This will be unpopular to some

[dans4au 1]

The following is the opinion of an Auburn Tiger fan of 45 plus years. My opinion may not jive with others who have a fire the coach attitude, but here it goes.

As a former coach myself (high school boys & girls basketball and summer travel softball), I can tell you without question, any team I was ever associated with as a coach, was only as good as the players playing the game. I have questioned the coaches just like the majority of fans, but todays loss to Ole Miss was not about coaching. Todays loss falls solely and squarely on the players. The gameplan today was simple, run and throw short high percentage passes. I think everything was in place for the Tigers to get their first SEC win of the year, but something happened along the way.

It wasn't the coaching, it was the players not making plays. From the center snapping the ball over the QBs head to the QB not catching the bad snap to player who lined up offsides on the punt to the piss poor tackle that wasn't to the QB hitting the Ole Miss LB between the numbers, it all adds up to a road loss.

One other thing I saw today that I really wish the coaches would put a stop to. The freaking Superman pose after a good play. I loathe that. #56 did it after sacking the QB. Two or three plays later, he kinda, sorta, almost tackled the Ole Miss RB, but wait he is not down and he runs for a TD. Why didn't he jump up and do the freaking Superman that time.

Well, those are my thoughts anyway. WDE

[metafour 4,907]

I dont even.........

[UAH Tiger 0]

The following is the opinion of an Auburn Tiger fan of 45 plus years. My opinion may not jive with others who have a fire the coach attitude, but here it goes.

As a former coach myself (high school boys & girls basketball and summer travel softball), I can tell you without question, any team I was ever associated with as a coach, was only as good as the players playing the game. I have questioned the coaches just like the majority of fans, but todays loss to Ole Miss was not about coaching. Todays loss falls solely and squarely on the players. The gameplan today was simple, run and throw short high percentage passes. I think everything was in place for the Tigers to get their first SEC win of the year, but something happened along the way.

It wasn't the coaching, it was the players not making plays. From the center snapping the ball over the QBs head to the QB not catching the bad snap to player who lined up offsides on the punt to the piss poor tackle that wasn't to the QB hitting the Ole Miss LB between the numbers, it all adds up to a road loss.

One other thing I saw today that I really wish the coaches would put a stop to. The freaking Superman pose after a good play. I loathe that. #56 did it after sacking the QB. Two or three plays later, he kinda, sorta, almost tackled the Ole Miss RB, but wait he is not down and he runs for a TD. Why didn't he jump up and do the freaking Superman that time.

Well, those are my thoughts anyway. WDE

I would go for shared blame at most. Isn't it the job of the coaches to make sure that team can do the fundamentals correctly or at least be position to execute on the play? I can't believe we are lining up correctly in practice and forgetting how to line up in a game. That is just coaching or lack focused coaching.

I thought the game plan started out pretty good but the coaches didn't make any second half adjustments to get the team back on track. When have you seen a coach get in a qb's face and tell them to settle down and focus on the task at hand. Honestly sometimes it looks like our coaches are lost out there half the time. Did you watch the USC v LSU game tonight? That was some good coaching and adjustments by both sides in that game.

[dans4au 1]

The following is the opinion of an Auburn Tiger fan of 45 plus years. My opinion may not jive with others who have a fire the coach attitude, but here it goes.

As a former coach myself (high school boys & girls basketball and summer travel softball), I can tell you without question, any team I was ever associated with as a coach, was only as good as the players playing the game. I have questioned the coaches just like the majority of fans, but todays loss to Ole Miss was not about coaching. Todays loss falls solely and squarely on the players. The gameplan today was simple, run and throw short high percentage passes. I think everything was in place for the Tigers to get their first SEC win of the year, but something happened along the way.

It wasn't the coaching, it was the players not making plays. From the center snapping the ball over the QBs head to the QB not catching the bad snap to player who lined up offsides on the punt to the piss poor tackle that wasn't to the QB hitting the Ole Miss LB between the numbers, it all adds up to a road loss.

One other thing I saw today that I really wish the coaches would put a stop to. The freaking Superman pose after a good play. I loathe that. #56 did it after sacking the QB. Two or three plays later, he kinda, sorta, almost tackled the Ole Miss RB, but wait he is not down and he runs for a TD. Why didn't he jump up and do the freaking Superman that time.

Well, those are my thoughts anyway. WDE

I would go for shared blame at most. Isn't it the job of the coaches to make sure that team can do the fundamentals correctly or at least be position to execute on the play? I can't believe we are lining up correctly in practice and forgetting how to line up in a game. That is just coaching or lack focused coaching.

I thought the game plan started out pretty good but the coaches didn't make any second half adjustments to get the team back on track. When have you seen a coach get in a qb's face and tell them to settle down and focus on the task at hand. Honestly sometimes it looks like our coaches are lost out there half the time. Did you watch the USC v LSU game tonight? That was some good coaching and adjustments by both sides in that game.

UAH, I did watch that game and they did make some great halftime adjustments. I happen to think that players were in position to make plays, they just didn't. That was my point. Do I think the coaching was perfect? No. There is definitely room for improvment there. As for the lining up offsides, the special teams have been one of the few consistent bright spots, so I will give them a pass on that transgression. The bottom line is that we still got the ball and couldn't do a thing with it. We had a chance to get the ball back with over five minutes to go only trailing by 7, but instead we don't tackle til the whistle, we give up an ESPN top play for the second time this year and we are trailing by 14. Good teams find a way to win. Bad teams find a way to lose.

One thing I meant to add in the original post. I hope AU is recruiting the top high school and Jr college QBs in the country that can run this system. We do not have one QB between the two that have started.

WDE

[Friedchickenman 0]

That's all nice and good, except for the fact that the coaches are the ones that recruited and developed these kids to play like this. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to look around and see that the teams with good coaches have good teams, teams with elite coaches, have elite teams, teams with average coaches, have average teams. The problem I have with the coaching right now, is that usually when your team starts out the year with a lot of young guys, they begin to play better throughout the year and will have much more improvement then say a team full of veterans. Right now, I'm not seeing any improvement. Against LSU special teams took a step back, Last week against Arkansas the offense took 2 steps back, this week against Ole Miss the defense took 2 steps back. I commented earlier in the week on how the players and coaches seemed to be more focused on talking in press conferences then spending time on the practice field fixing problems. I think it showed this Saturday, the coaching being done on the Plains this year is one of the worst coaching jobs I've seen in a long time.

[UAH Tiger 0]

The following is the opinion of an Auburn Tiger fan of 45 plus years. My opinion may not jive with others who have a fire the coach attitude, but here it goes.

As a former coach myself (high school boys & girls basketball and summer travel softball), I can tell you without question, any team I was ever associated with as a coach, was only as good as the players playing the game. I have questioned the coaches just like the majority of fans, but todays loss to Ole Miss was not about coaching. Todays loss falls solely and squarely on the players. The gameplan today was simple, run and throw short high percentage passes. I think everything was in place for the Tigers to get their first SEC win of the year, but something happened along the way.

It wasn't the coaching, it was the players not making plays. From the center snapping the ball over the QBs head to the QB not catching the bad snap to player who lined up offsides on the punt to the piss poor tackle that wasn't to the QB hitting the Ole Miss LB between the numbers, it all adds up to a road loss.

One other thing I saw today that I really wish the coaches would put a stop to. The freaking Superman pose after a good play. I loathe that. #56 did it after sacking the QB. Two or three plays later, he kinda, sorta, almost tackled the Ole Miss RB, but wait he is not down and he runs for a TD. Why didn't he jump up and do the freaking Superman that time.

Well, those are my thoughts anyway. WDE

I would go for shared blame at most. Isn't it the job of the coaches to make sure that team can do the fundamentals correctly or at least be position to execute on the play? I can't believe we are lining up correctly in practice and forgetting how to line up in a game. That is just coaching or lack focused coaching.

I thought the game plan started out pretty good but the coaches didn't make any second half adjustments to get the team back on track. When have you seen a coach get in a qb's face and tell them to settle down and focus on the task at hand. Honestly sometimes it looks like our coaches are lost out there half the time. Did you watch the USC v LSU game tonight? That was some good coaching and adjustments by both sides in that game.

UAH, I did watch that game and they did make some great halftime adjustments. I happen to think that players were in position to make plays, they just didn't. That was my point. Do I think the coaching was perfect? No. There is definitely room for improvment there. As for the lining up offsides, the special teams have been one of the few consistent bright spots, so I will give them a pass on that transgression. The bottom line is that we still got the ball and couldn't do a thing with it. We had a chance to get the ball back with over five minutes to go only trailing by 7, but instead we don't tackle til the whistle, we give up an ESPN top play for the second time this year and we are trailing by 14. Good teams find a way to win. Bad teams find a way to lose.

One thing I meant to add in the original post. I hope AU is recruiting the top high school and Jr college QBs in the country that can run this system. We do not have one QB between the two that have started.

WDE

Why are we running a system that we don't have the personnel for? That is just plain stupid and is on the coaching staff. I can see transistioning to a Pro set offense but run the spread the majority of the time until you can get some Pro set players in house.

I still disagree on the coaching and don't understand why we aren't practising for how teams are going to defend us at practice during the week. We should double teaming Lutz and Blake all week in practice. It will help the qb's find other targets and help those two work on getting away from the double coverage. Quit going for the long shot down the field and work on short passes to move the chains. Keep drives going and put some points on the board.

[milehighfan 1,211]

There is plenty of blame to go around this train- wreck of a team

[Abbygpaw 32]

Being in position to make a play and actually making the play are very different. The players certainly have the physical ability to make plays, but across the board they are not doing it. IMO that is a coaching issue.

If you recruit 5* players, you better have 5* coaches or the players will not respond. Thus, our current situation.

[TitanTiger 18,915]

The following is the opinion of an Auburn Tiger fan of 45 plus years. My opinion may not jive with others who have a fire the coach attitude, but here it goes.

As a former coach myself (high school boys & girls basketball and summer travel softball), I can tell you without question, any team I was ever associated with as a coach, was only as good as the players playing the game. I have questioned the coaches just like the majority of fans, but todays loss to Ole Miss was not about coaching. Todays loss falls solely and squarely on the players. The gameplan today was simple, run and throw short high percentage passes. I think everything was in place for the Tigers to get their first SEC win of the year, but something happened along the way.

It wasn't the coaching, it was the players not making plays. From the center snapping the ball over the QBs head to the QB not catching the bad snap to player who lined up offsides on the punt to the piss poor tackle that wasn't to the QB hitting the Ole Miss LB between the numbers, it all adds up to a road loss.

One other thing I saw today that I really wish the coaches would put a stop to. The freaking Superman pose after a good play. I loathe that. #56 did it after sacking the QB. Two or three plays later, he kinda, sorta, almost tackled the Ole Miss RB, but wait he is not down and he runs for a TD. Why didn't he jump up and do the freaking Superman that time.

Well, those are my thoughts anyway. WDE

Then these coaches are the most terrible evaluators of talent ever. Or somehow, Auburn managed to only grab the recruits that every ratings service thought were awesome but were really subpar. Because with 3 straight top 5 or top 10 recruiting classes, it ain't about the players. It's about not developing the players you get.

[TitanTiger 18,915]

Why are we running a system that we don't have the personnel for? That is just plain stupid and is on the coaching staff. I can see transistioning to a Pro set offense but run the spread the majority of the time until you can get some Pro set players in house.

When we brought in Malzahn we really didn't have the players to run his system either. A half year of Tony Franklin hadn't stocked us full of spread type players. You have to make transitions sometimes and the initial break-in period can be tough. But if we went by your idea, you could never change offenses.

I still disagree on the coaching and don't understand why we aren't practising for how teams are going to defend us at practice during the week. We should double teaming Lutz and Blake all week in practice. It will help the qb's find other targets and help those two work on getting away from the double coverage.

With all due respect, how on earth can you disagree with something you've never observed? Have you been watching practices in secret to know we don't double team Lutz and Blake to simulate the defense we'll go against?

[UAH Tiger 0]

Why are we running a system that we don't have the personnel for? That is just plain stupid and is on the coaching staff. I can see transistioning to a Pro set offense but run the spread the majority of the time until you can get some Pro set players in house.

When we brought in Malzahn we really didn't have the players to run his system either. A half year of Tony Franklin hadn't stocked us full of spread type players. You have to make transitions sometimes and the initial break-in period can be tough. But if we went by your idea, you could never change offenses.

I wasn't saying we shouldn't change offenses all I was saying is we should be changing back to a pro set slower. There are a lot of things I don't like about the spread, so I am not one of those that is against the change.

I still disagree on the coaching and don't understand why we aren't practising for how teams are going to defend us at practice during the week. We should double teaming Lutz and Blake all week in practice. It will help the qb's find other targets and help those two work on getting away from the double coverage.

With all due respect, how on earth can you disagree with something you've never observed? Have you been watching practices in secret to know we don't double team Lutz and Blake to simulate the defense we'll go against?

You can see it in the product we put on the field. Basically one qb has stared down Blake or Lutz all season waiting for them to get open. Also, the qb admitted he hasn't worked much with other recievers since the spring. That alone tells me that those two guys are not doubled teamed at practice.

[aubaseball 2,417]

What are pro style players? we have one of the biggest O-Lines, Big Ten Fullback, SEC tight end. Our running backs are adequate size. What do you want our players to look like?

[TitanTiger 18,915]

Why are we running a system that we don't have the personnel for? That is just plain stupid and is on the coaching staff. I can see transistioning to a Pro set offense but run the spread the majority of the time until you can get some Pro set players in house.

When we brought in Malzahn we really didn't have the players to run his system either. A half year of Tony Franklin hadn't stocked us full of spread type players. You have to make transitions sometimes and the initial break-in period can be tough. But if we went by your idea, you could never change offenses.

I wasn't saying we shouldn't change offenses all I was saying is we should be changing back to a pro set slower. There are a lot of things I don't like about the spread, so I am not one of those that is against the change.

I still disagree on the coaching and don't understand why we aren't practising for how teams are going to defend us at practice during the week. We should double teaming Lutz and Blake all week in practice. It will help the qb's find other targets and help those two work on getting away from the double coverage.

With all due respect, how on earth can you disagree with something you've never observed? Have you been watching practices in secret to know we don't double team Lutz and Blake to simulate the defense we'll go against?

You can see it in the product we put on the field. Basically one qb has stared down Blake or Lutz all season waiting for them to get open. Also, the qb admitted he hasn't worked much with other recievers since the spring. That alone tells me that those two guys are not doubled teamed at practice.

I don't recall that admission. Got a link?

Also, it could be that we do double team them frequently but that they are still able to get open against our secondary. Truth is, you have no idea, you're just speculating.

[AU-24 3,060]

The following is the opinion of an Auburn Tiger fan of 45 plus years. My opinion may not jive with others who have a fire the coach attitude, but here it goes.

As a former coach myself (high school boys & girls basketball and summer travel softball), I can tell you without question, any team I was ever associated with as a coach, was only as good as the players playing the game. I have questioned the coaches just like the majority of fans, but todays loss to Ole Miss was not about coaching. Todays loss falls solely and squarely on the players. The gameplan today was simple, run and throw short high percentage passes. I think everything was in place for the Tigers to get their first SEC win of the year, but something happened along the way.

It wasn't the coaching, it was the players not making plays. From the center snapping the ball over the QBs head to the QB not catching the bad snap to player who lined up offsides on the punt to the piss poor tackle that wasn't to the QB hitting the Ole Miss LB between the numbers, it all adds up to a road loss.

One other thing I saw today that I really wish the coaches would put a stop to. The freaking Superman pose after a good play. I loathe that. #56 did it after sacking the QB. Two or three plays later, he kinda, sorta, almost tackled the Ole Miss RB, but wait he is not down and he runs for a TD. Why didn't he jump up and do the freaking Superman that time.

Well, those are my thoughts anyway. WDE

Sorry, but obviously you do not understand adult leadership.

[UAH Tiger 0]

"I don't recall that admission. Got a link?

Also, it could be that we do double team them frequently but that they are still able to get open against our secondary. Truth is, you have no idea, you're just speculating."

That admission was made by KF the week Quan Bray was suspended. I saw it posted here on AUF.

I agree that I do not get to watch practice, but I do understand what it takes to play a sport on a national level and this team is not prepared to play on that level. The old saying you play like you practice comes to mind.

[TheBlueVue 177]

This dumpster fire has just about burned itself out. Can we just fast forward to next year?

[AUGradinTX 0]

We have talent all over the place. The coaches are in charge of coaching them so that they get better as well as preparing them mentally. If the kids just aren't that talented, it is once again on the coaches to recruit better. Either way, the buck stops at the same place.

[NoALtiger 3,674]

Talent or no talent. Developing players or not developing players. It is subjective at best, but the fact remains that with a season like this someone has to answer and that generally begins with the guy who draws the big check. He may survive but somebody has to be "that guy". I doubt the status quo remains the same. Changes of some sort will come in my opinion.

[dans4au 1]

The following is the opinion of an Auburn Tiger fan of 45 plus years. My opinion may not jive with others who have a fire the coach attitude, but here it goes.

As a former coach myself (high school boys & girls basketball and summer travel softball), I can tell you without question, any team I was ever associated with as a coach, was only as good as the players playing the game. I have questioned the coaches just like the majority of fans, but todays loss to Ole Miss was not about coaching. Todays loss falls solely and squarely on the players. The gameplan today was simple, run and throw short high percentage passes. I think everything was in place for the Tigers to get their first SEC win of the year, but something happened along the way.

It wasn't the coaching, it was the players not making plays. From the center snapping the ball over the QBs head to the QB not catching the bad snap to player who lined up offsides on the punt to the piss poor tackle that wasn't to the QB hitting the Ole Miss LB between the numbers, it all adds up to a road loss.

One other thing I saw today that I really wish the coaches would put a stop to. The freaking Superman pose after a good play. I loathe that. #56 did it after sacking the QB. Two or three plays later, he kinda, sorta, almost tackled the Ole Miss RB, but wait he is not down and he runs for a TD. Why didn't he jump up and do the freaking Superman that time.

Well, those are my thoughts anyway. WDE

Sorry, but obviously you do not understand adult leadership.

Well shoot, I guess because you said it on a forum, it must be true. I don't know how we won some many games over the years since I don't understand tht adult leadership thing. Shoot, again

WDE