AUB7680 0 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I was so excited the past two years when we signed some awesome offensive lineman, and at this point that seems to be a glaring weakness! We are getting sacked like crazy! Doesn't Coach Grimes know how to coach blocking schemes? I am really surprised! I thought after a few games of playing SEC defenses they would mature into an unbeatable force, and open some holes for our running backs, and be able to protect our quarterbacks! I think our problems start up front. If our quarterbacks have time to throw they can complete a pass, but when they are always under the threat of a sack it is hard to develop any rhythm in the offense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,060 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I wish I had an answer for you! I promise, I won't say youth and inexperience. I am really tired of that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,135 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I wish I had an answer for you! I promise, I won't say youth and inexperience. I am really tired of that one! You may not, but there is "some" truth to this on the O line...we have true freshman out there playing. No excuse, just a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaric 4 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Even the most seasoned and talented OL units have bad games...when you have newbies out there that have bad games it just gets amplified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully to Beasley 643 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Unfortunately, they are all in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleCoTiger 1,957 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Two true freshman and a redshirt freshman starting in their first year don't have enough experience to be a "vaunted offensive line." They were vaunted (highly praised) recruits, but right now they're still in the process of growing up and coming together. Heck, we haven't even had the same group of freshman on the field on the OL every game. Against Arky, Patrick Miller was taken to school. The rest of the line for the most part didn't play badly...but Miller was beat like a drum and the QB suffered for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense(clap clap) 4 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Miller had a really bad game, but probably 3 of 4 of Frazier's sacks could have been avoided by him running or throwing the ball away. He just can't hold the ball for 10 seconds in the pocket and expect to not get sacked. And part of the issue with the run game was we kept getting penalties and moving us back to 1st and long or 2nd and long and getting us out of running situations. Penalties and sacks just killed us. Our rushing #'s were Blakely - 7 for 38 5.4 avg and of course the fumble Mason - 6 for 32 5.3 avg Omac - 7 for 24 3.4 avg and if they call that sweep to the short side of the field again and he loses yards, my head will explode Wallace - 2 for 11 5.5 avg Prosch - 1 for 3 without the sacks, our run game was 23 rushes for 108 yards averaging 4.7 ypc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-Jess 0 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Probably waiting on the National Offensive Player of the Year QB to start becoming as good as advertised.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,060 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Miller had a really bad game, but probably 3 of 4 of Frazier's sacks could have been avoided by him running or throwing the ball away. He just can't hold the ball for 10 seconds in the pocket and expect to not get sacked. And part of the issue with the run game was we kept getting penalties and moving us back to 1st and long or 2nd and long and getting us out of running situations. Penalties and sacks just killed us. Our rushing #'s were Blakely - 7 for 38 5.4 avg and of course the fumble Mason - 6 for 32 5.3 avg Omac - 7 for 24 3.4 avg and if they call that sweep to the short side of the field again and he loses yards, my head will explode Wallace - 2 for 11 5.5 avg Prosch - 1 for 3 without the sacks, our run game was 23 rushes for 108 yards averaging 4.7 ypc How many points did we score? How many sacks did we give up against LSU, compared to Arky? Is our QB and O-line progressing or degressing?We had two weeks to prepare for a home game against a complete idiot of a head coach and what was the result? It wasn't even close! Guy's please wake-up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaric 4 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Probably waiting on the National Offensive Player of the Year QB to start becoming as good as advertised.... Miller had a really bad game, but probably 3 of 4 of Frazier's sacks could have been avoided by him running or throwing the ball away. He just can't hold the ball for 10 seconds in the pocket and expect to not get sacked. And part of the issue with the run game was we kept getting penalties and moving us back to 1st and long or 2nd and long and getting us out of running situations. Penalties and sacks just killed us. Our rushing #'s were Blakely - 7 for 38 5.4 avg and of course the fumble Mason - 6 for 32 5.3 avg Omac - 7 for 24 3.4 avg and if they call that sweep to the short side of the field again and he loses yards, my head will explode Wallace - 2 for 11 5.5 avg Prosch - 1 for 3 without the sacks, our run game was 23 rushes for 108 yards averaging 4.7 ypc WarEagleExtra did a break down of the sacks. Majority were the lines fault, not the QB's...only 2 could really be pinned on Frazier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerVII 81 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 The offensive line woes go back to recruiting. Yes, we've signed good offensive line classes in 2010, 2011, and 2012. However, we only signed one offensive lineman in 2008 (and he did not qualify academically for admission.) In 2009, we signed only 3 offensive linemen, primarily because the coaching change disrupted the recruiting and the new coaches had approximately one month to assemble a signing class. None of the offensive linemen signed in 2009 were considered elite prospects. In 2010, we had the top OL signing class on signing day, but two of the signees were JUCO (one of which never really contributed and soon quit the team - the other started most of his games and expended his eligibility last year). None of the other 2010 signees have turned into elite linemen, hence we are playing true freshmen and redshirt freshmen on the offensive line. If we can hold them together, the offensive line should be pretty good in 2014. The moral of the story is that we cannot skip two years (2008-2009) without signing quality offensive linemen (or linebackers, for that matter). We're still digging out of the talent hole created in 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU-24 3,060 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I really do understand how empty the capnet was when CGC took over; really I get it! Then you recruit you go JR College players, you do whatever it takes to accomplish the mission! I am not talking about a BCS bowl every year but really guys, La Monroe in OT. Scoring 7 against Arky. The MSU debacle? (sp) Lets all wakeup!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wareaglexx 34 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Miller had a really bad game, but probably 3 of 4 of Frazier's sacks could have been avoided by him running or throwing the ball away. He just can't hold the ball for 10 seconds in the pocket and expect to not get sacked. And part of the issue with the run game was we kept getting penalties and moving us back to 1st and long or 2nd and long and getting us out of running situations. Penalties and sacks just killed us. Our rushing #'s were Blakely - 7 for 38 5.4 avg and of course the fumble Mason - 6 for 32 5.3 avg Omac - 7 for 24 3.4 avg and if they call that sweep to the short side of the field again and he loses yards, my head will explode Wallace - 2 for 11 5.5 avg Prosch - 1 for 3 without the sacks, our run game was 23 rushes for 108 yards averaging 4.7 ypc Still want to see Proch touch the ball more often. Would like to see what he could do with more carries... Dang that looks like it would hurt being on the other side of that Freight Train... Looked Good, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kd4au 1,145 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 I agree that we are very young in the OL.But you would think if these guys were as good as advertised we could block better than we do.I think most of the O problems start up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn4ever 1,266 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 What has happend to our offensive line coach. Jeff Grimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense(clap clap) 4 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Probably waiting on the National Offensive Player of the Year QB to start becoming as good as advertised.... Miller had a really bad game, but probably 3 of 4 of Frazier's sacks could have been avoided by him running or throwing the ball away. He just can't hold the ball for 10 seconds in the pocket and expect to not get sacked. And part of the issue with the run game was we kept getting penalties and moving us back to 1st and long or 2nd and long and getting us out of running situations. Penalties and sacks just killed us. Our rushing #'s were Blakely - 7 for 38 5.4 avg and of course the fumble Mason - 6 for 32 5.3 avg Omac - 7 for 24 3.4 avg and if they call that sweep to the short side of the field again and he loses yards, my head will explode Wallace - 2 for 11 5.5 avg Prosch - 1 for 3 without the sacks, our run game was 23 rushes for 108 yards averaging 4.7 ypc WarEagleExtra did a break down of the sacks. Majority were the lines fault, not the QB's...only 2 could really be pinned on Frazier. I read that and I'm not sure I totally agree. I rewatched the first half and Frazier just holds the ball too long. The OL didn't play great Saturday, there's no question there, but he's done that all year. He has got to get that presence where he either has to tuck it and run or throw the ball away or this kind of stuff will continue to happen. I don't care how good your OL is, if you hold the ball long enough, you're going to take a sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyeCampAlum 335 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 The OL truly is too young to have developed yet. I have high hopes there. I'd agree the OL can be blamed for the sacks -- but Frazier also has a tendency to panic. The line creates the problem, but he rarely gets rid of the ball when things are breaking down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn4ever 1,266 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Here we go again. We're "too young". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msg6367 1 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Miller had a really bad game, but probably 3 of 4 of Frazier's sacks could have been avoided by him running or throwing the ball away. He just can't hold the ball for 10 seconds in the pocket and expect to not get sacked. And part of the issue with the run game was we kept getting penalties and moving us back to 1st and long or 2nd and long and getting us out of running situations. Penalties and sacks just killed us. Our rushing #'s were Blakely - 7 for 38 5.4 avg and of course the fumble Mason - 6 for 32 5.3 avg Omac - 7 for 24 3.4 avg and if they call that sweep to the short side of the field again and he loses yards, my head will explode Wallace - 2 for 11 5.5 avg Prosch - 1 for 3 without the sacks, our run game was 23 rushes for 108 yards averaging 4.7 ypc Still want to see Proch touch the ball more often. Would like to see what he could do with more carries... Dang that looks like it would hurt being on the other side of that Freight Train... Looked Good, The biggest applause of the game came when Prosch was finally handed the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgufcm 3,984 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 a4e, you may not like it, but we are too young on the OL. Maybe that's the coaches fault for not having more players in the pipeline, but when your rotation is 3 Fr, 2 So, and 1 Sr (and the backups at every position except center are also Fr)... you're too damn young to have high hopes. You can have high hopes, it's just not going to go well for you. The OL had a rough game. It always happens for a Freshman once or twice. Same thing happened for Dismukes last year a time or two. They got their butts kicked (especially on the edge). I'm more interested in how/if they rebound from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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