Does It Bother Anybody That...

[dwatkins1959 0]

Does it bother anybody that before the season began that the coaching staff had a problem naming a starting QB and now prior to the Ole Miss game we are in the same spot as of Friday AM? It is beginning to look like the staff doesn't have a clue of what is wrong and how to fix it. The team seems to have no identity because the coaching staff seems to have no identity in the x's and o's department. I cannot get excited about tomorrows game because I don't see any team direction at this point. Are we in disarray because the coaching staff seems to be in disarray? It just gets harder to watch with every game.

[selias 2,398]

The phrase that comes to mind is, "Chinese fire drill"

[aucanucktiger 1,699]

Well according to this board back then KF being the starter was a foregone conclusion before the Spring game. For what that's worth. You throw out a ton of speculation '59 (e.g. no clue what's wrong, etc) and I don't know what you mean by "no identity in the x's and o's department." Guess I'll just give you a War Eagle.

[AUenginerd 13]

Yes, it bothers me. Being "multiple" seems to have turned out to having no idea what we are. Instead of using our strengths, we focus on the other team's weaknesses, especially last week. That didn't work out so well. Hopefully the coaches will magically do what we and they've also been talking about all week and RUN RUN RUN THE BALL! Mason and Blakely and PROSCH SMASH! It wouldn't hurt my feelings to see the OL's rotate in and out for series. Run blocking is easier than pass blocking, right? It just seems to me, and I'm by far no expert, that we stick with the "starters" because they know the scheme best or performed the best in practice. The problem is we leave them in for almost the whole game, and the back ups never develop. It leads us to having all this talent, according to recruiting services, that have no experience. We limp through a season like this, then repeat the next year with more inexperienced talent. This is the biggest reason I think other teams have guys step in and don't see quite the drop in performance as we do each year, or lack of development if you want to call it that. Either way, hopefully we are successful tomorrow and it leads the coaches to stick with what is working. WDE!

[AUenginerd 13]

I don't know what you mean by "no identity in the x's and o's department."

On offense, are we pro, spread, west coast, multiple? What would you describe us as? We force Frazier to play under center, don't let him run the ball, then pull him for Moseley, who immediately starts taking snaps in the shotgun. If you don't understand that we have ignored the run when it was working, and that our passing game is horrible since we are FORCING ourselves into it, then I don't know how else to explain it to you.

[AU-Jess 0]

Like my old ball coach used to say...

"I've been to 2 world fairs and a goat...."

Well, you know the rest.

[REInvestingTiger 2]

By itself, no I wouldn't give it much thought.

However, before the 2010 season, it was surprising to me to hear that CGC and CGM were into the 3rd or 4th game of the season still trying to understand what Cam could do. Shouldn't this have been determined in spring??? Certainly by early fall camp they should have realized that they had something very special. Going back through some of their comments, I honestly don't think they had a clue...which makes me think...hmmmmm.

Seems we keep seeing the inability to truly understand who can contribute, and what strengths do they have, and who should ride the bench with several positions over the duration of the CGC era. Why have KF throwing as much as he does, when we a) have pretty good running backs, and the coaches must have seen in practice that KF has trouble with his passing accuracy. Why are we 1-3 before KF starts looking at his dropback techniques?

Taken together, I think your question is actually "par for the course". It certainly does look like your "the staff doesn't have a clue of what is wrong and how to fix it" has credence.

[AUfanLCDR 0]

Your phrase, "because the coaching staff seems to be in disarray" may be the ultimate answer to most of this team's problems. They and the team have seemed lost for this entire year and most of last year's team. Confusion...disarray...lack of direction....this could go on. I still have hope only because I'm convinced that this team is talented. The coaching is what should start Leadership.

[AU-24 3,058]

Your phrase, "because the coaching staff seems to be in disarray" may be the ultimate answer to most of this team's problems. They and the team have seemed lost for this entire year and most of last year's team. Confusion...disarray...lack of direction....this could go on. I still have hope only because I'm convinced that this team is talented. The coaching is what should start Leadership.

Well said!

[AUIH1 1,515]

I think the staff knew going into 2011 that we were going to have problems at QB after spring practice (this is why our staff recruited Russell Wilson like madmen), but felt that KF was going to be the answer beginning in 2012. More evidence of this is the staff basically telling Trotter "thanks for playing, but we are set at QB in 2012". It is obvious based on KF's performance thus far that the coaches may have been a tad too optimistic regarding KF.

Now, I think the coaches are in a panic, "WTH do we do now" situation.

wde

[dwatkins1959 0]

Poet,

IMO, I don't see the offesive side of the ball as having an identity. At times it looks like something we did in sandlot football. We started the year w/ KF under center all the time and that didn't work. Against Arkansas, KF was in the shotgun some, under center some and in the pistol some. In each case it didn't look like the offense knew what to do. The same with Clint Mosley. KF wasn't working and in what comes off to me as despiration, in goes Clint. (I wasn't against the move at all, we needed to do something like this in some of the previous games). An identity identifies who you are and we don't know who we are. Is that inability to coach 'em up? Is that spread recruits running the "pro style" offense?

[selias 2,398]

http://iowastate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=889020

Gene Chizik was Plan B for Iowa State. While even that was too high considering the candidates interviewed, it's at least reassuring to know that someone better than him wanted the job in 2006 and was even offered the job, but just couldn't pull the trigger fast enough to take it. ISU settled for Chizik and got what it got. Even though he was packaged and sold as a rock star, he wasn't hired as one. The rock star got away, so Iowa State took the back-up singer. It's Auburn's problem now. While he has a better chance of winning in general there - because he'll have better players - he'll be up against it in a job where so much is riding on one rivalry game a year. Beating Alabama trumps all else at Auburn and Nick Saban will probably floss with Gene Chizik on an annual basis. It's a coaching mismatch of epic proportions. I mean, if Mike Sanford and Tom Amstutz and Doug Martin hand you your lunch with inferior talent, what's Saban going to do with superior talent? When the clock ticks down to 0:00 on future Iron Bowls, there will be nothing left to do but I.D. the Auburn bodies.

Good luck, Auburn, you'll need it.

[StatTiger 3,146]

No

[bamerslayer 0]

No

I agree with this statement.

[dcafd4au 0]

Does it bother anybody that before the season began that the coaching staff had a problem naming a starting QB and now prior to the Ole Miss game we are in the same spot as of Friday AM? It is beginning to look like the staff doesn't have a clue of what is wrong and how to fix it. The team seems to have no identity because the coaching staff seems to have no identity in the x's and o's department. I cannot get excited about tomorrows game because I don't see any team direction at this point. Are we in disarray because the coaching staff seems to be in disarray? It just gets harder to watch with every game.

Isnt it just as possible that the reason that neither QB could seperate and take the position in fall is because neither of our QB's are exceptional at anything? Seems like a solid decision by the coaching staff not to toss the keys to KF until they had to seeming as how they got all of fall practice to see the mediocrity and poor decision making. Clint will be fine (cant be much worse) and if we can play solid D and establish the run to avoid too many 3rd and longs-we will be in it at the end like most of the games this year.

[AuburnGrad97 37]

Does it bother anybody that before the season began that the coaching staff had a problem naming a starting QB and now prior to the Ole Miss game we are in the same spot as of Friday AM? It is beginning to look like the staff doesn't have a clue of what is wrong and how to fix it. The team seems to have no identity because the coaching staff seems to have no identity in the x's and o's department. I cannot get excited about tomorrows game because I don't see any team direction at this point. Are we in disarray because the coaching staff seems to be in disarray? It just gets harder to watch with every game.

Isnt it just as possible that the reason that neither QB could seperate and take the position in fall is because neither of our QB's are exceptional at anything? Seems like a solid decision by the coaching staff not to toss the keys to KF until they had to seeming as how they got all of fall practice to see the mediocrity and poor decision making. Clint will be fine (cant be much worse) and if we can play solid D and establish the run to avoid too many 3rd and longs-we will be in it at the end like most of the games this year.

This would be a great post if we were going into the LSU, UGA or bammer game, but we are going into the Ole Miss game. It makes me sick to hope to "be in it at the end" against Ole Miss, just like it was against ULM, and a horrible Arky team. Not bashing you, only the state of our program where we hope to hang in there with Ole Miss!!!

[AuburnSpider 2]

By itself, no I wouldn't give it much thought.

However, before the 2010 season, it was surprising to me to hear that CGC and CGM were into the 3rd or 4th game of the season still trying to understand what Cam could do. Shouldn't this have been determined in spring??? Certainly by early fall camp they should have realized that they had something very special. Going back through some of their comments, I honestly don't think they had a clue...which makes me think...hmmmmm.

Seems we keep seeing the inability to truly understand who can contribute, and what strengths do they have, and who should ride the bench with several positions over the duration of the CGC era. Why have KF throwing as much as he does, when we a) have pretty good running backs, and the coaches must have seen in practice that KF has trouble with his passing accuracy. Why are we 1-3 before KF starts looking at his dropback techniques?

Taken together, I think your question is actually "par for the course". It certainly does look like your "the staff doesn't have a clue of what is wrong and how to fix it" has credence.

BINGO THAT WAS A GOODY, NAIL MEET HEAD, THANK YOU. I was wondering if I was alone with this thought process.

[auburn4ever 1,266]

That same problem also happend in 2011.

[oracle79 3,569]

The phrase that comes to mind is, "Chinese fire drill"

I've also heard a similar phrase about 11 monkeys try'in to do something to a football. Both are accurate, especially on offense.

[augolf1716 20,195]

who knows?

[AU64 10,122]

Everyone....and I mean everyone just knew back in August that KF was the man to lead this team to glory. He had the HS stats and had spent a year getting accustomed to big time football. Even the coacing staff thought he would be the man...and so they let Trotter go.... even after he bailed out the Tigers against Virginia in the bowl game.

Now them chickens have come home to roost....and things haven't worked out like the coaches thought. That's not the first time that a college coach has misjudged his QB's talent....or the QB's ability to take that big step from HS into the SEC...or some other conference. It happens all the time and the schools where it happens usually pay a big price for that misfortune. .....like AU is doing.

Not sure that I blame anyone for KF's failure to mature "on schedule"...just one of those things...but it sure is a shame that we had annointed KF before he had actually showed the ability to run the team....and had no really good plan B. Most likely Plan B is trying to play TE somewhere up in Kentucky and they hate to put the entire game plan in the hands of a true freshman.

Maybe AU will be good in 2013...but for certain we need something good to happen at QB and if I were Chiz, I would not be betting my job on KF or that JW will be able to lead the team to an SEC championship. He made that mistake this year....and I would expect to see a JUCO or transfer running the show next season.

[Raven_tiger 5]

How difficult can it be to find a ah to hand the ball off??? Are we not suppose to be focusing on the running game? Can't Wallace hand the ball off?

[Richard78 73]

It just seems incredible that going into the sixth game our coaches don't know what our offensive identity should be. Let's see. We have RBs who have shown they can average over 5 ypc even behind an inconsistent OL and maybe the best blocking FB in the country. Maybe we should run it more. Just a thought.

[FearTheTigers 0]

Loeffler and his Multiple Sets = Jack of All Trades and Master of None

He doesn't seem to know the strengths of his personnel yet. Not impressive at all.