and then, a QB keeper, or throw a short (no more than 5 yards) play action to the TE if he is wide open, otherwise throw it in the cheap seats. The first object must be ball security and give the defense a chance to win the game for us. If we continue to turn it over 5-6 times a game we have no chance.

[TecmoBoJackson 64]

This offense is predicated on the QB being able to read the defense and check into the correct play. We no longer have Gus to meerkat and get the play from. This is big boy football that has to have a general behind center that is highly intelligent and can read the D. If you have an off tackle play called and their are 8 in the box, it's obvious that you check out of it. This is where we are falling short on offense.

^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

[TheBlueVue 177]

Clearly there is no offensive philosophy but I have never seen an Auburn team play like they were as scared as this team plays

When did you see this team play "scared"?

Every Saturday this year. I mean on the offensive side of the ball.

[rtftiger 40]

We currently don't have an offensive philosophy, other than to create the biggest mess possible. My suggestion, put the fullback in the game, run it up the middle with Mason every play and don't feel bad about punting (rather than throwing it to the wrong color jersey, taking a big sack, etc.). Run a reverse with Blake every now and then, a QB keeper, or throw a short (no more than 5 yards) play action to the TE if he is wide open, otherwise throw it in the cheap seats. The first object must be ball security and give the defense a chance to win the game for us. If we continue to turn it over 5-6 times a game we have no chance.

This is exactly where I'm heading. We're trying to play a more conventional offense that is run oriented. I'm not sure why we've made that choice, considering that we will go head to head with Alabama for the same skills, but we have.

If we're going for that, just run the ball. Help your struggling line out by telling them to just hit somebody in the mouth. Put Bain in the backfield and try to make a crease for Tre Mason who has shown himself to be a solid runner (if not of ideal size).

[CleCoTiger 1,957]

Clearly there is no offensive philosophy but I have never seen an Auburn team play like they were as scared as this team plays

When did you see this team play "scared"?

Every Saturday this year. I mean on the offensive side of the ball.

We're watching a different team. I have seen confusion and mistakes, but I haven't seen scared.